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Thursday, August 20, 2009 by Wizard1956 | Discussion: Personal Computing

I got this in an e-mail and thought it should be seen here. Make of it what you wish.

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WebGizmos
Reply #121 Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:32 AM

Suggestions?

Yeah....stop using it!

DrJBHL
Reply #122 Sunday, August 23, 2009 7:29 AM

Suggestions? Yep. I'll pm you. The first one is: Never listen to that nut WebGizmos...a thoroughly seditious, contentious and maniacal skinner. Also a great guy. He does the work of three men: Larry, Curly and Moe.

Realize I have to remain "general" because I've never taken your medical history (and won't do it in a public forum) nor examined you (never in a public forum...lol) and because doing that could possibly incurr liability, because I didn't "see you" and do what MD's have to do to evaluate a patient and that would violate the Canon of Ethics...I hope you understand also that the machine might not be set optimally or might not be functioning correctly. The former should be addressed by a Pulmonologist, the latter can be checked by a Respiratory Supply Co.

Also there are a wide variety of masks....the Pulmonologist usually can be trusted to help you with the right one.

Re the heat problem...sometimes lengthening the tubing helps with that. I'm telling a redneckdude about tubing and cooling things? LOL...you got a 'still maybe? That's the principle, though. There are also cool air humidifier options, I think. LINK. Looks interesting.

Hey....why not create a "Medical Dx" (That's the way we abbreviate the word diagnosis, btw).

CarGuy1
Reply #123 Sunday, August 23, 2009 7:38 AM

This thread lost it's formatting and is fubar with FireFox at Reply # 112. In IE8 it retains it's format.

Jim, that sucks.

Lack of sleep will make your life miserable. I know, due to a fractured L4 in my back I only get 4 hours a night.

DrJBHL
Reply #124 Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:30 AM

Maybe an adequate painkiller at bedtime would help...or if you awaken for another reason, to take one then? That's a pretty painful problem, CG.

* doc asks should I be starting a "Medical Advice Column" ? 

 

 

Chasbo
Reply #125 Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:21 AM

I had decided to not post or leave comments anymore but this has got my blood up.

Time to speak: I don't want to hear one peep from Republican Congressman or Senators about socialism until they give up their socialist benefits.
 
Congress and all Federal Employees benefit from socialized medicine.

The Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, enacted during the Eisenhower administration provides health, dental, vision and life insurance benefits to civilian government employees. In the instance of health, the program offers policies from virtually every insurer that wishes to participate at a rate funded from 72% to 75% by taxpayer money. 

Visit the FEHBP website for complete information on these programs:

http://www.opm.gov/insure/index.aspx

Check out the section on eligibility. Not only are current Federal employees, including members of Congress covered, so are their spouses and children, coverage continues at the same rate after the leave their jobs if they've been employed at least five years:

Federal retirees and their surviving spouses retain their eligibility for FEHB health coverage at the same cost as current employees.

Children receive coverage through their twenty-first year.
 
ANY REPUBLICAN CONGRESS PERSON OR SENATOR WHO STARTS BLABBING ABOUT OBMA SOCIALISM IS FULL OF SHIT AND SHOULD SHUT THE HELL UP!
 
I want to see how you Obama haters out there are going to explain this away.......
CarGuy1
Reply #126 Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:38 AM

Doc,

I take  Lortab 10/500 but alas they do not work as well as they used to. They tend to wear off after 4 hours and the pain lets me know it's time to start moving around. As long as I don't stay still to long, I can deal with it.

I prefer to funtion as part of the awakened world to take anything stonger so my sleep tends to suffer. I've done the percocet, oxycotin and morphine route and decided that it wasn't for me. The odds of something going wrong is too great for me to concider another surgury at this time but I'll probably rethink that once the pain gets too strong for me to handle.

As long as I can still walk, work, and be productive, all is good.

Thanks for the concern...you are a true friend.

 

DrJBHL
Reply #127 Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:43 AM

Chasbo, I'm nether an Obama hater nor a Republican, but in all honesty currently health insurance is essentially 1) Gov't. (VA, Medicare, Medicaid).  2) Private  3) Employer provided.

In the case of the Military, and 1), this equates to the Employer based since it is, basically, an untaxed benefit. That's how FEHB pretty much equates with that. It shouldn't continue after employment terminates anymore than with any other job.

Yet another reason why HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM is necessary.

 

k10w3
Reply #128 Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:34 AM

Carguy1 - Have you seen a pain specialist, yet?

DrJBHL
Reply #129 Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:50 AM

This thread lost it's formatting and is fubar with FireFox at Reply # 112. In IE8 it retains it's format.

I broke Forums?  

Please don't rat me out to Jafo.

willistuder
Reply #130 Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:59 PM

Chasbo
I had decided to not post or leave comments anymore but this has got my blood up.

I want to see how you Obama haters out there are going to explain this away.......

That's easy--they're government employees. Governments always take care of themselves. I've worked in government, and there are plenty of benefits. Have you noticed how government workforces practically never shrink, no matter what happens? Obamacare will increase the federal workforce immensely, so there will be even more people collecting those benefits that you don't like.

willistuder
Reply #131 Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:13 PM

DrJBHL


1. Medicaid covers some of the unemployed. Medicaid is a U.S. government assistance program that provides health care benefits to certain categories of low-income individuals, including children, expectant mothers, senior citizens, and people with certain types of disabilities, primarily those with no health insurance or substandard coverage. Medicaid was first enacted on July 30, 1965, through Title XIX of the Social Security Act. By structure, each individual state presides over its own Medicaid program, while the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) provide oversight of the state-run programs, as well as certain mandates for service, quality control, funding expenditures, and eligibility standards.

Medicaid is very different from Medicare, a social insurance program aimed to benefit the elderly and individuals with certain disabilities, with which it is often associated. Unlike Medicare, which is fully funded by the government, Medicaid is jointly funded by federal and state governments and has significantly more eligibility criteria than Medicare, criteria which vary from state to state. As a result, many individuals whose income and financial assets appear to entitle them to Medicaid may not qualify; equally, those who have higher income and greater assets may qualify.

The rights of those in the program are tenuous. LINK

2. Medicare: Which Part? A, B, C, D? The answer to that simple question ISN'T. You should Google "Medicare Benefit Policy Manual". It's quite long and involved and it boils down to "How much do you make?" and many more questions. Your question seems simple, John but it isn't.

Actually, I believe the plan would be to administer the various options via the Medicare Apparatus.

That helps. I haven't studied the system. In Canada, if you're born, you get a health card. I know that the proposals aren't a universal system like Canada's, so there will still be a lot of people who will remain uncovered. It might not make any difference in Karen's or kona's situation.

Philly0381
Reply #132 Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:16 PM

i do so find it just amzaing that the discussions here still are one side versus the other side.  I hope you do realize we are doing just what the Polictions want, fight amongst ourselves.

Both Political Parties have done thier best, no matter what you may think, to essentially take care of thier 'own'.  I know you all understand that, it's a given. 

Lets face it, they got to Washington for only one reason, and they remain there for only one reason.  Every time there is an election, whether for Senator, Representative or President, the folks running should have strong serious doubts whether they will receive enough votes.  There should be no 'sure thing'.   

What do I mean by the above, the only people that are going to change anything are the votes or 'We the People', the Politician are never going to change anything except thier address.

 

willistuder
Reply #133 Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:33 PM

DrJBHL
The current system is broken. It's cost is ballooning...because employer based health insurance is an open checkbook and the uninsured's cost is being shifted onto the insured.

Government based healthcare is an open checkbook. A corporation has more reason to contain costs than a government ever would, and that's the way these government schemes always work in the real world. The costs will be shifted from the insurance pool to the taxpayer.

DrJBHL

No one is interested in entering another's home. No one is forcing anyone to choose any one program over another.

Au contraire. They are very interested in entering peoples homes and workplaces. That is very clear if you read the act passed by the HELP senate committee. Aside from that, that's their style. Check out the latest snitch e-mail fiasco perpetrated by the White House.

DrJBHL

This is about Health Insurance Reform.

It's actually about taking over the health care industry. It's being done under the guise of reforming insurance. They have every intention of introducing a single payer system, and they will start that process by creating onerous conditions for the insurance companies, such as requiring them to provide insurance to people with pre-existing conditions, and not allowing the companies to charge more for people that smoke, for instance. That is in the proposed legislation.

willistuder
Reply #134 Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:43 PM

DrJBHL


Quoting DrJBHL, reply 111


"My stuff" is hardly mine at all...I collect things from all over and play around with them....btw...watch out for squirrels, they go fer the ... errrr...acorns.

You're good at it. I've seen a few of them here and there, and they've almost always been appropriate, and well-put together, not to mention clean and clear, maybe even good-looking. I hope I'm not spoiling you.

willistuder
Reply #135 Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:53 PM

Philly0381
i do so find it just amzaing that the discussions here still are one side versus the other side.  I hope you do realize we are doing just what the Polictions want, fight amongst ourselves.

Both Political Parties have done thier best, no matter what you may think, to essentially take care of thier 'own'.  I know you all understand that, it's a given. 

Lets face it, they got to Washington for only one reason, and they remain there for only one reason.  Every time there is an election, whether for Senator, Representative or President, the folks running should have strong serious doubts whether they will receive enough votes.  There should be no 'sure thing'.   

What do I mean by the above, the only people that are going to change anything are the votes or 'We the People', the Politician are never going to change anything except thier address.

 

I know what you're getting at, but there are honest differences of opinion among the participants here. No politician is making us argue about the different understandings we have, and different they are. We can't just wish them away.

k10w3
Reply #136 Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:33 PM

willistuder

A corporation has more reason to contain costs than a government ever would.


"Containing costs" at what price?  Corporations (insurance corporations) are "containing costs" but denying benefits, which is leading to piss poor health care.  Corporations MAIN purpose is to show a profit for the current quarter, NOT necessarily to deliver the best product available.

Lets face your worst case scenario -- ACORN goes into the work place and into people's homes and forces them to quit smoking, eat right and exercise.  Would that not lead to less incidences of COPD, type 2 diabetes, and coronary artery disease which would lead to less individuals having to file for disability, which would decrease taxes? 

As far as the raising taxes issue, taxes are already being raised to offset the cost of the inunsured, but it's being done on the local level through property taxes.

We can do better than what we have right now, really!  Not enough is being done when it comes to preventative medicine because there are too many people who can't AFFORD preventative medicine, so they have to let things escalate until they end up with a life-threatening emergency (always much more costly than preventative care) -- SOMEBODY pays for it!  If that person ends up having to file for bankruptcy the hospital has to pass the expense on to people WITH insurance -- sort of like a tax -- so if the government got into the health insurance business, it wouldn't have to show a profit, and the expense passed on to the taxpayer would be less!  (I've actually heard some opposition to the public option BECAUSE it would put insurance companies out of business). 

I suppose because I've lived in the US my entire life, and worked in health care for the past 20 years, I don't understand the pitfalls of the sort of socialized medicine Canada and Europe have -- I just see the tragedy and sorrow of the have-nots here in the wealthiest country in the world that supposedly has the best health care in the world.

DrJBHL
Reply #137 Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:37 PM

"Containing costs" at what price? Corporations (insurance corporations) are "containing costs" but denying benefits, which is leading to piss poor health care. Corporations MAIN purpose is to show a profit for the current quarter, NOT necessarily to deliver the best product available.

Correct....that and the CEO's fat salary/benefit package. On whose back? The shmendrick who bought a policy. Thus, we already have rationing.

Enough. I'll never convince anyone. They only become more firmly entrenched...can't hack it.

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 111


"My stuff" is hardly mine at all...I collect things from all over and play around with them....btw...watch out for squirrels, they go fer the ... errrr...acorns.


You're good at it. I've seen a few of them here and there, and they've almost always been appropriate, and well-put together, not to mention clean and clear, maybe even good-looking. I hope I'm not spoiling you.

Thanks...but you should have seen my first efforts. I caused poor Fuzzy to have dreadful bouts of retching. Po' will probably never speak to me again, starkers, angus1949 and Zubaz hope to meet me on a dimly lit street or even darker alley. Most just ignore me hoping I'll go away soon, or sooner. Mostly they say, "I like your approach. Now let's see about your departure." or "The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist." and "You sound reasonable...Time to up my medication." also, "I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter."

So, all in all another success story for the "Eff Up Fairy".

k10w3
Reply #138 Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:56 PM

DrJBHL

"The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist."


  I never heard that one before.  That's great!  LOL!  I'm not going to use it at home, though, because I'm afraid of instigating a violent reaction.

WebGizmos
Reply #139 Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:27 PM

With April coming up soon it might be a good idea for people to serioiusly check out this website  http://www.losthorizons.com/index.html and get educated about how your getting ripped off. And NO...it's no tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theory stuff. Here's your chance to stop bitching about how your taxes are spent...waiting for "tax reform"...LMAO...and do something about it. Or keep paying...they would really love it if you did...no really...they would.

DrJBHL
Reply #140 Sunday, August 23, 2009 7:03 PM

Look, Bud...if I have to give up my tinfoil hat, you can keep your money and the website. In fact, if you do, you probably will keep your money!

But keep your feeelthy hands off my tinfoil hat.

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