Intel Core i7 975 Extreme Edition Processor Review

Monday, June 8, 2009 by ShelbyGT_The_Car | Discussion: Personal Computing

         "The New Extreme Processors'"

Just when you bought that new computer with the newest CPU and all the goodies.

They come out with even better stuff as usually they do.

I've seen and heard of other developments for such as the i5 and another new i7 for a LGA1156 socket is all in the makings.

But and where is that Nahalem i7 at so far? They play the game it seems for the money at all given points. Such as lets do EX first and let the i7 expand a bit more.

Personally I think the i7 has better properties for being the chip of chips. But what are the problems yet to be told?

You can go over some of this review here I've found to help those people that want to over clock and design their systems a bit. But I'm still waiting till they finish the testing and all that good hard work before I really jump in and buy a new system for i7 right now. There is too much going on in the way designs are flowing from the chip designers to put a real handle on what is the best out there.

Oh and the price too! I'm sure if it ever gets really close with that Nahalem i7 chip being finished. It will cost you and the boards too will be the same high priced. Always is for a good product.

Anyway check it out and lets see if anyone has info as to where all this will be going and how soon will that chip of chips be on the market?

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JoePhillip
Reply #1 Monday, June 8, 2009 6:27 PM

Imagine getting this Intel Core i7 975 Extreme in a Laptop!!!  This thing has to be the Worlds Most Powerful!!

http://www.lpc-digital.com/store/3302695/product/cl-221-3

 

 

 

 

 

themadmanazn
Reply #2 Monday, June 8, 2009 6:41 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-975,2318.html

Tom's Hardware has a review too.

ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #3 Monday, June 8, 2009 7:02 PM

Imagine getting this Intel Core i7 975 Extreme in a Laptop!!! This thing has to be the Worlds Most Powerful!!

 

Like wow Joe that laptop does not even come with a OS with the base price of $2275.88 The guys at work got to get one of these things.

Thanks for the link gona give that a really good look.

Themadmanazn Toms review is going places - but still not everything I'm trying to find yet. Seems what I'm really looking for is being sat on for now.

Thanks for the link!

Nuttygamer
Reply #4 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 12:52 AM

Not that I don't like new computer chips, lets face it because of Moore's Law states this chip is going to be outdated in less than 2 years

well according to Intel, they are going to release it over the next year, lol that could probably mean what this or even next year. Did I already read somewhere on this forum that someone already got the chip already?!

And beside, no point cooing over it, even if you live for these chips, are you going to replace a $2000+ chip with another one, when the next one comes out?

starkers
Reply #5 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 2:03 AM

Bugger the i7, I might skip that and go straight to this, a 6 core AMD Opteron w/ hyperthreading and 34% more performance than its previous quad core CPU's.

Hehe, when will it ever end?

ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #6 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:48 AM

Hehe, when will it ever end?

My thoughts also Starkers...

are you going to replace a $2000+ chip with another one, when the next one comes out?

You just never know?

MuLaFlaga
Reply #7 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 9:37 AM

WOW 6 core AMD. I love AMD!

starkers
Reply #8 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 12:14 PM

Hehe, when will it ever end?

My thoughts also Starkers...

It never will end, not while consumers wanting bigger, faster, better are driving manufacturers to develop super-duper CPU's, RAM and GPU's with frame rates 10 times faster than the eye can blink.

I read in the piece on the Opteron 6 core that AMD have begun working on developing 12 and 16 core units, slated for release in 2011 - 12.  Hehe, what's the betting that Intel is working on something similar... and again will beat AMD to the punch?

Won't matter to me any, I can never afford the latest and greatest when it first arrives on shelves anyway... gotta wait a year or so for prices to drop, like when the next model comes out and what I wanted is obsolete in computing terms anyway.  Still, I like AMD processors, have been using then for the last 4 years or so, and I'm quite enjoying the performance of my Phenom II x4 920 over the Athlon 6400 I had

The Core i7 920 would have been nice but was out of my reach with new RAM and mobo as well, so this i7 975 is gonna be right outta my solar system... galaxy, even,  at AUD $2,300 + on its own.  Oh well, I'll get to play with one someday... like when a PC store has one plugged in and ready to go.

themadmanazn
Reply #9 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 12:26 PM

starkers
Bugger the i7, I might skip that and go straight to this, a 6 core AMD Opteron w/ hyperthreading and 34% more performance than its previous quad core CPU's.

Hehe, when will it ever end?

You realize if it is 34% better than the Phenon II, it is still slower than the i7...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-x4-955,2278.html

Look at the real world video and audio encoding numbers. Game numbers don't mean much with processors because they are almost mainly dependant on GPU.

Plus by the time that comes out, Intel will also release the Westmere which will be on 32nm tech and faster than Nehalem.

Intel is planning more cores as well. Their experimentation with a TON of cores (like 16) is on the graphics processor Larabee. I think at release it will have 8-16 x86 capable cores.

I will be honest, AMD needs a miracle to catch up with Intel.

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #10 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 1:21 PM

What is suprising about the reviews is it would seem the i7 920 is very close in performance but at a quarter of the price. So, if you want to buy an i7, the choice is clear.

themadmanazn
Reply #11 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 1:27 PM

Fuzzy Logic
What is suprising about the reviews is it would seem the i7 920 is very close in performance but at a quarter of the price. So, if you want to buy an i7, the choice is clear.

Thats been the case with Intel processors since Core 2 IMO.

Amranu
Reply #12 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 1:32 PM

There's never been a reason to buy this if you know the slightest thing about overclocking, just buy the 920 if you need to.

 

Personally though, I'm an AMD guy. My Phenom II is amazing for the price.

themadmanazn
Reply #13 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 2:20 PM

My Phenom II is amazing for the price.

Not to be an jerk, but the Phenom II just slighty beats out a Q6600... thats like a 2 year old processor on 65mn tech... AMD sure knows their stuff...

Let me clarify why I am such an Intel fan

I study processor design and Intel really pushes the bountry on new processes and technology. They have designs that work really well and they know their stuff. AMD has been going downward ever since Athlon 64.

Example: Are car fanatics excited about new Honda Civic? No. It is a great car, great price, great resale value, but nothing really wow. How about new Nissan GT-R? Thats a different story. It is a super car, pushes the boundries of speed.

So I am not just hating on people who use AMD, they are fine, they work and are priced decently. But at the end of the day, they are nothing amazing from my point of view.

Makerz
Reply #14 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 3:50 PM

I used to be a AMD guy until i got this Intel quad-core.

 

Now im a intel fan for life. The speeds are just all-out better. I used to always use AMD and had alot of friends that were on the Intel train and i thought no wai.

 

But you AMD ppl just drop some money on a good intel and see how you think then .

Amranu
Reply #15 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 3:56 PM

@themadmanazn Umm, the Phenom II 940 beats the q9400 at most tasks, while the 955 beats the q9550. Yes, they can't compete with core i7, but very, very few people need the power offered by it.

Makerz
Reply #16 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:03 PM

Amranu
@themadmanazn Umm, the Phenom II 940 beats the q9400 at most tasks, while the 955 beats the q9550. Yes, they can't compete with core i7, but very, very few people need the power offered by it.

 

And you think people REALLY need some of the quad-cores today?

 

No.

 

You don't upgrade your gaming PC to just "work ok". You always go all out with the highest you can get (or at least smart people do that instead of buying a new PC every year or two).

 

My PC is way higher than what i "need". But im a speed freak so i simply want it.

starkers
Reply #17 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:03 PM

Bugger the i7, I might skip that and go straight to this, a 6 core AMD Opteron w/ hyperthreading and 34% more performance than its previous quad core CPU's.

Hehe, when will it ever end?

You realize if it is 34% better than the Phenon II, it is still slower than the i7.
..

Um, which i7?  and which Phenom II?   As I read it, the 6 core opteron is 34% faster than the Phenom II 940... the 955 had not yet been released at time of writing. So, if benchmarked against the 955, the 6 core Opteron may indeed be closer to the i7 920 than we realise.

I'm no expert and I don't read up on every CPU's development or release, but I do know this, while not as fast as equivelent Intels, AMD CPU's are value for money and are reliable and sturdy... and for the average joe with not a lot of money, they certainly fill a place in the market that's needed.  Without competition, God knows how much higher Intel prices would be right now.... thank God for AMD.

Plus by the time that comes out, Intel will also release the Westmere which will be on 32nm tech and faster than Nehalem.

Um, the article stated that the 6 core Opteron IS being shipped to OEM's now... it's only the 12 and 16 cores that are slated for 2011 - 2012... and being first of its kind, who knows where AMD will end up taking the 6 core.  So in fact, AMD have siezed the initiative this time, and Intel may yet find itself having to run for its money.

I will be honest, AMD needs a miracle to catch up with Intel.

Maybe????  But then AMD's CPU side of things has struggled some since it acquired ATI... which by the way, is currently leading the way in GPU techology/development, so maybe that miracle isn't so far around the corner after all.

Forever the optimist, me.

ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #18 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:31 PM

What is suprising about the reviews is it would seem the i7 920 is very close in performance but at a quarter of the price. So, if you want to buy an i7, the choice is clear.

Pros and cons there Fuzzy - but I hear of a cheaper priced i7 920 in the making for those LGA1156 socket. Seems though they will be low power and very good for many of the smaller systems. Which I was and/or am hoping for in the X58 le micro board from EVGA. But I'm not getting my hopes up too much.

You know the funny thing about that board and a few of those other LGA1156 boards I've seen is they have no bio batteries! Actually I did not even see a bio chip either - kind of makes me think what the hell is this gona do and how you gona setup that thing. Oh ya those boards are 64 bit only  for the most of them. Oh there are a few that are both x64 and x86. But with no bio and if that is the case... no battery maybe... then I guess it would be a bio chip that is linked for direct control via the OS???

I'm flurried on this topic for those new i7 micro boards. Oh ya and get this - it does support sli and/or crossfire setup with 2 pci 2x16 slots. Also unlike the other new X58 boards with two eight pin power connections - it only needs one eight pin power plug.

I really want to get one of those micro boards and put that bugger in a larger as ever case - like a full atx tower- then add some killer cooling features for cpu, graphics and for sure the case itself with filters for dust and all.

I figure with the money I save buying micro and low power. To add it to the cooling and other features like solid state hard drives and such.

Just an idea that has been bugging the stuff out of me here lately and I'll not be happy till those guys finish with the testing and release that new hardware.

Like come on I can't wait!

themadmanazn
Reply #19 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:56 PM

Starkers > Most of what you said is true. I posted the benchmarks for the 34%, feel free to go look at em. I am not sure what you refer to when you say AMD is more budget than Intel, they have plenty decent processors for cheap. As a previous poster mentioned, there is no way in a sane person can you call any quad core budget. Dual cores are the standard these days and the Intel E1400 is a great example. It is 2GHz wich is decent, but can easily be overclocked to 2.4 or 2.8 on a aftermarket air cooler. It only costs $49 wow, thats budget there. 

Here is my major issue with your reply Starkers

ATI... which by the way, is currently leading the way in GPU techology/development

Ever since AMD aquiced ATI, it has been down hill for them. They use to compete with nvidia, now they have been reduced to budget cards just like AMD's are budget CPU's. Nvidia has held the fastest GPU for pretty consistantly ever since AMD aqcuired ATI. Also Nvidia is pinoneering the way with CUDA projects. Video encoding, graphic design, scientific research, all accelerated by CUDA. One example is here: http://www.dvhardware.net/article27538.html But again, thats one example out of MANY.

Also Nvidia has acquied physx allowing gpu's to be used as physics processors, not some stupid specialized physics processor.

Recently nvidia released their GeForce 3D vision kit. It works phenominally and they were out before ATI.

Last year Nvidia held the largest graphics conference NVISION. THey had tons of professional seminars as well as vendors and sites for the everyday folks. They even went out of their way to cordinate with Videogames Live (the most awsome videogame concert series).

The glory days of the Radeon 9700Pro are over, not to sound like a borken record but AMD no where close to Nvidia. 

Lastly check out this article and you will see, the Phenom II performs slightly better than the Q6600, again a 2 year old chip.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-ii-940,2114.html

Starkers > You love AMD and thats fine. I hold no grudge against AMD. I favor the side who is push technology and currently it is not AMD.

starkers
Reply #20 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:45 PM

Ever since AMD aquiced ATI, it has been down hill for them. They use to compete with nvidia, now they have been reduced to budget cards just like AMD's are budget CPU's.

I've already conceded that AMD/ATI have struggled since the merger... however, ATI has developed a DirectX 11 card with some pretty amazing clock speeds.  Don't recall exactly where I read this at present, but I do recall reading some benchmarks that suggested it wiped the floor with nvidia's GTX275.

Anyhow, that's beside the point, I actually run a Galaxy 9800GT nvidia card and am quite happy with it... the GTX275 would have been nice(r), but that would have been an extra $150 - $180 on top, and being that funds were limited to perform a PSU, CPU, GPU and RAM upgrade, it was well over my budget.

Starkers > You love AMD and thats fine.

It's not so much that I love AMD, more that they are more affordable, at least here in Oz.  I would have liked to have gone with an i7 920, but that was $200 more than the Phenom II x4 920, and by the time I added the cost of new mobo and RAM as well as, I wasn't even on the same planet.  An i7 uprade would have cost in the vicinity of AUD S1500 - $1600... my Phenom II upgrade with PSU, GPU and an extras 2gb DDR2 800 RAM was less than half that.

Lastly check out this article and you will see, the Phenom II performs slightly better than the Q6600, again a 2 year old chip.

Well there you go, while you say Intel has some budget prices on dual/quad cores, the Phenom II 920 was $45.00 cheaper than the Q6600 when I checked out pricings... and being that I would have had to buy a new mobo as well, the Phenom II was the obvious choice as it was compatible with the AM2 + socket mobo I already had.

So as you see, I did consider going with an Intel based upgrade, and I probably would have, had the cost not been so prohibitive at the time ... maybe next time around, when I7's and associated hardware come down in price a bit.

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