Graphics card - opinion
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 by Snowman | Discussion: Personal Computing
I fear my 8600 GT is about to go belly up, so I've been looking around for a new card and have spotted this puppy:
2 GPU Radeon HD 4850 X2 PCI Express 2.0 X16
2 GB GDDR3
DVI/HDMI (HDCP) HDTV out
(4 monitor outputs)
I'm looking for a 'highend-ish' card this time.
Opinions?
(It's going for around $380 over here)
Reply #22 Friday, April 17, 2009 5:47 AM
Well I settled for a Galaxy 9800GTX @ 1gb for AUD$210.90... with price fluctuations over the last couple of days, the GTX260 and ATI HD4870 would have been an extra $120 - $150, thus reducing my ability to upgrade my CPU and PSU with something decent.
Dunno what's going on with the Phenom II 940's... most places I checked have no stock and don't know when more will arrive, and those that do have it have jacked up their prices. The best local price I could find was AUD$499.95. (interstate prices were a little better, but with shipping it worked out roughly the same) so I've settled for a Phenom II x4 920 for AUD$310. Oh well, while it's around an 8% performance hit to the 940, it's still a 70% - 80% performance increase on my AMD Athlon x2 6400.
The PSU I've also been looking into is the AcBel 800w. I don't know anything about this brand, but a couple of PC builders have said they've never had issues and recommend them. If anyone could provide some info regarding the reliability, etc of Acbel PSU's I'd appreciate it.
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Reply #23 Friday, April 17, 2009 7:22 AM
Starkers... The 9800GT has known conflicts with Vista. It simply shuts down and reboooting is required. Something to do with WDDM drivers and AGP drivers.
Reply #24 Friday, April 17, 2009 10:19 AM
Hmmm, that's the first I heard of it. Thanks for the heads up, NT.
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I will do a search to see what I can find on the matter, but if you could clarify or link me to the info I'd appreciate it.
Reply #25 Friday, April 17, 2009 10:37 AM
get the corsair or a pc power & cooling unit if they're available in oz. you can't go wrong with either brand.
Reply #26 Friday, April 17, 2009 11:16 AM
I am using a EVGA 9800GTX+ and I run the game on all high settings @ 1680x1050 on a 22" widescreen. Runs flawlessly, and my card was under $200.
Reply #27 Friday, April 17, 2009 11:18 AM
wat about a nvidia Geforce 9800 or one thats a 6800
Reply #28 Friday, April 17, 2009 11:37 AM
The other option is of course the GTX295, but that's somewhat more expensive at $500+.
It's about $200 more actually. I'd go for a 4890, rivals the GTX275, can OC very well and in a bunch of games comes within 3 fps or so of a GTX285.
@Night Train: I've got a few friends with a 9800GT, neither have any of those issues. I wouldn't classify them as "known issues". Also the card is PCI-E not AGP.
I would also not bother with a GTX295, not until they release the single PCB version anyway, sandwiched GTX260s is pretty fail.
Reply #29 Friday, April 17, 2009 1:12 PM
oops, I have the 8800 GT, sorry. Sorry for my mistake and sorry I got the 8800 GT. Running winows experience score crashes Vista. Tis quite the " experience"!
Reply #30 Friday, April 17, 2009 1:47 PM
Yeah, I was looking at a Corsair 620w for AUD$172.00, as well as others, but the AcBels are slightly better price-wise and thus would allow me a more powerful unit for the price...
An Acbel 660w (True Rated) is AUD$126.90, and the 800w (Total Output) is AUD$189.90, and a couple of techies told me they've had no major issues with the AcBels and that some OEMs use them also.. they're also certified by Intel, so I thought they might be worth a look.
Nothing is set in concrete, however, and if the AcBels are proven to be not so good I will go with the Corsair 620w if it powers the new 9800GTX and Phenom II 920 (@125w) OK... otherwise I'm looking at an extra 45 bucks on a tight budget for a 700w
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Reply #31 Friday, April 17, 2009 1:55 PM
Well I did a search on 9800GT/Vista issues and only came up with this: "freezing on startup". Apparently the pesrson didn't uninstall the drivers for the previous card and there was a conflict. However, the issue was resolved with Nvidia's 'driver stripper' tool and a clean install of updated drivers. Apparently, this can be true of any graphics card upgrade and not just the 8800 - 9800... it's always best to clean out the old drivers first.
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Reply #32 Friday, April 17, 2009 2:14 PM
starkers, pc p&c rates their psu's at the constant ouput not the maximum. I know myh pC P&C 750 tops out between 850 and 900 watts. I'm pretty sure corsiar does now, also. don't judge a unit's value based on the number given for the output. i'm not the least bit familiar with the other brand you mentioned so i can't comment on their value. either way, good luck in your search. i hope you find parts for your rig that last quite some time and you're very happy with them.
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Reply #21 Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:49 AM
Well my system is fairly modern (14 -16 month old) and is still fairly decent, even by today's standards. OK, it mightn't be top end, but it's no slouch and certainly not old skool.... and I'm sure it'll cope with a GTX 260 or an ATI 4870 just fine with a PSU upgrade as well.