Need a bit of help
Monday, December 31, 2007 by Alternate Setting | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Going into the New Year, I'd just like to check out if my posts are seen as anti Stardock or Wincustomize?
I can't quite put my finger on it, it's just started to feel a little awkward to make some posts.
Thanks & Happy New Year
Andy
I can't quite put my finger on it, it's just started to feel a little awkward to make some posts.
Thanks & Happy New Year
Andy
Alternate Setting
Reply #2 Monday, December 31, 2007 2:37 AM
Reply #2 Monday, December 31, 2007 2:37 AM
Hi Bichur @ thanks 
, not the check out thing, I wouldn't make a fuss about that, no drama queen silliness.
The third option looks about right.. in respect to either my original posts or my replies, and I see that sometimes it's about having to stay the course of my threads to see a balance....
I just wondered if my posts were beginning to be seen as being 'unfriendly' towards Stardock or Wincustomize?
, not the check out thing, I wouldn't make a fuss about that, no drama queen silliness.The third option looks about right.. in respect to either my original posts or my replies, and I see that sometimes it's about having to stay the course of my threads to see a balance....
I just wondered if my posts were beginning to be seen as being 'unfriendly' towards Stardock or Wincustomize?
Bichur
Reply #3 Monday, December 31, 2007 3:07 AM
Reply #3 Monday, December 31, 2007 3:07 AM
Looking through your original posts and rereading this:
The secret to enjoying Wincustomize
not anti WC
rereading this: Object Desktop 2008 - it's me again
not really anti SD - but damn long winded
The secret to enjoying Wincustomize
not anti WC
rereading this: Object Desktop 2008 - it's me again
not really anti SD - but damn long winded
Alternate Setting
Reply #4 Monday, December 31, 2007 3:23 AM
rereading this: Object Desktop 2008 - it's me again
not really anti SD - but damn long winded
Cheers Bichur, yeah I get that..... it's about not posting that stuff unless I care, and if I care, I put it out there big time, and hope I get a chance to make the thread work.
Sometimes I'm lucky and get what I need to bring the thread home and round it off - sometimes not so much and I start to feel a bit chilly.
None of it is intended to make others feel uncomfortable or unsupported.
Reply #4 Monday, December 31, 2007 3:23 AM
rereading this: Object Desktop 2008 - it's me again
not really anti SD - but damn long winded
Cheers Bichur, yeah I get that..... it's about not posting that stuff unless I care, and if I care, I put it out there big time, and hope I get a chance to make the thread work.
Sometimes I'm lucky and get what I need to bring the thread home and round it off - sometimes not so much and I start to feel a bit chilly.
None of it is intended to make others feel uncomfortable or unsupported.
Bichur
Reply #5 Monday, December 31, 2007 11:00 AM
didn't do that to me
Reply #5 Monday, December 31, 2007 11:00 AM
None of it is intended to make others feel uncomfortable or unsupported.
didn't do that to me
Philly0381
Reply #6 Monday, December 31, 2007 3:16 PM
Reply #6 Monday, December 31, 2007 3:16 PM
Thoughts and opinions are always good to read. Can't learn anything if you don't. Kind of agree with Bichur, find a way to say it with less words, I know that's a hard thing to do at times.
vStyler
Reply #7 Monday, December 31, 2007 3:39 PM
Reply #7 Monday, December 31, 2007 3:39 PM
Seeking diplomacy is ok until it infringes on personal censorship.. imo
Bichur
Reply #8 Monday, December 31, 2007 10:21 PM
Unless you seek diplomacy from within self
Reply #8 Monday, December 31, 2007 10:21 PM
Seeking diplomacy is ok until it infringes on personal censorship.. imo
Unless you seek diplomacy from within self
Alternate Setting
Reply #9 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 1:23 AM
Reply #9 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 1:23 AM
Cheers guys. I appreciate all of your thoughts and advice.
Jafo
Reply #10 Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:02 PM
Reply #10 Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:02 PM
I just wondered if my posts were beginning to be seen as being 'unfriendly' towards Stardock or Wincustomize?
No, not really. Often they seem to be oppositional just for the sake of being opposing...aka 'Devil's Advocate'. I don't know why anyone really 'needs' to champion such a cause...but it's certainly not 'unfriendly'....simply 'different'....
Nimbin
Reply #11 Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:40 PM
Reply #11 Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:40 PM
Alternate setting, there will always be people who take what you write the wrong way.
I agree with others that at times they do seem rather long winded, but having said that at times you do bring up valid points. and i will fight to the death your right to have your opinion, as i will also fight for others to have the right to disagree with you.
one thing i notice about your posts is that you never get abusive or derogatory and this is to be commended. so keep it up. it's always interesting to see what you will come up with next. happy new year mate
I agree with others that at times they do seem rather long winded, but having said that at times you do bring up valid points. and i will fight to the death your right to have your opinion, as i will also fight for others to have the right to disagree with you.
one thing i notice about your posts is that you never get abusive or derogatory and this is to be commended. so keep it up. it's always interesting to see what you will come up with next. happy new year mate
Bichur
Reply #12 Wednesday, January 2, 2008 10:31 PM
agreed
Reply #12 Wednesday, January 2, 2008 10:31 PM
one thing i notice about your posts is that you never get abusive or derogatory and this is to be commended.
agreed
Alternate Setting
Reply #13 Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:27 AM
Reply #13 Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:27 AM
Cheers all
Hi Paul,
In the rawest sense I'd hope, that wouldn't be the case, although I understand how the 'Devil's Advocate' viewpoint could be formed.
While I do like exploring stuff that hasn't quite resonated with me, I value keeping faith with the whole being relaxed thing and enjoying Wincustomize as a member. It's important to me that I am clear my role as a member, doesn't include the thing of rushing in shouting "That's not the way to do it" & "if I worked here". etc... I don't think that's a healthy, useful or welcome approach to take. .
I mostly post based on information that has appeared at Wincustomize or Stardock. Whether it's something I want to applaud or something I'd like clarification around. I don't for example, feel a need to go looking for information off site, just to help create a 'challenging' scenario for it's own sake.
I think there's only one subject where I've done a specific bit of research off site and used it to directly challenge how something was interpreted, That was non-skinning, and a follow up to a subject that was specifically put to the community for a response. It wasn't something I undertook or applied during the process of the original community discussion. Wherever I feel I may caused an individual member, admin, etc. to feel uncomfortable, it is my practice to follow up with a PM and make myself available to that person for comment. So far I've been fortunate in that folks have been very graceful with their replies.
While I may think at the point of posting that it appears something could be done differently to achieve some additional advantage - I try not to assume my opinion is the only valid one and make sure I'm available for challenge, and where I understand I've been wrong, I make an effort to own that. - I accept that on all counts, I may not always be successful,.
I would hope that if you picked on any post of mine, and asked me why I posted it - I would have a cogent & reasonable reply. I certainly stand ready to answer to that, either here on in a PM.
At the same time, I posted this thread in recognition that just because a thing can be posted, even argued for, it doesn't mean that it necessarily should be, or that my style of posting is the most accessible or even acceptable. A New Years audit seemed to make sense and I'm grateful to have had folks offer feedback - it's been useful.
Andy
(apologise for length of reply - it is my abbreviated version)
I just wondered if my posts were beginning to be seen as being 'unfriendly' towards Stardock or Wincustomize?
No, not really. Often they seem to be oppositional just for the sake of being opposing...aka 'Devil's Advocate'. I don't know why anyone really 'needs' to champion such a cause...but it's certainly not 'unfriendly'....simply 'different'....
Hi Paul,
In the rawest sense I'd hope, that wouldn't be the case, although I understand how the 'Devil's Advocate' viewpoint could be formed.
While I do like exploring stuff that hasn't quite resonated with me, I value keeping faith with the whole being relaxed thing and enjoying Wincustomize as a member. It's important to me that I am clear my role as a member, doesn't include the thing of rushing in shouting "That's not the way to do it" & "if I worked here". etc... I don't think that's a healthy, useful or welcome approach to take. .
I mostly post based on information that has appeared at Wincustomize or Stardock. Whether it's something I want to applaud or something I'd like clarification around. I don't for example, feel a need to go looking for information off site, just to help create a 'challenging' scenario for it's own sake.
I think there's only one subject where I've done a specific bit of research off site and used it to directly challenge how something was interpreted, That was non-skinning, and a follow up to a subject that was specifically put to the community for a response. It wasn't something I undertook or applied during the process of the original community discussion. Wherever I feel I may caused an individual member, admin, etc. to feel uncomfortable, it is my practice to follow up with a PM and make myself available to that person for comment. So far I've been fortunate in that folks have been very graceful with their replies.
While I may think at the point of posting that it appears something could be done differently to achieve some additional advantage - I try not to assume my opinion is the only valid one and make sure I'm available for challenge, and where I understand I've been wrong, I make an effort to own that. - I accept that on all counts, I may not always be successful,.
I would hope that if you picked on any post of mine, and asked me why I posted it - I would have a cogent & reasonable reply. I certainly stand ready to answer to that, either here on in a PM.
At the same time, I posted this thread in recognition that just because a thing can be posted, even argued for, it doesn't mean that it necessarily should be, or that my style of posting is the most accessible or even acceptable. A New Years audit seemed to make sense and I'm grateful to have had folks offer feedback - it's been useful.
Andy
(apologise for length of reply - it is my abbreviated version
)
theAVMAN
Reply #14 Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:17 AM
Reply #14 Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:17 AM
Andy your a good guy !Have no worries !
You are just a LOT faster typer than I.
Harley
(apologise for length of reply - it is my abbreviated version )
You are just a LOT faster typer than I.
Harley
Alternate Setting
Reply #15 Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:50 AM
You are just a LOT faster typer than I.
Harley
Cheers Harley - I'm an ex Sparks (RN) - Defence Teleprinter Network @ such 20yrs ago - gives a fella a speed advantage.
Reply #15 Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:50 AM
You are just a LOT faster typer than I.
Harley
Cheers Harley - I'm an ex Sparks (RN) - Defence Teleprinter Network @ such 20yrs ago - gives a fella a speed advantage.
PoSmedley
Reply #16 Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:06 PM
I am glad you brought this up. Lately, you've been really getting on my nerves with your posts. It's not that they are 'anti' anything...I think it's just 'you'. So, I am arranging to have a Troll Thumper from the Order of the Black Dragon (It has to be a Thumper of some rank and experience because of your standing in the community) to come to your house on February 1st (Troll Thumping Day) and Thump you properly. Hopefully, this will straighten you out or, at the very least, just make 'me' feel better. I still consider you one of me BFF and hope it won't come between us. It's not even really 'you', as much as you just left yourself open for this to happen by posting this thread. So, I guess if I had to say I 'had' a problem with your posts, I would have to say "No. Until I saw THIS one."
*note to Bichur- That hat is gonna 'crunch' real nice when a Thumper hits it.
Reply #16 Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:06 PM
I can't quite put my finger on it, it's just started to feel a little awkward to make some posts.
I am glad you brought this up. Lately, you've been really getting on my nerves with your posts. It's not that they are 'anti' anything...I think it's just 'you'. So, I am arranging to have a Troll Thumper from the Order of the Black Dragon (It has to be a Thumper of some rank and experience because of your standing in the community) to come to your house on February 1st (Troll Thumping Day) and Thump you properly. Hopefully, this will straighten you out or, at the very least, just make 'me' feel better. I still consider you one of me BFF and hope it won't come between us. It's not even really 'you', as much as you just left yourself open for this to happen by posting this thread. So, I guess if I had to say I 'had' a problem with your posts, I would have to say "No. Until I saw THIS one."
*note to Bichur- That hat is gonna 'crunch' real nice when a Thumper hits it.
Alternate Setting
Reply #17 Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:54 PM
Reply #17 Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:54 PM
Hehe, I should have known - a fella starts a train of thought, and there's always some smart alec waiting at the rear to kick him in the caboose 
Cheers Po'dude - be well my friend.
Cheers Po'dude - be well my friend.
Koasati
Reply #18 Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:13 PM
Reply #18 Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:13 PM
I actually enjoy reading your comments. Yes, you can be a bit 'long-winded', but you have a way with words that I find pleasurable. I don't recall reading anything you've written that struck me as anti-wc/sd.
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Reply #1 Monday, December 31, 2007 2:24 AM
which way do you mean?
if your posts are seen as anti SD/WC you're gonna check out?
you're checking to see which anti (SD vs WC) has more weight?
you're just checking to see if the posts are anti?
original post? or replies to posts?