Well, I'm sad to hear that your rights to free speech, free market and what the constitution gaurantee's you aren't important to you.

 

 

Can you read my mind again and guess what I am thinking now? Geesh. I don't trust or believe his motives for what he is doing, so I don't trust him. Period.

On the contrary, it's too scary to just dismiss. It's sad. And it was all FOX news trying get some credibility back before they lose their lil' money maker.

Like Beck admitting he read Mein Kampf? Okay. Beck is a socialist Nazi who is destined to fall off the wagon and die of wet brain. Further more, I will never trust him because as part of the 12 step program he has to go back and ask forgiveness except where it may do further harm and I believe as a Nazi socilaist he has done terrible things he will never be able to go back and ask forgiveness for. But then on the other hand, the 12 step program is based on the belief that there is a higher power and socialists don't believe in God so he is lying about his not being an active alcoholic (which may explain a lot) because he couldn't possibly be working the 12 step program and lying about his  Mormon faith. And that's from only two staements he has made. Does that work for anybody?

I can only stomach the crap he spurts to prey on people for so long. I have listened to him. I have listened to entire shows. I listen to his radio show when I have to go out of state on long drives. Between him and Savage Nation I can gaurantee I will be so pissed off from their bullshit that I won't have to worry about falling asleep on the road. And that's a fact, not sarcasm.

What's to debunk? Really? What is to debunk? Why, in his list of the 32 czars that he has on his site, aren't all the things he spews on the air in writing when he does his little backgrounds? Why doesn't he list it there along with his 'proof'. Where is the proof for the crap he goes on about? You are the one with nothing to say except watch his show. Watch the clips. Watch the sound bites. Listen to the possibilities. I'll wait until he does an investigative, objective report on just one item, from beginning to end with all the facts. I won't listen to half of the story and then listen to him play connect the commies before he follows through on where he started. he throws so much crap out at one time, I don't know how anyone keeps up. Even on his radio show, when someone calls in who may have the opinion I do and asks him to back it up, he hangs up. HE'll say the facts speak for themselves and still NOT PRESENT the facts..JUST inuendo.

You, imo, have made no effort to convince me of anything. Watch his show, watch his show.  On the other thread, one guy calls Obama 'scary fucking stupid' and 'made Bush look good' because he counted '57 states'and then goes on to say Obama set up the whole Chrysler take over because that was his intent from the start. We go from 'scary fucking stupid' to 'political mastermind' in the time it takes Beck to say 'Tune in tomorrow and I'll tell you why." You can't have it both ways.

My point exactly. Like saying ALL the czars are Marxists and bombers.

He's probably in the FOX boardroom right now with Rupert Murdoch screaming "You will atone!'

Why would that happen?

I've read Mein Kampf, more for insight into motives than anything.. but so what, am I a Nazi.. of course not.

seems odd that you would do that as much as you seem intent on tearing him down and expressing rampant dislike.

 

Just haven't, as much as I want to, been able to find time, between being taxed to death at every turn and trying to make a living on top of it, it leaves me little time to do longer write ups detailing the kinds of questions I would like answers to. Which is why I provided the links to last weeks shows. The questions he is asking.. are what I want answered, No one has answered him anymore than they are likely to answer me if I typed it all out.

 

I will jot down some specific questions in a bit.. taxi time.

 

(non of this is personal)

I'll leave that for my 30 million viewers to decide. Is he a Nazi? He's read the book. He knows the lingo. He listens to a a TV show hosted by another confessed reader. Have any of his other friends read the book..the manifesto? How can we be sure? We'll look into this and get back to you tomorrow. I don't have time to check all the facts. I have other issues to adress like the way you spell your handle.

I stated why. Odd or not, it's the truth. I wouldn't lie about it and destroy my relationship with my Father in heaven. I'll let my 30 million viewers decide for themselves. Now about that 'V' in your name...

Sorry. I don't have time for you to go blah bah blah. If you don't get it by now, you never will.

 

Next poster, please.

 

None of THIS is personal either.

 

 

What good are all those rights if in exercising them, I alienate my friends and possible future customers, neglect my family, and pour enough cortisol into my blood stream to give myself an early heart attack that I don't have healthcare to keep at bay?

"You can be right, or you can be happy" ...Gerald Jampolsky

"If you want to know how I will govern, just look at who I surround myself with" - Barrack Obama

I think that perhaps, yourself and others just don't care who is surrounding Obama, I think perhaps that apppointed media diversity officer\Czar, Mark Lloyd, his background and his agenda.. just doesn't bother you. That he publicly praised Chavez's reveolution and the way that the media was manipulated and taken over and now is in chaarge of OUR media.. is OK with y'all?

That you actually believe that for 20 years Obama and his wife sat in Wrights racist and venomous church.. for TWENTY years and what he spew was never heard or never heeded by them? That, to me is just comical.

Do you believe he barely knew Bill Ayers ? that none of Ayers agenda was ever listened to or taken notice of by a young and impessionable Obama? Cmon...

Is the fact that Van Jones has won some 'awards' along the way really negate he is a self proclaimed communist that is now a Czar in this admina and a personal advisor to the president?

How many communists do you know, are friends with, employ? I know I dont know any... but I suppose.. thats ok too.

The chicago political scene is THE most corrupt in the country.. just a coincidence he cut his teeth there I guess.

Why were two black panthers, one employed by the democratic party that stood outside of polling stations with billyclubs not prosecuted by Eric Holder, yet.. he's going to go after the CIA who did nothing but their jobs and kept us safe for the past 8 years? ( all seemingly not Obama's wish, yet we really know he could stop any legal proceedings at anytime being the top law officer in the country)

Why has the census been massively overhauled to intrude more into our lives than at any other time in history?

Why was flag.gov the tattletail site pulled after just a few days, why was it up to begin with?

Why do we need a 'citizen army' as strong as our US military?

Why did a 1000 page healthcare bill HAVE to be shoved thru so quickly.. and how, if it is as complicated as everyone says was it written so quickly?

Why.. oh WHY.. did Acorn get such a massive chunk of stimulus money? WHy did it get one dollar?

Its a pattern, its hugely obvious to anyone that looks at it without bias what kind of govt is in power now and in which direction they want to take the united states. Its about stiffling dissent, ultimate power by hook or by crook, no holds barred.

All of this happened or is happening, it isn't out of context... but I guess.. if folks just don't care..If they don't want to piece it together... it doesn't really matter does it?

This has been being put together for many years, it's coming down.. If people choose to do nothing about it but shoot the messengers then lord help us.

I for one plan to stand up.

 

I have about 100 more I would post..if I really wanted to get going or had the time.. but why bother... its all just hate speech, racism and loontalk right?

 

Btw... the Liberal Dems in Japan.. after 50 years in power... just got spanked.

 

As long as the people have their rights, what is given.. can be taken back and will be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQe0Fd1rbj4

 

Yeah, I know.. its on Fox..they are just.... the messenger  but listen to what she says.

 

WHY IS A UNITED STATES CONGRESSWOMAN PRAISING CASTRO AND CHE GUEVERA ???"

 

Diane Watson just handed herself a loss before the voting starts.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrA9zj94NuU  Maxine waters... also done next time around.

 

This is why Beck isnt going down.. Too much material abounds.

 

"Megyn Kelly 2012"  Love it.

If by "communists" you mean people who believe in the theory behind the Marxist phrase "From each, according to his ability, to each, according to his need." then I guess you know one....*timidly raising my hand here*  I know it doesn't work in practice, but it's still the way I run my household, and if I had an island to myself, that is how I would run my island.

I would really love to be a ruthless, free market, fatten-my-wallet-and-fuck-everybody else, sort of individual -- after all, as an atheist, isn't that the mindset I'm suppose to have?  Instead my own personal philosophy fits with what Jesus taught, love my neighbor as myself, being my brother's keeper, and treating others as I would like to be treated, despite the fact that I don't have faith that guy ever existed.  Kind of ironic, isn't it?

john, you believe beck. i don't. i know he submits his fallacies as facts. he has admitted to doing so in the past. i watched him one time and that's all the proof i needed. he's not a journalist or investigator. he's a shock-jock, nothing more.

nothing i can say will convince you. nothing you can say will convince me. this is true about beck and the way the country is being run and the prospects of its future. this can also be said about the colts vs jags.

you're still a friend, tho. i do have a friend who claims to be a communists. i also have many friends who are republicans. i don't hold their political views against them.

Now now karen, thought u were done here.

Ook, So you answered 1 question.. albeit.. timidly.  Communists are ok with you

Since when does one have to be titled journalist or investigator to point out what is clearly visible ALL OVER THE MEDIA.

Keep shooting the messenger everyone, avoid the questions.

 

Btw.. Beck is a a registered independent and goes frequently after republicans also.. If y'all watched, you would know that.

If you examine what that Rabbi said, you'll find it fairly Communist/Socialist and pretty revolutionary stuff....it certainly wasn't Capitalism.

john, when the messenger is not being truthful, the messege isn't valid.

olberman and maddow go after democrats too but i don't see you supporting them.

I dont see anyone bashing them

 

About what in particular?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqIGNZWKskk  what Po, you left out of your info on Van Jones.

 

Looks pretty investigated to me, quotes, footage, dates, relevant information. I'm sure if any of it was false They would be on it like flies on sh*t.

 

Suppose this guy was reborn ( we all know that hasn't happened ) Is it ok for him to be in the inner circle of the United States wHite house just based on past behaviour??

 

Show me where Beck lied about him, the untruths... oh and the dozen or so questions I asked ^

the only show i've watched is the one where he centered on the cars.gov site, john. not one thing he said that night was truthful.

as for your questions, i'm not going to waste my time on them because it doesn't matter what i would say, you wouldn't believe it. like i said before, you're right-wing and i'm a bit left of center.

as for olberman and maddow, they aren't like the daily show, hannity, and beck where they use only a portion of a soundbyte or video clip. they show the entire clip or tell where they got it from. they, at least, attempt to get facts which is unlike beck. do i agree with everything they say? nope. do i watch them religiously like you do of beck. again, nope. i don't base my opinion on what a talking head says. i do my own research and base my opinions and thoughts on that.

i don't believe everything being said about obama and his adminstration just like i didn't the things said about bush and his administration. actually, i've gained some respect for bush since he's left office based on his actions after the election. i can't say the same for cheney, tho.

as for who is in 'the inner circle', i don't care. i don't care what their past is (true or false), what religion they are, or what color their skin is. it's what they believe now. they only things in one's past i hold against a person is if he/she was guilty of a sex crime or murder.

i'm not trying to be personal in way, shape, or form here, john. i hope you aren't taking it as such.

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(NOTE: I'm done posting about Beck....I'm not necessarily done posting in a lighthearted manner in response to other posts).

Pas, you cant say, Im not answering the questions cos u wont like my answers, cmon..

Honestly I have rarely watched Olberman or Maddow but I will make an attempt to.

As for not caring who is moulding this country.. sorry but I don't get that... seems like turning a blind eye.

As for me.. I'm not right wing, at least I have never considered myself that, I wasn't fully behind the war, nor was I against it. I'm pretty centered. If it was the republicans using these tactics, putting people like this into places of power with no oversight, I would be just as vocal about it. So I believe..would Beck, he isn't standing up for left or right.. he's standing up for the people, the constitution.

I don't even think the run of the mill democrats see whats coming... they better wake up.

 

You should too... were all apt to lose something if all this goes forward as they are planning it.

 

Famous last words  " If I'd only"

 

Very Funny Karen.

Is that so?  Where were you back in 2000 and 2004?  You know why there were 2 black panthers, one employed by the democratic party that stood outside of polling stations with billyclubs not prosecuted by Eric Holder?  Because there was no prosecution of Kathleen Harris in 2000 by John Ashcroft, and no prosecution of Kenneth Blackwell by Alberto Gonzalez in 2004 when the votes of mostly minority and poor voters were being stolen (see video below), and so in 2008, after being screwed over in the past 2 elections, the screwed decided to show some of their own power.  And the reason they are not being prosecuted is because (if you watch the movie, "The Network", as Po likes to quote from) our voting system doesn't matter...why?  Arthur Jenson from "The Network" answers that better than I can:

You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.

It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!

Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?

You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality -- one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.

 

Where is his written agenda? Or stated agenda?

WHO's in charge of our media? Really. Who?

I sat in a church for 16 years that said Mormons were nothing but a cult. I never swallowed that load of crap. The day everyone agrees on everything, I'll personally give you a foot massage.

Yes. If I am to belive Beck read Mein Kampf for the reasons he says he did and nothing more.

• For the second time..I never said it negated anything. Which just goes to show how easily you draw conclusions.
• I think you mean former and dissassociated communist unless he has stated somewhere that he is now again a communist and I missed it.

And it's quite possible for you that that statement is truer than you think. Besides, communism is an ideology. You all throw it around as if it meant pedophile or rapist. What if your best friend was a communist? Would you disown him for having a view different than yours on how the economy should be governed? Where is the proof that this is Obamas agenda besides asscociates. Decades after he was censured, McCarthy is alive and well and being channeled through FOX news. I hope none of your friends are communists (they like to hide cause they be sneaky that way) for if they were exposed you..YOU would be on the list of aquantinces, close friends, companion, and/or confident. In that scenario, you wouldn't want to even know who Beck was.

Geesh. I grew up in South Philly. I didn't have anything to do with Mayor Goode bombing MOVE headqusrters and burning down an entire city block

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I duuno. Why? For the same reason a hundred other sites went off the internet that day?

 

If it didn't go through quick someone would be crying it's taking to long. Which in reality it has taken decades to long. Better question..why did they all sign off on it so quickly if it's so flawed?

You mean a group of private citizens who train for military duty in order to be ready to defend their state or country in times of emergency? I dunno. Was 9/11 just a fluke?

 

You tell me. And what is it that concerns you about it? And if it was so wrong, why did the houses sign off on it? How did Mr. 'scary fucking stupid' manage to outsmart them all again?

I see more of a pattern if I cross my eyes and stare real hard at my ash tray. Which 'real' smoke comes from and it doesn't mean it's on fire.

No ones gonna get shot. It's more fun to watch him implode.  And he's going to.

This video exemlifies everything I have been sayin. It leaves out that he was WRONGLY arrested and that the charges were dismissed and that he later won a settlement in court against the police department over the wrongful arrest.

The it quotes STORMS pamphlet, or in terms you can understand, their personal Mein Kampf. Which BECK has read but would deny the same aproach.

I love how they list the people that Mao Tse tong killed. Like no one in this country who was not a communist ever did. I suppose our government didn't single handidly try to wipe out the Native Americans. We didn't have a civil war over slavery and issues and go after one another, each side led by a president that was non-communist. This is FEAR-MONGERING. No different than lumping all Muslims with the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11.

Ella Baker. Let me ask you..as a member of a repressed race in this country, a country that believed in slavery and even after abolished held down that race. Denied it rights. Looked the other way at cross-burnings and lynchings. A country that took almost 200 years to say "You can vote' to that race...how long would you or could you tolerate it without seeing the end in site before you started looking ...looking, mind you...for answers elsewhere? And all they say is she worked closely with communists. Doing what? WHAT? They don't say. Considering the time and circumstances for all you know she was scrubbing their floors, based on that video. It doesn't even say she was a communist. At least they had the decency to call her an unsung civil rights worker.

That's because it really was shit and the smell ran them off. And there is no need for them to 'get on it' cause it's all more unsubstantiated crap. Inuendos. Fear Mongering. They don't even ask any real questions. Just present you with what they want you to hear. This just convinces me more and more and more how Beck is just a media puppet and wants you to be his fuck puppet. That was hard to watch.

What's sad is that they showed a lot of the good the guy is trying to do and they tried to put a negative spin on it. Yeah. The guy is a revolutionary. He has some amazing ideas on getting people back to work and fixing the cities. The machine you're reading this on was first concieved by a few revolutionary's. And the software. You gonna burn it if they out themselves as commies tomorrow?

 "At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. ... We must strive every day so that this love of living humanity will be transformed into actual deeds, into acts that serve as examples, as a moving force."

He said he was still a revolutionary..not a communist. In your video.

It's all so much hate and fear mongering. You picked the wrong clip to show me. It truly made me sick to think of the money and attention generated by that kind of crap day after day, hour after hour in all forms of media. Someone said something about the czars not being held accountable. We all are held accountable. Beck will be to.

He's abusing the constitution, taking advantage of it, and bastardizing it. He's turning the constitution into a joke. He's not standing up for anything because he's too busy hiding behind his faith, his alcoholism, his network, and anyone the network can provide from shrinks to dinks to keep more sponsors from leaving and losing more revenue.He hides behind the constitution. He thrives on peoples fear, hate, prejudice, and need to feel secure and hopeful. He really is a parasite.

I like how people who aren't even AMERICANS go on about the constituiton.

I bleed RED WHITE AND BLUE. My brother is a Marine.

I was born in Chicago Illinois. When I was very small we did Duck and Cover. There were commies crawling up out pants legs.

In the 60's things got wierd. There were people with long hair who told us that we had to question what we were being told. Our way of life was in question. That was a good thing.

In the 70's we had a president who said that we couldn't keep doing all the things that we had been doing. Importing huge amounts of foreign oil. Living beyond our means, on credit.

This president was soundly voted down but he was right.

Why didn't we listen to him?

Because we are a NATION OF ASS CLOWNS.

Now we have a president who is trying to make fundimental changes in our health care system. The Health Care we have now is a system is now ruled by insurance companies that have the bottom line as their prime objective. If we don't change the system than we will continue to be a nation of ASS CLOWNS.

I'm sorry to go on about being a natural born American but it seems to me that because I am a bonfide citizen, born and bred here that I have more rights than someone can't even vote and isn't a citizen of the USA. Too bad if some people don't like what I say. I could care less.