The Best of Glenn Beck II

Question with boldness.

Monday, August 31, 2009 by vStyler | Discussion: Politics

Seems the other thread is borked for most of us.

 

Now.. where were we?

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vStyler
Reply #1 Monday, August 31, 2009 9:16 AM

Oh yes...heres an idea,  I'd like it if all of you would either listen to the radio show or.. watch the TV show.. all week

Try not to miss one day as he tends to connect one show to another.

Each day, or at the end of week you can come in and explain why you think the main point of each show.. is either factually incorrect or in some way racist, lunatic blah blah etc..

and perhaps try to view the information from as much of a non-partisan aspect as you can.

 

...or not.

 

 

 

sydneysiders
Reply #2 Monday, August 31, 2009 10:37 AM

Now.. where were we?

 

skinning!......you're supposed to be....skinning....

vStyler
Reply #3 Monday, August 31, 2009 10:39 AM

Just seeing if anyone will actually watch the show they are knocking.

gmc2
Reply #4 Monday, August 31, 2009 10:58 AM

I do see excerpts on the Daily Show, does that count?

vStyler
Reply #5 Monday, August 31, 2009 11:01 AM

I do see excerpts on the Daily Show, does that count

 

Then sorry to say but that tells me exactly what I thought in your case then.

 

http://patriotsnetwork.com/   actually this site has all 5 of last weeks full shows. Becks strongest language yet.

 

Watch with an open mind... if your able.

 

Hell, watch #1 and see if you don't want to see the rest... and remember.. it's not how its being presented (insert ass clown here) but what is.. being presented.

 

PoSmedley
Reply #6 Monday, August 31, 2009 11:16 AM

Just seeing if anyone will actually watch the show they are knocking

I've watched it. I watched it last week when he brought his shrink/friend on and showed him the list of names his been called in the past week. He asks him how to 'go into battle' against these people that would call him names. The shrinks anologies start off with comparisons to drug users.

Beck then says "You know who will save this country? Alcoholics and drug addicts." His reasoning is that they 'know the dea'l and understand the name calling.

From there he admits he is a 'religous nut job' and the worst thing that could happen to him would be 'returning to my heavenly father without honor. Without doing what I was supposed to do." Not losing his job. Not losing his car.

 I have nothing against him being religous. Not one damn thing.  But he said nothing about being objective or responsible. As much as I don't agree with the guy, it was painful to watch. He all but said that his own 'agenda' was motivated by his religous background. It gave me flashbacks of Howard Beale saying he heard 'a voice' and the voice told him what to do.

Whatever his motivation, the guy is losing it. What if Obama   announced all he has done so far was for the honor of his heavenly father. That that was the most important thing to him, above losing the presidency or his place in history? Beck would be all over it. The first thing he would  want to know (if he didn't assume he already knew) was exactly who Obama's God was.

I'm starting to think more and more of the 30 million who tune in do so for the same reasons his fans do. They like a good train wreck. I think folks are tuning in now to watch him implode.

 

vStyler
Reply #7 Monday, August 31, 2009 11:23 AM

Po you mentioned nothing about the facts, videos, excerpts, ideas pesented over 4 hours.

 

Just shot the messenger.

gmc2
Reply #8 Monday, August 31, 2009 11:48 AM

Then sorry to say but that tells me exactly what I thought in your case then.

I'll take it as I gave it.

MadDeez
Reply #9 Monday, August 31, 2009 11:59 AM

i watched one show 2 or 3 weeks ago and that was far too much. between my laughing at his antics and being pissed off over his constant statement of 'facts' that were blatent lies, i don't care to watch him or hannity again.

vStyler
Reply #10 Monday, August 31, 2009 12:24 PM

k, so.. 1 show.. weeks ago. uh huh.

 

(btw Pas.. I was able to find the game, wasn't the best quality.. but was able.) Go Jags!!!

S J N
Reply #11 Monday, August 31, 2009 12:44 PM

Hell, watch #1 and see if you don't want to see the rest... and remember.. it's not how its being presented (insert ass clown here) but what is.. being presented.

Watched all five last week. BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!! The fact that Glenn Beck IS full of drama, I watch for the facts!

vStyler
Reply #12 Monday, August 31, 2009 12:46 PM

The fact that Glenn Beck IS full of drama, I watch for the facts!

 

Couldn't agree more.

Philly0381
Reply #13 Monday, August 31, 2009 1:07 PM

Damn, and all this time I've been watching the Discovery Channel.

MadDeez
Reply #14 Monday, August 31, 2009 1:24 PM

i'm glad you were at least able to watch it, john. i know the quality isn't the best but ............

k10w3
Reply #15 Monday, August 31, 2009 1:39 PM

vStyler


http://patriotsnetwork.com/   actually this site has all 5 of last weeks full shows. Becks strongest language yet.
 


I was going to challenge you, John.  I started out with this post offering a quid pro quo -- I would watch your 5 installments of Glenn Beck, if you would watch the 5 selected installments of Bill Moyers that I would post for you.  Tomorrow is my day off and I was going to offer to thoroughly waste 4-5 hours of my most precious time gagging on the spew this panderer of fear, if you would be willing to do the same for me.  But then...then I clicked on the link and started listening to this guy and thought to myself immediately, "Oh my nonexistent deity, PoSmedley is SPOT on -- this guy is Howard Beale at his zenith!  He even has the same rhythm to his rants!  His voice has the same timbre!  I keep waiting for him to say it...SAY IT, GLENN!  'I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!!' SAY IT!"  

I read his little chalkboard agenda and it was an epiphany!  I had SQUANDERED my precious time on fear 8 years ago, when I worried over an almost identical chalkboard agenda (substitute the word "Healthcare" with the word "Terrorism"), and here I am, 8 years later, still alive, still struggling, still fighting the good fight.  Where the heck was Glenn Beck when the debt was mounting on the war in Iraq?  Where was he when Osama Bin Laden broadcast his little tape claiming, almost Mr. Burns-esque," that his plan was doing exactly as he wished...America was bankrupting itself fighting a battle of little consequence against zealots armed with make-shift explosive devices and high-tech weapons they stole from us being over there (What a double whammy!  Our finest and brightest blown up with our own crap in the hands of people who thought so little of their own lives they would risk it to destroy one of ours!).  

Nothing in politics has changed in the last 10 years other than the faces the Network plasters on our boob tubes and their chosen buzz words they use to provoke emotion in their puppets, us the viewing public.

Facts about me: 1) I don't believe in God. 2) I don't believe the United States has a superior form of government, nor that we are "special" or "significant" to any other country or form of government. 3) I'm over the hill -- I have lived more years on the planet than I have left to live.  4) I have spent most of those lived years either angry, sad, unfulfilled, or restless.

So, after review of those facts, I have made the voluntary decision that I'm NOT going to take your challenge, and I am going to make the most of the years I have left, and rather than be a pawn to emotions and forces that do not optimize the time I have left, I am going to actively seek out pleasantries, things that evoke peace and calm and serenity.  The panic and hype of the day ends up panning out to nothingness anyway.

PoSmedley
Reply #16 Monday, August 31, 2009 1:48 PM

facts, videos, excerpts, ideas pesented over 4 hours.

I've mentioned them over and over in the other thread.

All his out of context clips, videos, and facts-presented-as-what-ifs with nothing to back them up. He raises questions and gives no concrete answers. I can do that. Let's start with his public admission of reading 'Mein Kampf'. He claims that it was only to understand the mentality of those behind it. Others could easily jump to the conclusion he's a Nazi. He's hiding a secert agenda. Their are people who woul;dn't even allow their own hands to be 'soiled' by that book that would jump to more extreme conclusions. In the end, without being mind readers, you either take him on his word or not. The same goes for his self proffessed alcoholism. You could assume that he is permantly unstable and feel he could never be trusted because that temptation will always be there. Alcoholism never gets 'better'. Medically it has been proven that when an alcoholic picks up again it's as if they never stopped. They don't pick up where they left off. Again, you give him the benefit of the doubt or not. He continuously throws out things and does nothing but imply the worst case scenario. All for ratings, money, and to secure his job, despite what he says. Because if he started being responsible in what he did, he'd be out of a job. He won't step back and look at what he insists is the real truth the way he would like people to look at him. He's a hypocrite. How does his religion factor in on that?

This guy is going down. He even knows it. It was like watching Kathy Lee Gifford cry her eyes out and whine the last few months she was on Regis. It was so much like 'Network' I kept expecting to see Sybill The Soothesayer pop up next to the shrink and give her prediction on exactly how long it would be.

You want to go on about the facts. Beck confessed his sole motivation, what he calls the worst thing that could happen to him on national TV. Fact. What would you do if Obama used those exact words? Where would you start? Would you want to know who that God was? What if it was the Jewish or Muslim God and not a Mormon God (as Beck's professed faith)? Would you then argue that one is better than the other, depending of course if it is the 'radical' version of that God or not? Would it be acceptable? If you will follow Beck, now that he has revealed what his driving force which would seem to be honoring his God by saying the inflamatory things he does WITHOUT backing them up or showing proof, but in sound bites and video clips, idle speculation, and inuendos galore, would you follow Obama should he chose to run the country on the same principals and in the same manner?

We are victims. We have been since 9/11. In a few moments of time on a single day we became paranoid, frightened, fearful, and felt lost. What we thought, hoped, and prayed would never happen actually did. Most to this day still ask themselves 'How did it happen? How could it have hapened?' We became angry. Over the course of the following days and months and years, nothing happened to ease those feelings for a lot of people. And I am not blaming anyone for not being able to ease those feelings. The people I do blame are the ones who prey on them. The ones who do it because they are in a place to be heard and can do it and seek profit and reward from it that has nothing to do with their 'religous' values. The ones who will keep fueling the hate and hostility, the fear, the depression. They are not trying to ease anything. . And so many are willing to listen if for no other reason than that they have decided there 'must' be more because of what happened on that day. That there are secrets and conspiricies everywhere. And they want to be shown them. They want to be led. And they'll listen to the loudest, most popular, most controversial voice they can find. And when that voice goes silent, they will prick their ears up for another one..and another one. Because they are scared and feel alone or lost. And the voices keep coming saying "Look here! There's More!" and so many look and listen because they are just afraid there may actually be more and they'll miss it this time.

Beck is a shining example of that. Let him put his money where his mouth is, or in this case, where his faith his. If he truly believes what he said. If he is doing it all for the 'honor of his God' and it's not just another huckster saying 'you don't understand', then prove it. Be an investigator not a regurgitator. Screw his 'Brainroom', go out and get his own hands dirty. The 'Brainroom' is just the 'PR' room. They may as well be the writers for the Access Hollywood. Show some responsibilty. Don't throw out 'What ifs' and say tune back tomorrow to find out 'how to'. If he turned around tomorrow and announced he was reversing his tithes, I might actually believe the guy is sincere in all he claims he is trying to do. But he won't convince me of that with a shrink, a whiteboard, and pretending to be a martyr on national TV.

I'm sure I've pissed off a lot of folks with this, whether they support Beck or not. The guy has only convinced me of one thing for sure..Sometimes fiction becomes reality. China Syndrome to Three Mile Island. Network to this mess. He can't go on the way he has been. He'll have to change his tune, his method, and/or his approach. I don't think he can. I don't think the media he works for will let him. They might pull him back a little..just enough to keep the money coming but in the end they'll let him blow up and bring in the next one.

vStyler
Reply #17 Monday, August 31, 2009 2:30 PM

Po, again, you have discussed very little about what was discussed on all 5 shows last week.. that you watched, I'm starting to think perhaps you didn't watch them at all, Almost everything you just said was why you wouldnt believe, trust anything that was told to you.. by him.

As far as taking things out of context.. some clips dont need context. to have been said at all in any context would have been an issue.

More than a shrink made an appearance, at least a dozen, imo credible, guests discussed issues from one end of the spectrum to another. Most in agreement, this is totally dismissed on your part.

 

Karen, the chalkboard vid that started this whole discussion is apprently what u watched a few seconds of nothing.. all supposed to have been tied in to the weeks episodes, so basically, you havent watched either.

 

So, conclusion, based on answers in this thread... It appears to me that everyone is ready to knock the guy but no one is prepared to spend the time listening to him

 

but let me guess... you just know what he's going to say right?

k10w3
Reply #18 Monday, August 31, 2009 2:43 PM

vStyler
but let me guess... you just know what he's going to say right?


You do, don't you?  He's telling you what you already know to be true -- he's preaching to the choir.  The choir LOVES his preaching because he's just confirming what they already know...Obama is evil, the country is going to hell in a handbasket, we have to DO something to stop him and his evil minions, and the way we DO something is to get the sheep to wake up by tuning in to Beck's show so we can ALL think the same.

I know from the 5 minutes I watched that I don't like his stage presence.  It takes him forever to get to the point, so much of what he's saying is "coming up" "stay tuned" "we're going to be..."  I don't need the foreplay with this guy, just screw me and get it over with!  Why can't BOTH sides, the left and right, just put what they have to say in an outline of major points with footnotes in case I want to check their facts? I have time constraints and other things I'd rather be doing, so give me the Cliff notes and I'll review it when I'm in the bathroom or something.

vStyler
Reply #19 Monday, August 31, 2009 2:51 PM

outline of major points with footnotes

 

It's too imporatant to minimize a full understanding.

Anyway, you now should have nothing more to say regarding Beck imo, any comments are just generalizations, nor does anyone else who hasn't taken the time to listen.

 

And here I thought everything he is saying had been debunked by y'all.... but no.

 

BTW - for all of you mocking the spelling mistake, watch the first minutes of last fridays episode (Link above)

 

So damn funny.

k10w3
Reply #20 Monday, August 31, 2009 3:15 PM

vStyler

It's too imporatant to minimize a full understanding.


What's important to you isn't as important to me, John.  I'm going Zen.  Less is more. 

 

...so yeah...I won't be commenting to any more Beck posts.  All of this crap is futile anyway; none of us is going to change anybody's mind and my personal bliss is skinning, not politics.  I'm done.  (the video is a metaphor).

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