Windows Explorer STILL crashes all the time when Windows Blinds is installed
Sunday, October 12, 2008 by geminisama | Discussion: WindowBlinds
Okay hi. Since the beggining of this year, I've been having a major issue with Windows Blinds. No matter WHAT I do, Windows Explorer crashes FREQUENTLY when I have Windows Blinds on. I tried seeking help around February, but failed to get ANY useful help. For the last year, I've made sure to patch when I could, trying both stable, and beta releases, but Explorer STILL crashes all the time. So today I got fed up with it, after it crashed SEVEN times within 10 minuits. ALL I was doing, was talking on msn, and listening to iTunes. Windows Blinds would make it crash just about every other time I switched between the windows. So after getting pissed off, I removed Windows Blinds, and guess what, it's stable! I tried re-creating the conditions for the crash, and it won't mess up.
So this time, will I get support, or will I try, and have it all cast aside, and ignored?
The system info is here:
Your computer has a Windows Experience Index base score of 3.4
Your Windows Graphics Experience score is 3.4
WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 6.3 (build 110 x86 - Vista Edition)
WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
(Generic PnP Monitor) 1 is attached to ATI Radeon X1050
Wblind.dll 2008/09/22 14:59:20
Wbsrv.dll 2008/09/22 14:59:22
Wbconfig.exe 2008/09/22 14:59:32
Wbload.exe 2008/02/14 12:05:14
Wbhelp.dll 2007/08/27 11:54:07
Tray.dll 2007/09/12 17:58:21
Wbload.dll 2008/04/28 09:34:28
Screen.exe 2008/06/13 11:24:09
Sorry if I sound like a grumpy person, but I'm fed up with this, as I've dealt with it ALLL year, with no help, or change.
Reply #2 Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:08 PM
Before you last reinstalled WB did you use something like CCleaner to clean up left over files and your registry.
I can't say for sure as I run XP but the oldest file date for WB 6.3 latest build is 2008/07/20. Your install shows 2 file dates from 2007, that just does not seem right to me.
Here are my XP file dates for latest build
Wblind.dll 2008/09/17 07:04:20
Wbsrv.dll 2008/09/16 08:31:42
Wbconfig.exe 2008/09/09 19:46:32
Wbload.exe 2008/07/20 19:35:14
Wbhelp.dll 2008/07/20 19:35:07
Wbui.dll 2008/07/20 19:35:05
Tray.dll 2008/07/20 19:35:21
Screen.exe 2008/07/20 19:35:09
Reply #3 Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:22 PM
geminisama have you email [email protected] and presented your problem? Just a reminder, the froums are not the place to expect official support.
Reply #4 Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:27 PM
No I didn't run anything like CC cleaner, and about those dates. Ehh, thats what I got after updating 2-3 days ago through Impulse.
@Philly: I'll send them an email.
Reply #5 Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:36 PM
Check your system clock and list all your security apps...
Reply #6 Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:44 PM
Update or a fresh install? There was a bad update awhile back, not sure if it affected Vista builds, my dates on XP were out of whack until doing a uninstall, system clean with CCleaner and then a fresh WB install thru Impulse, reboots between each step.
Reply #7 Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:45 PM
The clock is just fine. "8:43 PM Sunday 10/12/18"
For security, " Avast! Antivirus(Doesn't run normally. I only use it when I suspect a virus), and Spyware Doctor (Again, only run when I suspect a problem)
Reply #8 Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:46 PM
I uninstalled, then reinstalled. So, fresh. And I'll do just that, and report back here.
Reply #11 Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:56 PM
Spyware Doctor installed is problematic, active or not. Has it been installed during all this? What ATI drivers are installed?
Reply #12 Monday, October 13, 2008 12:09 AM
How is it problematic?
According to Dxdiag: Main Driver- atiumdag.dll, atiumdva.dat, atitmmxx
Version 7.14.0010.0549
Edit: It has been installed, for maybe half the time. Around the time I got Windows Blinds, I had recently done a reformat, so I didn't need protection.
Reply #13 Monday, October 13, 2008 12:27 AM
Might want to update them (8.8 on-site- my guess is you have 8.6 installed)...don't think the problem is that since those would have been a more recent install.
When you disable active, it still leaves some restrictions in place. Frankly, I don't think that's it either.
First off...I've never heard of " WBLIND.dll_unloaded". That said, that error code is a very old Windows General Fault Error and the additional reference to 1033 indicates a problem with MS software...notably Live Messenger.
Try this: open Command Prompt in Administrator mode and run sfc /scannow.
Reply #14 Monday, October 13, 2008 12:36 AM
I would update the drivers, but I'm afraid I'll get those weird graphical glitches in KOTOR2 again. And you may be right with the Spyware doctor, but I have the freeware edition from the Googlepack, so all the active scanners, and things aren't enabled, so I don't think I have any restrictions setup.
Now about the msn error, today was the first time Msn's ever crashed, so I don't know whats up with that. My problem is Windows Explorer crashing frequently. Since I have Aero enabled, it hasn't crashed(minus the msn one), but I should re-enable blinds, so I can paste THOSE crash messages.
Lastly, I did as you said with sfc / scannow, but it opens up some box, then immediatly closes.
Reply #15 Monday, October 13, 2008 12:44 AM
...if it works for you now, leave it be.
That's not good. Start/ All Programs/ Accessories/ Command Prompt (right click, tick Run As Administrator) and that's what it did?
I don't think it's MSN specifically, I think it's Explorer in general.
Reply #16 Monday, October 13, 2008 1:05 AM
Oh, that was an error that I caused. I tried running the sfc / scannow through the search box. I did it correctly this time, and it's scanning.
Now about what Cavan1 said, I uninstalled Windows Blinds, then rebooted. I then ran CCleaner, and rebooted. Now, what version of Windows Blinds should I install? The stable version, or the newest pre-release?
Reply #18 Monday, October 13, 2008 1:10 AM
You don't have "Right Click' or some funky shell extensions installed, do you?. That Googlepack installation gives me pause.
Reply #19 Monday, October 13, 2008 1:16 AM
No apps called Right Click, and the only "customization" software I have is Windows Blinds, and CursorFX. Also, I don't believe I have any random shell extensions.
Edit: And if it matters, the only thing I installed from the Google Pack, was the freeware version of Spyware Doctor.
Reply #20 Monday, October 13, 2008 1:40 AM
Well, hopefully that scan fixed the errors, and Windows Blinds is now installed again, so I'm just waiting to see if it fucks up again.
But on a good note, I think, seems the info has been fixed.
Your computer has a Windows Experience Index base score of 3.4
Your Windows Graphics Experience score is 3.4
WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 6.3 (build 110 x86 - Vista Edition)
WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
(Generic PnP Monitor) 1 is attached to ATI Radeon X1050
Wblind.dll 2008/09/22 14:59:20
Wbsrv.dll 2008/09/22 14:59:22
Wbconfig.exe 2008/09/22 14:59:32
Wbload.exe 2008/04/28 09:35:14
Wbhelp.dll 2008/04/28 09:35:07
Tray.dll 2008/04/28 09:35:21
Wbload.dll 2008/04/28 09:34:28
Screen.exe 2008/07/22 08:10:09
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Reply #1 Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:06 PM
Oh nice! It crashed Msn this time, and the damn app isn't even loaded!
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BEX
Application Name: msnmsgr.exe
Application Version: 8.5.1302.1018
Application Timestamp: 4717a53b
Fault Module Name: WBLIND.dll_unloaded
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 48d3fd32
Exception Offset: 66049f64
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Data: 00000008
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: d995
Additional Information 2: 91c2fc47b88adac7785f78f1478d917e
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