sometimes it'll happen when you're still young.

And sometimes it happens that you like things that noone else of your age likes (example- Jefferson Airplane's 'Somebody to Love', and others from that era (1960s-70s)), or you like things that no one else your age understands (at least in my neck of the woods) understands what you like.

Of course, a lot of what I like has to do with modding (Phase Out Hull with movement/jumping/shooting woohoo!), which so far no one else here in Gulfport Mississippi (you've probably never heard of it till now) understands.

Windows Defender wasn't great when it launched, but it's a very good option now.  Soon it'll be replaced by Microsoft Security Essentials, which is a GREAT antivirus AND antispyware tool.  The AV vendors are going to have a fit since they're going to lose tons of money over this, but who cares?  As usual, there'll be plenty of mudslinging and people claiming things aren't good enough and they'll be ignored by the general populace who either knows better or doesn't care.

I'd be very happy with Defender for spyware if I wasn't on MSE already.

I was one of the lucky ones that got to try the new Microsoft Security Esentials package that was released a few weeks ago and I've been putting it through its paces on a Windows 7 machine and I am very impressed. Reports from many other users a very positive. One guy downloaded a package of 8,000 virus's and threw them at MSE and it's detection rate was as good as some of the 'paid for' AV's. Microsoft are still developing MSE and it will be released later on in the year FOR FREE!!!! I suspect the free offerings from AVG, Avira and Co are on 'borrowed time' and the 'paid for' stuff like Kaspersky, ESET, Norton, McAfee etc etc are rather nervous. Let's see

Sure, I've heard of Gulfport. I've even been through there a few times over the decades. Nice country, and very nice beaches along the Gulf coast.

So, is the correct spelling noone, or no one?

no-one... when referring to a person or persons.

Who else is wondering if the whole point of this post was to advertise Iobit.  I've never heard of em and they look like the type who'd use that kinda spam tactic.

Yeah, except that the author of this post has been a member here for almost 4 years.

 hehe ! The nearest I get to spam nowadays is this :

Thanks for the replies people .... sho' preeshyate it ! Wizards little tip did the trick .....  .. Cheers !

incidentally , why Iobit ? Fast , very fast for me , and cheap ( FREE ! ) and you cant get cheaper then that ... for what they do to help me keep my PC clean I would willingly pay for summat as EASY TO USE , TRUSTWORTHY AND FAST ...

WOW... That long ... don't time fly when you're having fun ? ?

MSE sounds good...but will it be as good as NOD 32? I wonder.

I wouldn't.  I know better freeware.  Typically when techies have never heard of something, there's good reason for it.

*shrug* But you do whatever you like   I'm just cynical.  Gasp.

No self-proclaimed  "techie" should overlook Iobit,imho. Their software does a good job,yet is safe enough for casual users. The registry cleaner alone is reason to use ASC.

+1

P.S. Glad I helped with the OP. Thanks Mike, you made my day. 

I don't know it's no good.  I know there are better options.  Which is what I said.

you do not need it. go to your run menu type in service go down to windows defender and turn it off so it does not load at start up if u have your own fire wall turn windows firewall off as well it will speed up start up time and free up cpu and ram one other thing running more than one antivirus and spyware utilitys on a comp will cause conflict and can cause program problems for u  . need one of each i use norton antivirous and orbit 360. i use spyware blaster for blocking tracking cookies and ad cookies that is all so here is the lowdown on just turning it off by its defalt that does not stop it from starting up when u turn on your comp and u will get that dog gone popup that says windows defender is turned off so just go to service and disable it u will not get any popups or any thing about it being off. so if u feel the need to run more than what is needed ony use those programs for what the others lack turn the rest of the programs other apps off on most antivirus and spyware apps u have the ability to turn off what u do not want or need.  the reason for this is if u run 2 antivirus programs real time protecion is compromized do to conflict with both apps. trying to do the same job at the same time it can slow down your comp or cause it to crash or heaven forbid even the blue screen of death due to conflict. so take my advice or not your choice. i build comps for gaming on the side for people so do not compromize your system if u do not want a lot of problems only use what is needed to keep your comp and privacy safe have a good day.

Well if he wasn't confused before, he will be trying to read that.  You only need one good AV software.  Separate Spyware/Adware blockers are only needed when the AV software doesn't address those. 

It's generally not good to have more than one AV software running at the same time such as Windows Defender and AVG.  It wastes memory and CPU resources and may lead to conflicts between the two.

i thought you could/should not have two different anti-virus programs but that you could have multiple anit-spyware/malware programs.  Yes ti does make sense to not have them running in the background at the same time.

You can have multiple anti-spyware programs (especially if you're a heavy P2P user I suppose, in which case you have plenty of that sort of thing to worry about) but for most people it's unnecessary.

The discussion is soon to be moot anyway.  Microsoft Security Essentials will replace Defender soon enough, and that will practically destroy the competition in the antimalware world.  (Because it's free, and because it's among the best products available.  I've been using it since the closed beta went live on June 23rd.)

Norton is one of the WORSE things you can install on your computer.

I luv my norton.

Obviously you haven't heard Jafo's stories about Norton. As for myself I can't see paying for Norton or the updates when the free alternatives outscored Norton in recent tests. And those alternatives aren't as bloated...