You do know that the quality of health care is a lot lower though, right? Not to mention it will be ran by the government. I'm sure we all know what happens when the government is in control of something.

And Snidely, come on now. You can't actually think that Obama isn't a bigot after all the proven facts that have sufaced over the past year. Are you really that bias? It has nothing to do with pathetic commercials that are aired on TV, it's proven that the guy is racist and has been endorsed in the past by well known terrorists.

I'd still rather have a guy with a temper than a guy who not only dislikes the middle class but has also been known to be racist. Don't get me wrong here, both of them are awful. Lesser of two evils kicking in yet again.

Born out by your own example and their own behavior.  It is quacking and looking like a duck.  You dont have to be a zoologist to call it a duck. 

My reference to Joe Lieberman was an example of what is news - and the other just an example of delusions of self importance on the part of the media.

This is a shop-worn tactic when the goal is to pile on - pretend a columnist's opinion is a 'news' story to give it more column inches & maybe get it featured on Drudge.

three shout outs I feel I must make in regard to this thread that I am pleased is garnering the response & participation it is, leading up to the most critical election in, I am sure, all of our collective lifetimes and was the reason I posted it in the 1rst place....1. Snidely, you have more patience than I when it comes to the uneducated & willfully ignorant  2. Giz...man, I am a Canadian, but your earnest, forceful, heartbreaking response brought a tear to my eye...yes, if everyone gets a focus, works together + gets the other half deprogrammed, yes, the US can rise from the ashes of what is happening now..and finally 3. Warren..man, you are my new hero...

HOW THE FUCK CAN ANYONE CALL OBAMA A RACIST? THE MAN IS BI-RACIAL! HIS MOTHER IS WHITE, HIS DAD IS AFRICAN. THE MAN IS NOT A RACIST. if he had married a white woman instead of a black woman, would anyone call him a racist? it's doubtful. you'd all be bitching that a man with dark skin married a white woman.

steve, your rhetoric is based on nonsense and pure bullshit. it seems there are too many ignorant people believing everything the republican campaign is spewing forth. haven't you people learned the republicans' campaign tactics have always been to attempt to vilify the opponents' character instead of campaigning on the issues since reagan won the office? until 5 1/2 years ago, i thought mccain was a respectable person. not now. even he said back in may or june this election should be based on the issues. now that he's desperate, he decides he can't win by running a clean campaign based on the issues. you'd think he'd be against a dirty campaign after what was said about him and his family in south carolina during the 2000 campaign. both sides have run misleading commercials but at least obama's campaign hasn't flat-out lied about mccacin. you can expect the republican 527's to start their swift-boat attack/lie commercials to begin in the next few days now. they're desperate! let's not talk about the issues, let's vilify obama! let's say he's a terrorist, is supported by terrorists, is moslem, a socialistic elitist, or he's named after a hated dictator and hopefully enough idiots will believe us!

country first, my ass! the man is lieing to save his ass. he's more worried about himself than he is about the country. and let's not allow anyone other than hannity on foxnews interview palin! heaven forbid she get a question aslked of her that she hasn't already been told how to answer. hell, she can't get even get mccain and her policies right. she'll say one thing in one city and he'll say something different which totally disputes her in another city the next day.

which is it you like less, the color of his skin or his african name?

i highly doubt the quality of medical care in canada or england is any worse than what we have here in the us. i'm sure their care is on par with ours. their doctors are educated just as ours are.

whoa Snidely . . .Bravo!...TELL IT!...yours are the political facts & histories that the informed and reasoned electorate are basing their decision on Nov.4;add another Hero to my list...

Because he's the one who keeps bringing it up.

HE brings it up? it's mccain's cronies who keep mentioning his african name to implicate he's not 100% caucasion, not obama. the man is proud of heritage, i'm sure. he mentions his african father's path to american as much as he speaks of his caucasion mother's trials and tribulations raising obama as a single mother. there's nothing wrong with speaking of your heritage! look at mccain. he's the one who keeps bringing up his 4 star admiral father and grandfather along with his pow tenure. does that make him qualified to be pres? hardly!

The ads don't influence me, my own research does. 

• Hamas has openly said in public that they support Obama for President. 
  
• Obama was a former member of the Socialist Party, even though the "fair and balanced" media have been keeping quiet about it.
  
• Obama launched his political career with the help of William Ayers, who to this day, has no remorse for what he did.  Why would someone who openly hates America, who actually tried to bomb it, back Obama?  The big issue is Obama continues to lie about their relationship, when it's been proven they are closer than he has said.
  
  
• You should also look into the relationship between Obama and Khalid Al-Mansour.
  
• I would also recommend looking into the illegal foreign donations that have been coming in for Obama, especially from Kenya.
  
• Don't forget to look into the fact that Obama tried to get law enforcement officials to threaten people who oppose him.

I could really go on and on, but people keep thinking that Obama is some kind of messiah that can do no wrong. Look at Obama past, at least the part that you can find something about because he has a bunch of missing time that he won't account for.  He is a scumbag Chicago politician, nothing more.

No need to personally attack what I said, I was simply stating a fact Snidely.

ID pretty much went into some of the details. Keep in mind that nothing he stated is of an opinion, it's well known as long as your main source for information isn't a televised news program.

hmmm...considering Sean Hannity has an obsession this week with William ARES, your 'research' would indicate the tried, true & comfortable bosum of 'fair + balanced' Fox News....

Rather big assumption, there, seansky.  Even if correct, how does that make any of it untrue?

What is the obsession with Fox News.  95% of the media is in the tank for Obama, but yet people keep focusing on Fox News.  I notice you can't refute what I said.

think tumbleweed! 

a bit of a delay in my rebuttal due to glitches in posting replies to this post;it should be noted Dog that you are quoting chapter + verse the McCain attack dog Steve Smidt>protege of Carl Rove as well as Rupert's talking heads attack talking points...clearly, you are going to cling to those beliefs...

You still haven't proved what he said wrong, all you are doing is trying to draw the attention away from the topic at hand. Typical copout.

Because of the "Fair and Balanced" trademark, therefor it must be FOX News that is responsible for EVERYTHING! Even if what you are telling someone came from some random news source it must still be FOX News because they haven't heard any of if!

#57: Wow...if there was ever a demonstration of racist, bigotted, uninformed/ignorant hate and fear mongering...that was it. If someone can find a similar video of Obama supporters spewing vile hatred like that...I'd like to see it. The McCain/Palin ticket sure does love inciting fear and hate, and the "he's not one of us" nonsense. What happened to "united we stand, divided we fall"? Because they seem to be encouraging a lot of "dividing" with all of that.

Also, do they not realize that when they insinuate that Obama is a terrorist/sympathizer because of his middle name (which they sure love to throw out there) that they are infact insulting every single person with a middle-eastern name at the same time? I wonder what they would say/do if McCain's middle name was Adolf...rant and rave that he's a Nazi?

I see this fairly often. The truth is that the US has the best health care in the world.

I believe you are confusing health care with health insurance

And, as far as someone being incapable of racism because they are half black and half white? Anyone can be racist. The race of your parents has nothing to do with it. It is usually due to upbringing or societal pressures/leanings with a bit of personal temperment and esteem thrown in.

So Obama is a Terrorist for his brief association with Willian Ayers...  hum, guess McCain is guilty of the same as his ties with Ayers is even stronger. See the 'fund rasier' that is being highly publicized as Obamas association with Ayers was held by the Annenberg Foundation. This foundation donated $49,2 million grant to Ayers. The Annenberg Foundation has also highly supported McCain throughout the years (even currently). There is Arnold Weber who served on founding Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and has donated money John McCains current campaign. Then there is David Kearns was a Pro Bono education advisor to Annenberg Foundation and worked for John McCain's 2000 campaign and works currently for his campaign. As one reporter said (seeing part of this thread is about news and reporters) "How many degrees of seperaion does it take to NOT be considered an association to 'known terrorist'".

(the above are facts... search them out and check for yourself, don't take my word for it.)