MOD REQUEST
Thursday, March 27, 2008 by frankell | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I posted yesterday an hided "control request" about uploaded icons in the Misc. + pngs in OD Galleries called "Firefox Midnight"
the original skin was only re colorized ( a 2 minutes "midnight" color effect)
there is no mistake because the "author" answered this way :
"frankell: I don't know Ken Saunders; this image is a re-worked replica of the image from Mozilla's website. I'm sorry if it appears otherwise."
after 24 hours I found that only the rating was changed from 4 stars to 3 stars !!
Consider that the same "author" also uploaded "Thunderbird Midnight" + "Sunbird Midnight"
I know the 3 programs are open source but the artist who created the official Mozilla graphics deserve some respect !!
I aspect all the skinners support + some action from WC Moderators !!
the original skin was only re colorized ( a 2 minutes "midnight" color effect)
there is no mistake because the "author" answered this way :
"frankell: I don't know Ken Saunders; this image is a re-worked replica of the image from Mozilla's website. I'm sorry if it appears otherwise."
after 24 hours I found that only the rating was changed from 4 stars to 3 stars !!
Consider that the same "author" also uploaded "Thunderbird Midnight" + "Sunbird Midnight"
I know the 3 programs are open source but the artist who created the official Mozilla graphics deserve some respect !!
I aspect all the skinners support + some action from WC Moderators !!
ZubaZ
Reply #2 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:25 PM
Reply #2 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:25 PM
Just because you don't see any activity does not mean there isnt any.
Often it takes time to check things out.
Sometimes what looks like a "rip" is better described as "fan-art"
I suggest taking this to PM with a Mod. Jafo is the best at this sort of thing. There's no need to publicly claim someone ripped another's art. It could be a mistake, it could be that they have permission, it could be that you are just wrong. Handling in privately prevents anyone from being embarrassed.
Wait . .and be patient. Please.
Often it takes time to check things out.
Sometimes what looks like a "rip" is better described as "fan-art"
I suggest taking this to PM with a Mod. Jafo is the best at this sort of thing. There's no need to publicly claim someone ripped another's art. It could be a mistake, it could be that they have permission, it could be that you are just wrong. Handling in privately prevents anyone from being embarrassed.
Wait . .and be patient. Please.
vStyler
Reply #3 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:28 PM
You did so well.. that could have easily come out as fa-rt in Zubosh
Reply #3 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:28 PM
fan-art
You did so well.. that could have easily come out as fa-rt in Zubosh
ZubaZ
Reply #5 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:29 PM
Reply #5 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:29 PM
You did so well.. that could have easily come out as fa-rt in Zubosh
It was. I edited it before you posted. 
frankell
Reply #6 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:42 PM
The "author" already admitted he made a skin "re- worked replica from mozilla's website"
please can you explain what you mean for "fan-art" + PM with Mod
Reply #6 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:42 PM
Sometimes what looks like a "rip" is better described as "fan-art"
I suggest taking this to PM with a Mod. Jafo is the best at this sort of thing. There's no need to publicly claim someone ripped another's art. It could be a mistake, it could be that they have permission, it could be that you are just wrong. Handling in privately prevents anyone from being embarrassed.
I suggest taking this to PM with a Mod. Jafo is the best at this sort of thing. There's no need to publicly claim someone ripped another's art. It could be a mistake, it could be that they have permission, it could be that you are just wrong. Handling in privately prevents anyone from being embarrassed.
The "author" already admitted he made a skin "re- worked replica from mozilla's website"
please can you explain what you mean for "fan-art" + PM with Mod
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #7 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:48 PM
Reply #7 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:48 PM
There is another icon already in the gallery identical to the icon from the Firefox website from another user.
Simply put, if icon A is designed to open program A, then it is fair use. After all, that is what the icon was designed for.
While your principle may be laudable, putting it into action would result in the need to remove the majority of dock icons. Dock icons are just facilitators - they open the program they were designed for, and that is all.
pm = private message. Keeping things private avoids unnecessary public debate and possible false accusations. It is also not good to post such things on skin comments.
ZubaZ
Reply #8 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:50 PM
Reply #8 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:50 PM
PM = Private message. At the bottom of every forum you can find a moderator to PM
"Reworking" can mean many things.
In any case . . this is not the place to debate it. It's being looked into.
"Reworking" can mean many things.
In any case . . this is not the place to debate it. It's being looked into.
ZubaZ
Reply #10 Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:08 PM
Reply #10 Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:08 PM
Actually, it's Zubish
I *KNEW* this post should have been locked. 
frankell
Reply #12 Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:21 PM
I cannot understand why when I uploaded my first animated icon with only "my credits" to the Ken Saunders artwork it was rejected because I needed a written permission
(AW that was the occasion to start a beautiful correspondence with him)
and now all this comprehension for a re-colored skin:
quote from "Skinning Icons" tutorial:
Very important: Recoloring or skinning icons does not change the original author's copyright, nor does it make such icons yours. If you recolor or skin an icon that has not been made by yourself you may not upload or share a recolored icon without the original author's permission.
Reply #12 Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:21 PM
Simply put, if icon A is designed to open program A, then it is fair use. After all, that is what the icon was designed for.
While your principle may be laudable, putting it into action would result in the need to remove the majority of dock icons. Dock icons are just facilitators - they open the program they were designed for, and that is all.
While your principle may be laudable, putting it into action would result in the need to remove the majority of dock icons. Dock icons are just facilitators - they open the program they were designed for, and that is all.
I cannot understand why when I uploaded my first animated icon with only "my credits" to the Ken Saunders artwork it was rejected because I needed a written permission
(AW that was the occasion to start a beautiful correspondence with him)
and now all this comprehension for a re-colored skin:
quote from "Skinning Icons" tutorial:
Very important: Recoloring or skinning icons does not change the original author's copyright, nor does it make such icons yours. If you recolor or skin an icon that has not been made by yourself you may not upload or share a recolored icon without the original author's permission.
frankell
Reply #14 Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:54 PM
Reply #14 Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:54 PM
"It is also not good to post such things on skin comments."
BTW I edited (in a lighter way) my comments on the skin in the external link
BTW I edited (in a lighter way) my comments on the skin in the external link
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Reply #1 Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:23 PM