Rejected?

Friday, August 8, 2008 by CarGuy1 | Discussion: Wallpapers

I submitted a wallpaper last night named "Sunset Sail". I verified it was in my gallery before retiring for the evening. When I checked this morning it is no longer in my gallery and I did nor did I recieve a rejection email.

Can a Mod PM me the reason why it was rejected?

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CarGuy1
Reply #21 Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:55 PM

Gammeldansk
Just curious, but ID's reply that the wall is still in moderation has me confused. I thought that uploads by Journeymen(4) and above were exempt from the moderation process, and Carguy is, I believe, at Master(5) level.

 

Necrothread...this is 2 years old.

They are exempt and I am at Master now.

tazgecko
Reply #22 Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:55 PM

Was he a master 2 years ago?

 

^  to fast

Jafo
Reply #23 Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:17 PM

mtsnoop....

There are means to search the Internet for the pre-existence of an image in order to determine whether a particular person is the originator of that image.

Your yfrog link returns 133 hits which indicates there are at least 133 OTHER instances of that image on the net.

It is therefore extremely likely the original image is not your own, hence its rejection.....

The originator ALSO did not fly up 200 miles and take a 'foto' [sic] as that image will NOT be visible.  The original instance was probably derived from an atlas 'map', but either way the copyright will not be yours to distribute.

Lantec
Reply #24 Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:46 PM

mtsnoop, for what it's worth I thought it was well done and if no IP issues were involved I'd have recommended approval.

mtsnoop
Reply #25 Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:03 PM

just arguing for fun, with little juristical knowledge to backup my statements

i think that i would not harm the copyright of a picture. this a shape given by nature and it can be obtained by various sources. can you copyright the shape of the moon? i don't think so. can you copyright a picture of the moon? well probably, but there is a difference since the photo has much more individual character. have a look at the b/w pic i posted. does this have something so unique and artifical added to the natural coastlines that justifies moral or legal protection? every school boy or girl can recreate it with lttle effort.

 

besides: if you could and would fly 200miles high, you would have to orbit the planet or you wouldn't get there. and because of the low altitude compared to the geostationary orbits, you would be way faster than the normal rotation of the earth which makes it rather likely that you will round the panet, able to take a series of infrared pictures that could be used to create such a picture. but i agree that the the atlas thesis seems more reasonable  either way, i didn't intend to distribute the picture whatever source it may come, but still say that you simply cannot claim copyrights on the coastline shapes of the planet. never the less, after thinking a bit about this while typing i do understand that the operators of this site have to be very careful when it comes even close to copyright abuse

 

mtsnoop
Reply #26 Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:11 PM

Lantec
mtsnoop, for what it's worth I thought it was well done and if no IP issues were involved I'd have recommended approval.

 

thanks, i guess it will stay on my screen for a while and that was the main purpose from the start

 

CarGuy1
Reply #27 Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:25 PM

mtsnoop...here's a couple suggestions that might help...

If you were to obtain the base image for your work from a copyright free source like NASA or Hubble Images and then gave credit to them for having based your work from one of their images, you should be fine.

You could also look for a stock image that you could easily get permission to use.

mtsnoop
Reply #28 Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:44 PM

surely finding the actual owner of the copyrights of the image i used, would be harder than finding a suitable "free" replacement  pretty much everything i did with the world-layer was done with the layer effects, so it is easy to replace the shape with something else. mabe something completely different as well... however the shape of the world has a few not to underestimate benefits: tt includes rather complex parts, but also some large areas where complex textures have some space to unfold. also the shape of the world can be considered as one of the best known abstractions,  but there is basically no manifested message attached to it. without giving it too much thought i think this is rather rare for something so well known. Hm, just thinking out loud

thanks for the suggestions, i'll keep my eyes open

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