Vista SP!: Possibly Before Xmas??
Tuesday, December 4, 2007 by starkers | Discussion: Industry
The good people over at Neowin.net have the story up.... that Vista SP1 RC1 may be released just prior to Christmas. Get all the details at: WWW Link
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ALMonty
Reply #2 Tuesday, December 4, 2007 6:06 PM
Reply #2 Tuesday, December 4, 2007 6:06 PM
My Vista is working excellent right now. I would be afraid to install the update especially since it seems like their hurrying up to put it out.
Phoon
Reply #3 Tuesday, December 4, 2007 6:13 PM
Reply #3 Tuesday, December 4, 2007 6:13 PM
I would be careful of a RC as well. Unless you are very savvy with Vista, wait till RTM.
kona0197
Reply #6 Thursday, December 6, 2007 5:36 PM
Reply #6 Thursday, December 6, 2007 5:36 PM
SP1 still can't fix a bad reputation spread by word of mouth...
starkers
Reply #7 Friday, December 7, 2007 12:22 AM
Well I suggest you retract all the bad stuff that you said about it, then... you should oughta know by now that rumours will ruin a reputation... that when mud is thrown, some will inevitably stick.
Thanks to some members of the press, Vista's reputation was pretty much sunk/tarnished before it was released... and being many believe everything they read in the paper, it was always going to be an uphill battle for MS to clean off the mud that stuck.
Reply #7 Friday, December 7, 2007 12:22 AM
SP1 still can't fix a bad reputation spread by word of mouth...
Well I suggest you retract all the bad stuff that you said about it, then... you should oughta know by now that rumours will ruin a reputation... that when mud is thrown, some will inevitably stick.
Thanks to some members of the press, Vista's reputation was pretty much sunk/tarnished before it was released... and being many believe everything they read in the paper, it was always going to be an uphill battle for MS to clean off the mud that stuck.
kona0197
Reply #8 Friday, December 7, 2007 1:22 AM
Reply #8 Friday, December 7, 2007 1:22 AM
Thanks for the advice Starkers. I've said what I've said. I already had a bad reputation before Vista remember?
Actually there were and still are many of us that hoped or hope that Vista would or will break MS.
Just an opinion...
Actually there were and still are many of us that hoped or hope that Vista would or will break MS.
Just an opinion...
Excalpius
Reply #9 Friday, December 7, 2007 1:49 AM
Reply #9 Friday, December 7, 2007 1:49 AM
Um, Starkers, Vista had negative press about its release delays before it came out. The bad press is has earned by
A) being released before it was ready
coming in a ridiculous 8 artificially segmented versions
C) for being priced ludicrously given its lack of obvious end user benefits
D) etc. etc.
was well earned AFTER it was released.
And given how badly build the most recent internal SP1 screwed up beta tester systems worldwide just last month, I'm thinking it might NOT be a good idea to try this RC just yet.
And let's be clear, I LOVE what my system looks like and runs like with Vista...when it's working and running like it should.
A) being released before it was ready
coming in a ridiculous 8 artificially segmented versionsC) for being priced ludicrously given its lack of obvious end user benefits
D) etc. etc.
was well earned AFTER it was released.
And given how badly build the most recent internal SP1 screwed up beta tester systems worldwide just last month, I'm thinking it might NOT be a good idea to try this RC just yet.
And let's be clear, I LOVE what my system looks like and runs like with Vista...when it's working and running like it should.
starkers
Reply #10 Friday, December 7, 2007 7:16 AM
So what! You're not alone there... still picking off little pieces of mud from the last lot of shenanigans I found myself in. Just as well, then, I gave up the grog and related mischief six or so years ago... otherwise my dry cleaning bill would be enormous.
I don't see that happening any time soon... hell is more likely to freeze over first, me thinks.
Yeah, I know... Microsoft didn't do itself any favours regarding Vista's release, nor with its pricing and segmented issues, either, but then there were some commentators and self-proclaimed experts who set about painting Vista with a much blacker name than it deserved.
Fortunately, having had a good experience with the Vista betas, I liked the OS well enough to dismiss all the anti-hype and make my own evaluation. I purchased Vista Ultimate when it was released and I'm quite happy with its performance... no major complaints so far.
From what I've been told (by a little dickie bird at MS Sydney), this release has been much refined since the earlier betas and is quite close to the final package. Is it perfect?? Probably not, given how many hardware/software configurations MS has to try cater for, but I'm hearing there are noticeable performance and stability improvements with this RC version due out next week...supposedly it'll hit the servers on Monday, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I mean, MS doesn't wanna be accused of releasing it into the wild too soon, so they might wait 'til Tuesday.
Reply #10 Friday, December 7, 2007 7:16 AM
I already had a bad reputation before Vista remember?
So what! You're not alone there... still picking off little pieces of mud from the last lot of shenanigans I found myself in. Just as well, then, I gave up the grog and related mischief six or so years ago... otherwise my dry cleaning bill would be enormous.
Actually there were and still are many of us that hoped or hope that Vista would or will break MS.
I don't see that happening any time soon... hell is more likely to freeze over first, me thinks.
Um, Starkers, Vista had negative press about its release delays before it came out.
Yeah, I know... Microsoft didn't do itself any favours regarding Vista's release, nor with its pricing and segmented issues, either, but then there were some commentators and self-proclaimed experts who set about painting Vista with a much blacker name than it deserved.
Fortunately, having had a good experience with the Vista betas, I liked the OS well enough to dismiss all the anti-hype and make my own evaluation. I purchased Vista Ultimate when it was released and I'm quite happy with its performance... no major complaints so far.
And given how badly build the most recent internal SP1 screwed up beta tester systems worldwide just last month, I'm thinking it might NOT be a good idea to try this RC just yet.
From what I've been told (by a little dickie bird at MS Sydney), this release has been much refined since the earlier betas and is quite close to the final package. Is it perfect?? Probably not, given how many hardware/software configurations MS has to try cater for, but I'm hearing there are noticeable performance and stability improvements with this RC version due out next week...supposedly it'll hit the servers on Monday, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I mean, MS doesn't wanna be accused of releasing it into the wild too soon, so they might wait 'til Tuesday.
David G Shaw
Reply #11 Friday, December 7, 2007 8:31 AM
Reply #11 Friday, December 7, 2007 8:31 AM
Download the SP1 RC1 last night. Installed it this morning and it does seem to br running much faster then before. However it is still a RC1 service pack and time will tell. Will continue to beat on it daily and see what breaks.
Snowman
Reply #12 Friday, December 7, 2007 8:32 AM
Reply #12 Friday, December 7, 2007 8:32 AM
-sigh-
Here we go again....
For crying out loud, leave it alone people - this is getting boring real fast....
Gideon MacLeish
Reply #13 Friday, December 7, 2007 8:37 AM
Yeah, I can see how talking about personal computing on a forum for personal computing would be pretty boring!
Next we might talk about (gasp!) 64 bit processing!
Reply #13 Friday, December 7, 2007 8:37 AM
For crying out loud, leave it alone people - this is getting boring real fast....
Yeah, I can see how talking about personal computing on a forum for personal computing would be pretty boring!
Next we might talk about (gasp!) 64 bit processing!
Snowman
Reply #14 Friday, December 7, 2007 8:44 AM
Reply #14 Friday, December 7, 2007 8:44 AM
Gideon - the boring part is that people keeps repeating themselves, over and over again - in different threads.
We already know most peoples opinion on Vista - why bring it up again, whenever someone makes a post about Vista
We already know most peoples opinion on Vista - why bring it up again, whenever someone makes a post about Vista
starkers
Reply #15 Friday, December 7, 2007 10:25 AM
So where was that?? It's not supposed to be released until the 10th, next Monday!
C'mon, Snowman, the tread was started as a community service for those with Vista and an interest in SP1... what's wrong with that???
Reply #15 Friday, December 7, 2007 10:25 AM
Download the SP1 RC1 last night.
So where was that?? It's not supposed to be released until the 10th, next Monday!
For crying out loud, leave it alone people - this is getting boring real fast....
C'mon, Snowman, the tread was started as a community service for those with Vista and an interest in SP1... what's wrong with that???
Phoon
Reply #16 Friday, December 7, 2007 11:21 AM
Reply #16 Friday, December 7, 2007 11:21 AM
the thread was going OK and was not a vista opinion thread until #6 started it all.
ALMonty
Reply #17 Friday, December 7, 2007 11:49 AM
Reply #17 Friday, December 7, 2007 11:49 AM
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Things to know before you download
If you have a prior version of SP1 beta installed, you must uninstall it prior to installing SP1 RC.
Microsoft does not recommend installing this software on primary or mission critical systems.
Windows Vista SP1 Release Candidate is time-limited software.
Support is through self-help and peer support via the Windows Vista SP1 forum.
Additional information about the above items and others. Be sure to review.
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This is from the Microsoft website. There's more here WWW Link
Things to know before you download
If you have a prior version of SP1 beta installed, you must uninstall it prior to installing SP1 RC.
Microsoft does not recommend installing this software on primary or mission critical systems.
Windows Vista SP1 Release Candidate is time-limited software.
Support is through self-help and peer support via the Windows Vista SP1 forum.
Additional information about the above items and others. Be sure to review.
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This is from the Microsoft website. There's more here WWW Link
tubster
Reply #18 Friday, December 7, 2007 1:09 PM
Reply #18 Friday, December 7, 2007 1:09 PM
Just my 2cents.
1) I have been ruuning vista for nearly three years, personally I could never go back to XP. My 3 computers running vista have been almost running flawlessly, even before the RTM release last year.
2) I also have been running SP1 since the first beta release in September of this year.
The only problems I have run in to have been with Stardock Software. DesktopX is not compatable with SP1. Even on the latest build this week.
3) For those that like to flame MS go buy a MAC.
1) I have been ruuning vista for nearly three years, personally I could never go back to XP. My 3 computers running vista have been almost running flawlessly, even before the RTM release last year.
2) I also have been running SP1 since the first beta release in September of this year.
The only problems I have run in to have been with Stardock Software. DesktopX is not compatable with SP1. Even on the latest build this week.
3) For those that like to flame MS go buy a MAC.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, December 4, 2007 5:55 PM