@Dr.Gonzo:

You are entitled to use Dr. in front of tour name or M.D. after it?

I am, and I will gladly help her. I would be happy to treat Karen and her daughter for nothing more than the satisfaction of knowing I did the right moral and ethical thing.

"Am I my Brother's keeper?" is the question you ask. So did Cain. One is no less guilty of inflicting death if one does it actively or passively by inaction or by ignoring the plight of others (or by blocking ethical action designed to help or save them).

BTW, folks...Just heard that Beck's been forced to take a week off for calling the President a racist.

Dr.Gonzo

Really requires no other comment.

DrJBHL

I wonder if that includes his radio program also?

Why don't you pay the hospital bill, then? That would help.

Doc, did you read my first post, and if so, what is your view on the state and it's appointed organs having the authority to impose diets and lifestyle habits on citizens and businesses? Are you in favour, or opposed?

The price of health care is not going to go down if the government takes charge. That's preposterous. Medicare and Medicaid and the Post Office and Social Security are going broke. If you want to drive the price of insurance down, allow private insirance companies the freedom to compete in all states. Costs will remain costs whoever pays for it; procedures won't be less expensive; somebody has to pay for them, whether it's the taxpayers or members of an insurance pool. If you want to be charitable, that's great. I'm all for charity.

That sort of stuff isn't anywhere. No one wishes to impose anything on you.

Personally? I believe that Like auto insurance...if you have accidents, you pay more....if you smoke, eat poorly (only if you can afford healthy choice- another racket in America), don't exercise and generally abuse your health, then you should pay more in your premiums...that's only fair, after all.

As for paying Karen's daughter's bill...let me explain something: Every person who pays insurance is paying that bill. It's called cost shifting. You should research the four basic components of any hospital bill...which have nothing to do with the prices quoted, rather are built into them. One of the four has to do with the cost of paying the bills of the uninsured.

What I wrote, willi was that I would trat them for nothing, since I already participate in paying the bill...just like you (if you're insured).

The kicker is that Karen is going to have to pay the bill also....do you understand how broken and ridiculous the system is yet?

How about if I ask you how much the CEO's of Health Care Co.'s make? {Where does that come from?} LINK 

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/12/Health_care_equipment_services_Rank_1.html 

OK...let's take it one at a time:

The price of health care is not going to go down if the government takes charge.

1) who says the Gov't is going to yake charge? Is there even a Bill yet? No. Lotta screaming by frightened people who haven't got the time to read or listen. The Gov't runs Medicare and Medicaid. Haven't heard seniors whining about that.

2) Going broke: So? Limit unnecessary visits and waste: Tort reform, redundant testing, etc. The Post Office isn't tied into Medical care, so save it.

3) Social Security? Biggest Ponzi scheme ever...but why is it going broke? Because it's funds are being used for other things like Bush's BS war in Iraq....and to pay off that debt.

3) Private Insurance Co.'s don't compete. Fact: Cost is going up, not down. Services are being denied. etc., etc.

4) Charity has nothing to do with anything. Try Reading the links I left re Paul Krugman. The "free market" won't solve a single thing.

It shows.

Bring on the clowns! Just what we all need: Diversion.

Ah beck, can you never make me laugh the moment I see you?  His attitude and appearance reminds me of a middle schooler.

Let me see if I got this right .

Wizard starts a "OMG look at this" thread to spread some FUD. The FUD gets disproved within 9 replies , and now we have three pages of political FUD on this board most of which have nothing to do with the original topic?

The site was real,so was the privacy statement,but this thread is now so far off topic,I doubt anyone cares. Politics =Horseshit!!!

( the deeper you get into it,the more it stinks)

And the intent wasn't FUD,I thought it was of interest to the community,I was wrong and aplogize for posting it.

I thought it was interesting.  There was a lot more truth to it than I thought there would be.  Although, if I understand, the only people who ever saw that policy were the car dealers, so IMHO Beck was being a little dishonest when he warned people not to go to cars.gov.  But somebody in the gov. really screwed up that anybody ever saw, much less agreed to, that joke of a "privacy policy".

Threads like this, to me, demonstrate one disturbing truth: An alarmingly high percentage of Americans believe that at least one of the two major political parties are, inadvertently or deliberately, trying to destroy America.

Don't apologize . Just do more research next time.

As for the thread. I really hate reading these threads , because it makes me lose respect for people I normally hold to high regards

I'm not sorry you posted it, Wiz. I thought it helped deal with everything that's going on. I found many of the comments fascinating. I apologize if you feel I hijacked it. It wasn't meant as FUD, imho. You can't please everyone. Perhaps people learned about a topic angering and bewildering folks...perhaps not.

I find the current angry/paranoid atmosphere disturbing and unjustifiable.

I also agree with Karen. The fact it wandered OT isn't necessarily a bad thing. We are a Community. The freest and most respectful around these days.

Man, i knew i shouldn't have clicked "submit". lol.