Q:Can I use free Wallpaper from the prestigious Web-site to create my Bootskin, - ???

and specifically here:

Sunday, September 13, 2009 by borsovborsov | Discussion: Permissions

 Q:Can I use free Wallpaper from the prestigious Web-site to create my Bootskin, and specifically here:

http://www.ewallpapers.eu/3D/Abstract/ ??

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 If you can, preferably reasoned response moderators ...

 And in any case: - a Web-site, credible to use his drawings - moderators can recommend?

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jimehc1
Reply #21 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:46 AM

In my opinion, any image you freely upload to the web is fair game the day it was posted to the web.. Because at that point it became freely available to any and all users..

As far as using the images to make logons or bootskins go right ahead.. Even thou it makes a good screen for your uses, forget about sharing it with others here, they will figure it out themselves..

And I will add this comment - I have found many images here that have been downloaded from other websites and used here..

The author gave up that copyright when they made the image freely available to the general public, most copyrighted material requires are purchase, thus you are purchasing a license for personsonal use.. (Which is a differant matter - because if you distribute that material, then you are in violation of the copyright.)

This site is all personal use images and such..

Microsoft, Vista, Windows 7, Intel, Firefox and all the likes are copyrighted Names.. You do not actually have the right to use any of them.. But there are thousands of images posted here that use those copyrighted names and images.

So to answer the orginal question, YES you can use the image you downloaded from ewallpaper and make your bootskin or logon.. And don't bother uploading it here..

Pamala Anderson and Tommy lee, Paris Hilton all star in on internet film, although the appear in the films, there is no copyright..

jimehc1
Reply #22 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:07 AM

Q - Who decides the rules for Wincustomize?

A - Wincustomize.

This answer has nothing to do with copyright or any copyright laws or protections there of.. This is the only stated true to the matter here!!

This is a public forum, with images and the like uploaded by the users - the only legal responsibility of this forum would be to remove the work if contacted by the copyright or license holder

borsovborsov
Reply #23 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:36 AM

This is a public forum, with images and the like uploaded by the users - the only legal responsibility of this forum would be to remove the work if contacted by the copyright or license holder
jimehc -Bravo!-

But in fact correct: there is any web-site insure themselves against excessive claims, but rules must be clear and consistent with the surrounding international standards - and explaining: why and why, No excess of unnecessary load on the search for permit,

- Therefore, questions arise -

 Even in the international photojournalism 5% Volume! duplication of the original work is considered acceptable

 

Bichur - - Forgive us, you are very responsive, so you are suffering,  (*although there is hope, you, as an old resident of the site, and possibly talk to admins about our needs when the opportunity

Jafo
Reply #24 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:04 AM

In my opinion, any image you freely upload to the web is fair game the day it was posted to the web.. Because at that point it became freely available to any and all users..

It may be an 'opinion' but it's a wrong one.

More correctly, any image uploaded to the net will prove to be difficult to protect [copyright].

Fair-use 'clauses' of US Copyright Law allows 'some' duplication [partial] without consent.

As far as what will and will not be acceptable/approved here is solely the determination of the site owners/administrators and/or the work's copyright holder [author/owner]....

 

Lantec
Reply #25 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:46 AM

This is a public forum

No.......it's not. Read the last 3 lines at the bottom of the page.

 

mickeko
Reply #26 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:50 AM

borsovborsov

I will explain:

 The original image has a size of not less than: 1024х768х24bit= 2.25MB(in format Bmp),

 The same image in Bootskin XP already has the size: 640х480х4bit =150KB (in format Bmp)

 Conclusions:

Ie the secondary image uses less than 5% of the original data, that under international law be permitted without the requirement of copyright

 

I wouldn't think that applies. Otherwise I'd be allowed to reproduce any huge copyrighted poster on post cards even if it's way less than 5% of the size of the original poster. I'm quite sure I'd get hung in court (even in sweden) for doing that.

jimehc1
Reply #27 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:58 PM

Lantec

This is a public forum


No.......it's not. Read the last 3 lines at the bottom of the page.

 
How one can say that 3 plus millions users is not public forum - we are not employees talking about work here..


In my opinion, any image you freely upload to the web is fair game the day it was posted to the web.. Because at that point it became freely available to any and all users..


More correctly, any image uploaded to the net will prove to be difficult to protect [copyright].

Fair-use 'clauses' of US Copyright Law allows 'some' duplication [partial] without consent.

As far as what will and will not be acceptable/approved here is solely the determination of the site owners/administrators 

This is in fact a public forum with all rights reserved by the owner "Stardock" What will and will not be approved is determined by the site mods - period, end of story.. As there are many copyrighted images here..

The orginail question was "Q:Can I use free Wallpaper from the prestigious Web-site to create my Bootskin" the answer is YES

Not a lesson on copyright laws or site mod powers.. And to take things one farther anything I do, say, create, upload becomes the content of the website owner, thus forgoing any copyright.. the same with any other website..

Now if someone was to use that download (free for personal use) image and use it for the business logo or something - then that is a differant story..

But once again Stardock does not approve based on copyright - that is an excuse.. What is approved is determined by the mods.. As free use is just that - free use..

But Stardock has the right to reproduce any content provide or uploaded here - for commiracial purposes (to sell) and any image that is copyrighted could cause a legal issue for stardock..

A simple agknowledgement of the source should sarfice as permission for "free content" as microsoft, dell, amd, firefox all use images to promote or advertise their products..  As a matter of fact search Dell Wallpaper and you will find dell support referring you to a website that has nothing to do with Dell - although not allowed here!!

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #28 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:36 PM

How one can say that 3 plus millions users is not public forum - we are not employees talking about work here..

Wrong. This is a private forum owned by Stardock. You have no rights here other than those granted you by the owner.

The orginail question was "Q:Can I use free Wallpaper from the prestigious Web-site to create my Bootskin" the answer is YES

Wrong: The answer is NO. You cannot use copyrighted images without permission of the copyright holder.

Not a lesson on copyright laws or site mod powers.. And to take things one farther anything I do, say, create, upload becomes the content of the website owner, thus forgoing any copyright.. the same with any other website..

Wrong: Copyright is always retained by the original copyright holder. Just because it is diplayed on a website does not give the right of copyright to the website. The uploader gives consent for the image to be displayed during upload, but always retains the copyright and thus the distribution of the image. The copyright holder can withdraw that consent at any time and have the image removed.

jimehc1
Reply #29 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:08 PM

I give up you win - any image uploaded to the net will prove to be difficult to protect [copyright].

There are a lot of images uploaded to this website that have a copyright - but the copy holder has not asked that they be removed..

Snowman
Reply #30 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:17 PM

jimehc
copyright - free for personal use

Correct, but I do believe the OP wants to upload the Bootskins (at least that's what's he's done with several others), and in such case he must have permission - no what if's or but's - no permission = no uploading.

jimehc1
Reply #31 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:31 PM

So just because it is on ewallpaper, how do you know he is not the owner?? You are saying you know every image owner or who's image it is??

Qoute

Liability - we are not liable for the contents of the site. We will do our best to keep the site's integrity intact but ultimately when you upload something, the responsibility is on you that you're uploading materials you own.

Snowman
Reply #32 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:39 PM

jimehc
So just because it is on ewallpaper, how do you know he is not the owner?? You are saying you know every image owner or who's image it is??

No, offcourse we don't. No one does, but when an image can be found on several other sites/fora (of various topics etc etc), then we, by previous experiences, assume that the used image is not an image, originally created by the uploader - and if we are in doubt, the uploader will be allowed to somehow prove that, he/she is the original artist.

Better than allowing a rip to pass through moderation.

Jafo
Reply #33 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:32 PM

Many of this site's Admins/mods have been around 'a while' and it's interesting just how many submissions we actually immediately recognise as NOT the property of the uploader...and reject them outright.

There are tools available to us which assist this....and ultimately there are the genuine/original owners themselves who will often contact us if something 'slips through' that should not.

Funniest instance was the guy who submitted a Windowblind some years ago....that actually belonged to treetog ....and guess who the moderator was who was checking it? ....

Jafo
Reply #34 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:35 PM

BTW....the info contained in #28 by Fuzzy is 100% correct....

jimehc1
Reply #35 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:02 PM

Good topic and great discussion on the matter of copyright and downloaded images..

Since the user is responsible for the images they use - the risk of copyright - is also the users

In fact, Most uploaders are just looking to share what they have found with other users, not take credit for somebody elses artwork

CarGuy1
Reply #36 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:17 PM

In fact, Most uploaders are just looking to share what they have found with other users, not take credit for somebody elses artwork

But to upload someones work without proper permission is the same as stealing. Nothing pisses me off more than to see my work at a site that I did not post it to. I post my work to a chosen few sites to share as I like. Doing so gives me a certain amout of control over them.

If users want to do as you say, the right thing to do is refer the link...not post the work elsewhere.

boss0190
Reply #37 Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:21 PM

But to upload someones work without proper permission is the same as stealing. Nothing pisses me off more than to see my work at a site that I did not post it to. I post my work to a chosen few sites to share as I like. Doing so gives me a certain amout of control over them.

Exactly. I see lots of people at DeviantArt posting walls to "share" because they like them. If the creator of the wall wanted it posted there, they would have done it. No permission=rip.

borsovborsov
Reply #38 Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:59 AM

I wouldn't think that applies. Otherwise I'd be allowed to reproduce any huge copyrighted poster on post cards even if it's way less than 5% of the size of the original poster. I'm quite sure I'd get hung in court (even in sweden) for doing that.

The analogy of the transfer of the poster in a card, irrelevant, because the resolution on the card can still be high, in Bootskin-conversion technology completely loses 80% of the original Spectrum, and 99% of the amount of physical information ,  he inverse problem is, just like a mouse transformed into an elephant.

And then, this is not the emblem and logo, they have a specific legal regulation.

 

 The question is, the image is already spreading wincustomize.com:  https://www.wincustomize.com/skins, exactly the same image, but not through a screenshot, and using Bootskin http://s39.radikal.ru/i085/0909/48/05048a527ca7.jpg)-This spread wincustomize does not permit me.

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And if there is a concept: - Not found authorship? It may also eventually Web-site to allow the existence of load (up to a claim of direct RIGHTS OWNER?

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And then, I still maintain that bootskin XP, contains no more information than the Avatar, which is 80% of users take and reduce the author's picture...

Lantec
Reply #39 Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:09 AM

Correct, but I do believe the OP wants to upload the Bootskins (at least that's what's he's done with several others), and in such case he must have permission - no what if's or but's - no permission = no uploading.

Final answer.

 

Bichur
Reply #40 Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:16 AM

The question is, the image is already spreading wincustomize.com: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins, exactly the same image, but not through a screenshot,

 

that is a screenshot - it's even in the 'screenshot gallery'

 

 

Correct, but I do believe the OP wants to upload the Bootskins (at least that's what's he's done with several others), and in such case he must have permission - no what if's or but's - no permission = no uploading.

 

Final answer.

 

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