So the Moon landings never happened?

Saturday, July 18, 2009 by Fuzzy Logic | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

...and the Earth is flat...

A nice image from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter showing the Apollo 14 landing site

 

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starkers
Reply #61 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:35 AM

Oh crap, what have I done.

Exactly! WTF have you done???  Just when I give the conspiracy theorists the FedEx guy (you know, an extra straw for 'em to clutch), you go and give 'em something 'really plausible'... something they will attach credibilty to.

Just don't go letting the cat out of the bag that the reflector kona spoke of got up there due to an accident with a large "Roman Candle"

Now if yer wanna mention that when Neil Armstrong got home his missus refused to do his laundry because he'd been rolling around in moon dust, then go ahead, be my guest.

I mean, I don't want my childhood illusions shattered... just don't need that feeling that I took time off to watch it on TV when I could still have been hard at work.

Jafo
Reply #62 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:39 AM

The F117 program was started in the late 60's early 70's, but didn't get revealed publicly until the early 90's.

Then....just a few years later...

1995 - Jindalee Radar System - The United States of America spent $11 billion developing an aeroplane that could not be detected by radar. Scientists at the CSIRO then concluded that if the plane could not be detected, perhaps the turbulance it makes passing through air could be. $1.5 million later, the Jindalee Radar system had transformed the stealth bomber into nothing more than an unusual looking aircraft.

Bit pointless, really...

gmc2
Reply #63 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:30 AM

then there is the blackbird (SR-71) developed in the 50s (I believe) that is and possibly still is the fastest hunk of junk on the planet. went coast to coast with a running start in under an hour. love that plane, very cool.

another pointless bit of trivia.

messiah1
Reply #64 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:01 AM

into nothing more than an unusual looking aircraft

I wouldn't say it's nothing more than an unusual looking aircraft...It's reported that the serbs shot down that F117 by using cell towers to triangulate it's position also.  No matter what technology you come up with, there will always be someone coming up with a way to counter it.

messiah1
Reply #65 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:12 AM

1995 - Jindalee Radar System - The United States of America spent $11 billion developing an aeroplane that could not be detected by radar. Scientists at the CSIRO then concluded that if the plane could not be detected, perhaps the turbulance it makes passing through air could be. $1.5 million later, the Jindalee Radar system had transformed the stealth bomber into nothing more than an unusual looking aircraft.

That isn't why that radar was developed.  It may have that possible application (it's reported to).

Jafo
Reply #66 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:13 AM

I wouldn't say it's nothing more than an unusual looking aircraft...

messiah....the point is...11 billion bucks down the gurgler....after a couple of guys in labcoats at the CSIRO said "bugger me - chuck us a tinnie and I'll solve it in no time, AND it'll cost eff-all" ....

The whole intent of the project went down the dunnie when it was no longer 'stealthy' ....

M-203
Reply #67 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:14 AM

then there is the blackbird (SR-71) developed in the 50s (I believe) that is and possibly still is the fastest hunk of junk on the planet. went coast to coast with a running start in under an hour. love that plane, very cool.

another pointless bit of trivia.
No, it's not the fastest.
The SR-71 can do Mach 3.2.
The X-15, which first flew in 1958, can do Mach 6.72, making it the fastest manned Aircraft in the world.
However, the X-43, an unmanned Aircraft, reached Mach 9.6, making it, THE fastest air-breathing hunk of junk on the planet to date.

http://www.nasa.gov/missions/research/x43-main.html

Warp Speed, here we come...

 

[EDIT]About the edits, why can't we have a nice, normal, easy-to-use vBullitin forum...

messiah1
Reply #68 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:25 AM


I wouldn't say it's nothing more than an unusual looking aircraft...


messiah....the point is...11 billion bucks down the gurgler....after a couple of guys in labcoats at the CSIRO said "bugger me - chuck us a tinnie and I'll solve it in no time, AND it'll cost eff-all" ....

The whole intent of the project went down the dunnie when it was no longer 'stealthy' ....

Agreed, like I said, I develop product A to do this, you develop product B to do that...it's always been that way, it'll always be that way.  But, it was and is a sweet machine.  As is the NightHawk, even though they mothballed them.

Jafo
Reply #69 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:27 AM

Agreed, like I said, I develop product A to do this, you develop product B to do that...it's always been that way, it'll always be that way

Fortunately for the USAF....we're on their side....

gmc2
Reply #70 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:10 PM

No, it's not the fastest.

thank you, I wonder what we have that is not out for public consumption. talk about wild rides, whoa...

Lantec
Reply #71 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:19 PM

The X-15, which first flew in 1958, can do Mach 6.72, making it the fastest manned Aircraft in the world.

Just curious if that's faster than the shuttle?

M-203
Reply #72 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:26 PM

Lantec

The X-15, which first flew in 1958, can do Mach 6.72, making it the fastest manned Aircraft in the world.


Just curious if that's faster than the shuttle?
The shuttle is solid fueled, the aircraft are air-breathers. That makes the shuttle a whole different ball of wax... It operates in an airless enviornment, making far greater speeds possible.

If I recall correctly, it goes at around Mach 25 in orbit.

Lantec
Reply #73 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:27 PM

How about on the way back?

M-203
Reply #74 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:43 PM

Lantec
How about on the way back?
I reckon the movie Space Cowboys said it best,

"it's not an aircraft, it's a flying brick on approach...".  And I believe on reentry, it slows to Mach 17.

The Shuttle is, to all intents and purposes, just a spaceship, NOT an aircraft. In terms of something manmade blazing across the sky, yes, the Shuttle is the fastest, but it glides, it doesn't fly, and unless I missed something, that's the point of this part of the thread.

kona0197
Reply #75 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:09 PM

then there is the blackbird (SR-71) developed in the 50s (I believe) that is and possibly still is the fastest hunk of junk on the planet.

Made a really cool robot in Transformers 2 as well.

kona0197
Reply #76 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:25 PM

[EDIT]About the edits, why can't we have a nice, normal, easy-to-use vBullitin forum...

Good luck with that...

IROKONESS
Reply #77 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:43 PM

Or if the forum opened at the last page instead of 1rst. It would save time.

kona0197
Reply #78 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:37 PM

The forum always opens to the last response I have read for me. You have to click the icon over on the right hand sign after a user's name.

But yes Vbullentin would be better IMHO.

pjdark
Reply #79 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:49 PM

Of course they went to the moon. Geez, conspiracy theorists drive me nuts!

DrJBHL
Reply #80 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:07 PM

pjdark
Of course they went to the moon. Geez, conspiracy theorists drive me nuts!

Yup...they're conspiring to drive you nuts.

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