can anyone solve this?

Saturday, February 23, 2008 by Vampothika | Discussion: Skinning

is it possible to 'lose' the 'all programs' font on the all prog back in vista?.......its cramping meh style......... is it the same as xp where you do 3 images of the all prog back? or is there another solution.... i havent really experimented with it yet, but would luv to know ahead of time.....

 

thanks in advance.

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Fuzzy Logic
Reply #1 Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:31 AM
It uses the same image

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #2 Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:36 AM

Here's a peek at my newly constructed Vista start menu. Plain of course, not elaborate like yours

Wish I could get the damn text colours to match though...   


Vampothika
Reply #3 Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:57 AM
how did you make that search window green? and concerning the all prog back, are you saying i can use the same style as xp and just use 3 images to loose the 'all progs' writing?

Vampothika
Reply #4 Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:58 AM
reinstalling msn.......*grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* finished the start menu, dying to show you...

Vampothika
Reply #5 Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:59 AM
not sure if im allowed to post a pic of it here for you, cause its for the comp......(shrugs)

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #6 Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:55 AM

Keep the pic private for now

The search box background is hidden away in Explorer and IE > Explorer Information Pane > Search and Address Field Background. It consists of five images, the fourth one being the start menu image.

The Start Menu All Programs is exactly the same image as in XP.


vStyler
Reply #7 Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:56 AM
The All progs 'trick' doesn't work the same in Vista.

Also the search box if not carefully designed is another damned if u do damned if u dont area.

vStyler
Reply #8 Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:57 AM
Wish I could get the damn text colours to match though...


Why can't you?

Vampothika
Reply #9 Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:36 PM
The All progs 'trick' doesn't work the same in Vista.Also the search box if not carefully designed is another damned if u do damned if u dont area.



hmm.......okay that sucks.....I have pushed the search box down a bit, it seems to be behaving
itsself.....thankgoodness, so im happy with that. i will try to push the 'all programs' font back if possible.........if not, ill have to rearange my lower right design.....   and.......i REALLY dont wanna go there............

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #10 Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:42 PM
The All Programs works fine for me. I must have a different version of Vista...   

Vampothika
Reply #11 Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:46 PM
The All Programs works fine for me. I must have a different version of Vista...   


i mucked around with the text setting for all progs back, and the font is now sitting where i want it too......before it was colliding with my fancy edge work.......thank GOD that has been sorted out.

new problem.: on search box, why is my little magnifying glass icon not there until i type something in?
is it cause i changed the offset settings to 15 and 15 instead of -1 and -1 ??

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #12 Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:02 PM

Dunno on that one   

Why can't you?

Because I wanted the menu text to be white but Vista takes the all programs and search text from the window text colour.


vStyler
Reply #13 Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:15 PM
Well, i didn't say Vista was a pain in the ass for nothing     

I'm not sure about both of ur problems, I'm in XP.. Will try pop over later and have a loook.

ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #14 Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:36 PM
For the font issues take a look at the ui file and see what it has for system fonts settings. It should only have these settings or you will have problems with colors and changing to a font you want in the start menu. as such it should be here

[SystemFonts]
SystemMenu=0
SYstemMessage=0
SystemStatus=0

0 being the system font to be used

any other entries will cause it to lock the fonts for the start menu to whatever is named here for the font - with also making it impossible to change colors at some parts with SKS.

remove these here if present

SystemIcon=
SystemCaption=
SystemSmallCaption=

that should help with font issues - but one other thing also.
most of the time these fonts do not change in vista without a logoff to see how they are changed.
they can pic their own poison one could say and be perverted to another font listed in the skin without doing so to see the end results.

good luck and if you need other help with vista let me know
WWW Link

SGT  

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #15 Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:57 AM

Found a way round the all programs menu text, but the search box is not so easy.

Neither is changing the text in IE tabs. That is really annoying. In the dark parts of the skin, I have white text with a black border - looks great. Except for IE tabs, they are just black with no option to change the text.

Can this be added manually to the ui file? I'll give it a try later...


vStyler
Reply #16 Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:43 AM
Can this be added manually to the ui file?


No, the IE7 Tabs are hardcoded black, Also the Command Bar in explorer is hardcoded white.

Uneditable , both.

The search bar I believe uses the explorer window font color.. typically black.

vStyler
Reply #17 Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:52 AM
By the way kitty, last I checked the blurring \ trans in Vista follows the default shape of Aero frames.. if you veer too far from that shape u may have problems with folks that turn on blur and trans. Neil may have changed it I dunno, I haven't updated in a while but you may wanna check your frames for inconsistent blurring and shadowing before you go too far.

Alternate Setting
Reply #18 Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:57 AM
Is it down to the individual to keep their own copy of these tips - or is it known that they are being collated elsewhere, the wiki for example?

ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #19 Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:15 AM
Neil may have changed it I dunno, I haven't updated in a while but you may wanna check your frames for inconsistent blurring and shadowing before you go too far.


It was changes a bit John - but it still has the same issue with non aero shapes in vista.That is Vista not WB or SKS which does that.

Is it down to the individual to keep their own copy of these tips - or is it known that they are being collated elsewhere, the wiki for example?


A lot of these tips and a there are lot of just tricks that should be added to the wiki in some form of a tip guide which may help someone else a lot doing skins here in the future.
I've got too many and some are hard to remember even for myself.

SGT  

vStyler
Reply #20 Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:39 AM
That is Vista not WB or SKS which does that.


Well, whoever's fault it is.. its extremely inhibitive when designing frames. One of the main things I talked about when I inititally wrote up my assessment thread on Vista way back when. It's why most, if not all vista skin frames are so plain thus far.

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