Thank Goodness It's All Over And Things Can Go Back To Normal

Barack Obama wins the US Election.

Wednesday, November 5, 2008 by starkers | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Well the fat lady has sung and the US Predidential Election 2008 is finally over.  Congratulations to Barack Obama and commissurations to John McCain, who was gracious in defeat and asked the American people to support Obama's Presidency. 

Good on you John McCain.

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NightTrainthedark
Reply #81 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 8:42 PM

it's downright sickening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

excuse me while I fix that for you...

it's downright sickening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Xiandi
Reply #82 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 8:42 PM

Ya know, if Barack Obama fails to unite and rebuild the US, it won't be because he failed... NO, it'll be because of those with a Republican stick shover so far up their asses that they couldn't crack a smile, much less contribute something positive to help the nation forge ahead because of their 'if it ain't our guy doing it then it ain't happening at all' attitudes
 

Take this comment and replace the names...see how it looks from the other side...

"Ya know, if John McCain is to unite and rebuild the US, it won't be because he failed... NO, it'll be because of those with a Democrat stick shover so far up their asses..."

Sounds pretty prejudiced don't it?

If the Dems fail, they will have no one to blame but themselves. Repubs do not have enough people in office now to make a difference in anything the Dems want to do.

The__Goo
Reply #83 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 8:46 PM

I think that the best solution is use WC for the skins, etc. and dump the stupid forums unless you need some sort of tech related help.

That is the most close-minded thing you have said.  You have participated in these forums and have made some very valid, and some not so valid points.  But for you to say that shows how ignorant you are all together.

I get on this site and click on a recent forum article and what do I see. More anti Obama ads.

you complain, yet you don't support the site with a membership.  Get a membership and you wouldn't see any ads.

I swear that I will be gone if these ads continue.

Again, I suggest membership but if you insist on leaving, have at it. Though you must understand sir that you end up on the losing side of that decision.

What the hell is wrong with you people!!  You are acting like this guy actually IS a messiah.  He's a mortal man.  He's a politician, and like all politicians... He is a liar.  If you think for one minute that this man actually wrote all of his speeches himself and that what he has been saying are his own words then I really feel sorry for you

Absolutely and as I said before; we are in a great place to finally be able to have a black man serve as the President, but make no mistake, he is a politician.

Let us not forget these words from Ronald Reagan

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.

Ronald Reagan (1911 - 2004)

All I see here is a bunch of people that have been conditioned by fear. Obama's campaign was based on hope and many of you can't handle that because you are conditioned to respond to fear. Obama does not preach fear so you have to create fear for your own comfort.

So when he said "with McCain you will get four more years of George Bush" wasn't trying to instill fear.  That wasn't negative campaigning?

 by the way this seems to be a culmination of two threads (I apologize for any confusion)

Island Dog
Reply #84 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 8:47 PM

Ya know, if Barack Obama fails to unite and rebuild the US, it won't be because he failed... NO, it'll be because of those with a Republican stick shover so far up their asses that  they couldn't crack a smile, much less contribute something positive to help the nation forge ahead because of their 'if it ain't our guy doing it then it ain't happening at all' attitudes.

The United States is not in ruins, so he doesn't have much "rebuilding" to do.  It's very interesting how the blame is already being laid out to republicans for Obama's failures, and he isn't even sworn in yet.  As was mentioned before, it's funny how one side now demands the other "better" work with them "or else".

 

The__Goo
Reply #85 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 8:51 PM

Ya know, if Barack Obama fails to unite and rebuild the US, it won't be because he failed... NO, it'll be because of those with a Republican stick shover so far up their asses that they couldn't crack a smile, much less contribute something positive to help the nation forge ahead because of their 'if it ain't our guy doing it then it ain't happening at all' attitudes.

As i have stated before, what can the republicans do.  the democrats have control of the House and the Senate and the Oval office.  Explain to me how is that the republicans can do anything.  Nancy Polisky is now the most powerful person in the world.  As long as she leads along the party line she will be unstoppable.

BigDogBigFeet
Reply #86 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:16 PM

Ahh it's good to see everyone's back to flaming their farts at one another.  Another serving of pork and beans anyone?  Pass the matches please.

ImStein
Reply #87 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:19 PM

Egads! I am an independant, yes, lower case....lol, I get tired of hearing that the blame goes to the Rep. here, and the Dem. there. GOOD GOD people! Instead of playing a blame game, or a game of 'screw the other side', just pull it together. BiPartisan....hmn....wonder if that really will be achieved?

 

My apologies for this random rant, just tired of it all, no matter where I go.


 

starkers
Reply #88 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:03 PM

Ya know, if Barack Obama fails to unite and rebuild the US, it won't be because he failed... NO, it'll be because of those with a Republican stick shover so far up their asses that they couldn't crack a smile, much less contribute something positive to help the nation forge ahead because of their 'if it ain't our guy doing it then it ain't happening at all' attitudes


Take this comment and replace the names...see how it looks from the other side...

"Ya know, if John McCain is to unite and rebuild the US, it won't be because he failed... NO, it'll be because of those with a Democrat stick shover so far up their asses..."

Xiandi.... that is NOT the point!  IT is no longer a'party thing'.... it's about the American people getting together behind their President Elect to forge ahead, not sit around squabbling over party preferences.... saying: "Our guy could do it better"  The "our guy" isn't there to do it, Obama is... and the time to unite the US is NOW... not in 2012 when 'maybe' there is a Repub President.

The United States is not in ruins, so he doesn't have much "rebuilding" to do.

ID, ID, ID ID! Where have you been in the last 8 years... watching reruns of the 'Brady Bunch' on your new Touch iPod with the volume turned way up???  The US IS in trouble.... and going by some of the drivel I've been reading in these forums, it's not just Iraq, Afghanistan and/or the recent financial crisis, either. Denial of cooperation from dyed in the ass Republicans with a 'sour grapes' axe to grind will pose an equally dangerous threat to unity, growth and prosperity.  And don't give me that crap about it being a Democrat run Congress/Senate!  It is government for the people by the poeople, etc, etc... and if the people do not recognise and support the elected government as a whole, then you have no government, just a group of politicians battling internal odds instead of the real issues.

Ahh it's good to see everyone's back to flaming their farts at one another. Another serving of pork and beans anyone? Pass the matches please.

I dunno that it's good to see... but I'm whipping up a couple of batches of curried cabbage cos presently I am unarmed. LOL

WeatherBound
Reply #89 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:24 PM

The never ending ways of Politics. Point and blame.

Lets move on to what we know best.

 WC and Skinning.

 

Xiandi
Reply #90 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:28 PM

IT is no longer a'party thing'
Then why did you say that?! What you said was so anti Republican that it blew me away! It's not a party thing? Your words in that quote say otherwise.

starkers
Reply #91 Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:15 PM

Then why did you say that?! What you said was so anti Republican that it blew me away! It's not a party thing? Your words in that quote say otherwise.

Um, like how did I know this question would come up????????????????????

Let's see here!  Those who are happy about Barack Obama being President Elect, regardless of party or nationality, are happy, celebrating and looking forward to a new dawn in US history... and those who are NOT happy about it, are NOT celebrating and are bitching about it like all buggery are self proclaimed Republicans.... hence the party association.  However, I am just the  messenger here, not the originator of this sad state of affairs.

Furthermore, I am neither anti-Republican or pro-Democrat here.... and the party of the President Elect is totally irrelevant to me. My comment was directed at the Republican supporters who have said they do not and will not support Barack Obama, meaning they will bring divisiveness rather than unity to the table.  That is NOT what America needs right now... hence the "it is no longer a party thing" comment.  Well it damned well shouldn't be.!

Frogboy
Reply #92 Thursday, November 6, 2008 12:51 AM

ID, ID, ID ID! Where have you been in the last 8 years... watching reruns of the 'Brady Bunch' on your new Touch iPod with the volume turned way up???  The US IS in trouble.... and going by some of the drivel I've been reading in these forums, it's not just Iraq, Afghanistan and/or the recent financial crisis, either. Denial of cooperation from dyed in the ass Republicans with a 'sour grapes' axe to grind will pose an equally dangerous threat to unity, growth and prosperity.  And don't give me that crap about it being a Democrat run Congress/Senate!  It is government for the people by the poeople, etc, etc... and if the people do not recognise and support the elected government as a whole, then you have no government, just a group of politicians battling internal odds instead of the real issues.

And here Starkers is why you just don't get it. You demand people to get behind your view while you hold the views of others with contempt.

When Bush and the Republicans ran things, they didn't deserve your respect because, after all, they're scum and those who support them are just in denial.

But now that someone you like has won, it's suddenly time to support the elected goverhnment and unify.

Good grief.

I don't have a problem with Obama.  But I do have a problem with people who are blind to just how partisan they are.

Excalpius
Reply #93 Thursday, November 6, 2008 2:11 AM

"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS."

- Mahatma Gandhi

kenwas
Reply #94 Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:19 AM

For some odd reason you sound like someone unhappy with the result of the election. If so, either get over it, or live somewhere else

Come on Doc, you don't mean this.  My goodness, if that was said to all the dems still crying about Gore loosing in Florida, you would be up in arms!  Like it or leave the country? You sound like Chavez and I know that is not you.

kenwas
Reply #95 Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:21 AM

"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS."

- Mahatma Gandhi

And what happened to Gandhi?  The truth is that EVERYONE  ALWAYS falls in the end, not just the "bad" guys.

kenwas
Reply #96 Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:39 AM

Wrong move if you are talking about the US/Canada NAFTA agreement. If you think the cost of energy is high now, wait until tarrifs are placed on the oil/gas/hydro that heads south from Canada if free trade is removed.

Exactly so and Canada is the #1 supplier of oil to the USA.

starkers
Reply #97 Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:43 AM

And here Starkers is why you just don't get it. You demand people to get behind your view while you hold the views of others with contempt.

Ah, but I do get it!  My comment is Party related only in that some people, self proclaimed Republicans, state they will not support Barack Obama, a Democrat.   The party association was there prior to any comment from me... and my comment relates to those who hold Barack Obama in contempt and do not support their President Elect on the basis of Party.

And to make things abundantly clear here, I do not give a rat's arse which Party Bush, McCain, Palin, Biden or Obama represent, to me that it entirely irrelevant. My views/opinions are based on observation of the person, not the Party... and my opinion would have been exactly the same had Obama been a Republican and McCain a Democrat.   If Barack Obama had chosen Sarah Palin as his Democrat running mate, I still would have disliked her, on the basis of who and what she is politically.

When Bush and the Republicans ran things, they didn't deserve your respect because, after all, they're scum and those who support them are just in denial.

Wrong again!  My dislike of Bush is for his war mentality and illegal invasion of Iraq... and again, that is/was purely about the man himself, not the Party or its supporters, who, by the way, are not scum.

But now that someone you like has won, it's suddenly time to support the elected goverhnment and unify.

Good grief.

Good grief orright!!  It's not about 'liking' Barack Obama.  It's about the US being in trouble and my belief that he is the better man than John McCain to lead it out... and with a united American People, irrespective of Party, race, colour or creed, behind him in support, the better it will be for everyone.  In other words, the opportunity is here and now, let's not wait for another tragedy of catastrophic proportions to bring the people together as one again.

I don't have a problem with Obama. But I do have a problem with people who are blind to just how partisan they are.

I really don't need to go there.

WebGizmos
Reply #98 Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:54 AM

Probably because our goals weren't GW's. He had his own agenda and we didn't fit into it. "Maybe"now we can start working together again as a country...we'll see.


Just to clarify what I said here above..."Our" and "We"...are referring to Us...the people of this country...and in referring to his agenda...I was not referring to his parties agenda...I was referring to HIS agenda of invading a country on a lie. I don't care for all these ridiculous labels that are conjured up and slapped on people as if you (not anyone in particular) have the slightest clue what they believe in. Peoples beliefs change as current events in our country change...so I don't see how someone can pin a label on anyone.

I don't belong to any party...I am a citizen of this country...The United States...which really doesn't seem all that united anymore. And personally I don't care who is in or gets into office as long as they do what's right for the "country" and it's people...NOT they're party or party agenda. Honestly I'm sick to death and disgusted with all this labeling and divisiveness amongst everyone...its no wonder this country is in the crapper...yes...that's right...I said in the crapper...and at this rate that's right where it belongs. Until we start working to together as one people of a once great country nothing will get better...no matter who is in office. I feel sorry for these other countries that are effected by what we as citizens of this country do...because we can't agree on shit. Maybe we need another uncivil war.

My feelings on Bush...and I didn't care what his party affiliation was when he was elected and still don't care...are that he is/was the worst president in the history of presidents...hands down. My feelings are based on what he as a person has done to this country. And honestly don't know if Obama is going to be able to do any of the stuff he said he wanted to do...time will tell...maybe he'll knock bush off his worst president pedestal...who knows.

 

But one thing is for sure...if we don't start working together as citizens of this country and put aside our petty differences we don't deserve the status of most powerful country in the world.

Excalpius
Reply #99 Thursday, November 6, 2008 5:23 AM

And what happened to Gandhi? The truth is that EVERYONE ALWAYS falls in the end, not just the "bad" guys.

What a truly simplistic reading...

The POINT is that yes, he died, as all men do, but the ideals of peace he stood for defeated the British tyranny that oppressed the Indian people.

 

Excalpius
Reply #100 Thursday, November 6, 2008 5:28 AM

When Bush and the Republicans ran things, they didn't deserve your respect because, after all, they're scum and those who support them are just in denial.

No.  They LOST our respect.  You tend to forget, as conveniently as you can, that the nation rallied around Bush post 9-11, including the righteous freeing of Afghanistan from the Taliban in our pursuit for the REAL perpetrators of that criminal attack.

The whole world was America during those moments.

It was AFTER these moments that Bush chose to sacrifice his legacy for one of fear, graft, and an unconstitutional, treasonous lust for executive power.

THAT is the why and when of Bush's loss of respect.

If you want proof, just check his poll numbers over 8 years. 

Bush had our support.  He lost it.

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