Q:Can I use free Wallpaper from the prestigious Web-site to create my Bootskin, - ???

and specifically here:

Sunday, September 13, 2009 by borsovborsov | Discussion: Permissions

 Q:Can I use free Wallpaper from the prestigious Web-site to create my Bootskin, and specifically here:

http://www.ewallpapers.eu/3D/Abstract/ ??

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 If you can, preferably reasoned response moderators ...

 And in any case: - a Web-site, credible to use his drawings - moderators can recommend?

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Nimbin
Reply #1 Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:56 AM

You will  need the permission of the person who created the wallpaper before you can upload it here. If you contact that person and get permission include the permission text file in the wallpaper zip. Uploading without permission is not allowed here . Good luck and i look forward to seeing your work.

borsovborsov
Reply #2 Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:02 AM

Nimbin-Thanks...  but how to find out the author's ....?

and why some works enough links and gratitude ...?

For example: >

https://www.wincustomize.com/skins ??

Especially if the work is laid out on the first link (* Added on 10/5/200). These wallpapers, during this time can be (ideliberately or inadvertently), could be used by users as they wish (*-author work in that time - claims to the Web-site not show (Yes, and I think: Prestige Web-site, everything else, is the primary agreement to use the author's work )

Bichur
Reply #3 Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:25 AM

every one I looked at said:

 

License: Free for personal desktop use only.

 

Bichur
Reply #4 Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:29 AM

what you just posted: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=25236&libid=13

is a screenshot

 

 

Show off your favorite desktop configuration by uploading a screenshot of your desktop!


not the same as uploading for other to use (except for concept ideas)


everything rayman48 put in the decription is to tell you what is on his desktop

you can't download it and make the wb, objectdock, etc work = it's just a picture of a desktop
borsovborsov
Reply #5 Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:38 AM

Bichur Thank you!! - This answer(Reply #3) is right on the case! - I would think

Re:Reply #4: > But at wincustomize.com there is a same loading of this image (screenshot) - means, what it uses not only rayman48, (*, the Website deals with its reproduction, thus my case is worse than previous?

 And second, I'm not rewriting this image, no more than rayman48 > http://s39.radikal.ru/i085/0909/48/05048a527ca7.jpg

 While I understand that the conversation is now bogged down in technological details, (I think today has enough

Jafo
Reply #6 Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:33 AM

A wallpaper is not the same thing as a screenshot.

A screenshot is a desktop 'capture' that is intended to show not just the wallpaper used but also the various icons, taskbars and other GUI features/programs.

Uploading another person's wallpaper is not permitted, however if it is uploaded as part of the desktop screenshot as long as it is reasonably obscured by those icons, etc of the 'typical screenshot' then it [the wall] cannot be easily extracted and reused as a wall and thus is considered 'fair use' rather than 'redistribution'....

borsovborsov
Reply #7 Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:55 AM

Jafo -Thank you! -  So, - I can from this screenshot https://www.wincustomize.com/skins create your own BootSkin or no??

(* Example use in a reply #5

 

Bichur
Reply #8 Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:51 PM

you can create your own bootskin for personal use - but you can't upload it for others to use

 

Uploading another person's wallpaper is not permitted, however it's okay if it is uploaded as part of the desktop screenshot and as long as it is reasonably obscured (covered up) by those icons, etc of the 'typical screenshot' because then it [the wall] cannot be easily extracted and reused as a wall and thus is considered 'fair use' rather than 'redistribution'....

 

wallpapers on screenshots are okay if enough of the wall is covered up so people can't crop out the wall to use

 

not the same as uploading a wallpaper as a wallpaper

not the same as using a wallpaper as a bootskin or logon - other people can use the bootskin or logon if uploaded

 

 

CarGuy1
Reply #9 Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:38 PM

Here's my understanding of what borsovborsov is asking. I believe they would like to turn the screenshot (not the wallpaper) into a bootskin and upload it. The image is this one... http://s39.radikal.ru/i085/0909/48/05048a527ca7.jpg

Since this is not the wallpaper and the wall is obscured in the screenshot, I'm not really sure how this would be called and would be a question for Jafo.

In my opinion, technically it may be permissible but the quality would be too low to make it into the gallery.

 

Bichur
Reply #10 Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:38 PM

I'm ;thinking technically no

the screenshot is just that a screen shot

 

using that screenshot is in effect using that wall for a bootskin which can be used by others

 

the first specific quiestion was the wall itself

the 2nd was the screenshot of the same wall into a bootskin - which I'm guessing would also involve removing the extraneous and leaving the cab

Jafo
Reply #11 Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:07 PM

What you are asking is a rare/odd question.

My view would be it would be at least preferable that you sought/obtained permission for the use of the wall that would be 'mostly' visible in the bootskin.

Because you are wanting to create a bootskin file which itself is intended for re-use by others as a download it is still thus going to be redistribution and would require consent for that which is not originally yours....

borsovborsov
Reply #12 Monday, September 14, 2009 1:06 AM

Jafo, Bichur

And yet, I want to put the question somewhat differently:

  If wincustomize.com allows users to download the image https://www.wincustomize.com/skins , then why not allow me to allow users to download (almost the same image http://s39.radikal.ru/i085/0909/48/05048a527ca7.jpg) through my BootSkin ...?(* The second link: Screenshot already made Bootskin

 

And afterwards: Use drawing from Bootskin 16 colours and size 640х480  any other purpose is practically impossible, (*, representing the volume of data less than 3% of the original image, (*I think - there is a rule: less than 5% of the image can be used officially, - For avatars we almost all use, and there permission sometimes higher than in the Bootskin XP

 

 And question number 3: Do you know any services that enable discovers: Who is the author drawing (* And how to contact them)...?

(And perhaps who knows specifically about this picture

Bichur
Reply #13 Monday, September 14, 2009 4:18 AM

If wincustomize.com allows users to download the image, then why not allow me to allow users to download (almost the same image  through my BootSkin ...?

 

the license says free personal for desktop use

the screenshot was a picture of personal desktop use

 

 

borsovborsov
Reply #14 Monday, September 14, 2009 4:49 AM

 Bichur, I already thanked you for this consideration(and it is clear to me), but then downloaded from this site, not on one computer, but a few ... (hence the license is not respected?? -since permits to use these wallpaper(*for a site: wincustomize.com) for issue to outside party I have not seen (This compared with a license to Wallpapers...)

the license says free personal for desktop use

the screenshot was a picture of personal desktop use

 Yes, and where you can see the position of the license about the image on our website and where to see it: With this license, associated with this screenshot?


And than loading Bootskin differs from Loading this Skreenshot:  One skin goes on one computer (we now assume that I use is not the wall but this screenshot, in principle, just and true) Button "Download" is on this image;

Button;

 

  ....I give birth too heavy offers....

Bichur
Reply #15 Monday, September 14, 2009 6:08 AM

Button "Download" is on this image;

 it doesn't really download, it just shows full view

it counts how many full view using the button

it doesn't count if your right click on the smaller picture and open in a new tab

Bichur
Reply #16 Monday, September 14, 2009 6:12 AM

Yes, and where you can see the position of the license about the image on our website and where to see it: With this license, associated with this screenshot?

 

you don't need a license to show someone what your desktop looks like

 

it was not uploaded here to be used for anything but a simple "here's what my desktop looks like"

 

 

borsovborsov
Reply #17 Monday, September 14, 2009 7:57 AM

Bichur I chose the picture with the smallest Number of downloads (in this case -14), and I myself have uploaded this image in the same way.

 Then, you tell me the truth, what I've heard several times, I wonder where that setting, and why they do not change, according to the above cited reason, namely:

 Image installed through bootskin is no more information about the picture than your Avatar,So whether or not to bring such high requirements for permits for Bootskin XP(* the more the market share of HP quickly decreases

 PS: Specifically, none of the questions "why" is not given an answer interesting, clever away from sensitive issues, and everything was sending to the standard rules ... (Although I understand you ... himself as a moderator of a few years ...

 

 All the best everyone!  Thanks for the conversation! Аrivederchi

Bichur
Reply #18 Monday, September 14, 2009 4:05 PM

Image installed through bootskin is no more information about the picture than your Avatar,So whether or not to bring such high requirements for permits for Bootskin XP(* the more the market share of HP quickly decreases

 

My Avatar is mine. I created it using a digital camera and graphics programs. 

Only those avatars uploaded for general use can be used by the general public.

https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?libid=59

 

Technically, all those should have been created by the uploader

 

PS: Specifically, none of the questions "why" is not given an answer interesting, clever away from sensitive issues, and everything was sending to the standard rules ... (Although I understand you ... himself as a moderator of a few years ...

 

the answers to why have to do with allowing freedom of creation yet protect the rights of the original creator.

 

 

 

borsovborsov
Reply #19 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:43 AM

Bichur  * Sorry!, - With your, specific Avatar-I hastened to the statement, but the avatars are used and other people ...

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the answers to why have to do with allowing freedom of creation yet protect the rights of the original creator.

[1] the answers to  the Question: Why does one person Web-site "wincustomize.com" allows an image to use and free to download other users, the other person do not,  with the image the same, downloaded immediately from the site,  (*Ie Web-site to replicate the image already has and uses it)

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And question number 2: " Is it necessary, (* according to international standards), confirming the copyright for the image if it is used in the Bootskin XP?

I will explain:

 The original image has a size of not less than: 1024х768х24bit= 2.25MB(in format Bmp),

 The same image in Bootskin XP already has the size: 640х480х4bit =150KB (in format Bmp)

 Conclusions:

Ie the secondary image uses less than 5% of the original data, that under international law be permitted without the requirement of copyright

(* In fact, it stretched Avatar, and the avatars do not require confirmation

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 And third, why in this Web-site does not create your library of images available for beginners? -( not only for Bootskin);

And if some Internet services allow to find the author (Search: like the image) on the original image ...?

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 Fourthly: "Who could specify: International regulations for the use of screenshots

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Bichur
Reply #20 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:42 AM

 

so many questions

different yet the same

 

yet the most important one, not yet asked

 

 

Q - Who decides the rules for Wincustomize?

A - Wincustomize.

 

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