Weekly Poll: Site Sponsorships
An incredibly important poll for subscribers!
Monday, December 3, 2007 by Zoomba | Discussion: WinCustomize News
This week's poll is a little different from what we usually talk about. This week it's all about how we support and fund the site. Currently we support WinCustomize primarily through subscriptions and web ads. However we have repeatedly turned away the much more profitable ads because they're just so darned annoying. We know that at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how well an ad pays if it drives users away. That's why you'll never see pop-ups, hover ads etc on WinCustomize, even though they pay extremely well.
That said, we are still looking to find additional revenue sources, especially as the cost of the site continues to climb. One of the ways is through a "Site Sponsorship" program.
A "Site Sponsorship" is basically where a company decides to sponsor WinCustomize for a month or more at a time. They would get something akin to the image to your left as a static image placement on the site. In the case of the example here, it would be a box added to the WinCustomize sidebar. It's not a typical ad. It doesn't bounce, flash, play sounds or in any way impact your browsing. It's merely a logo placement, perhaps with a brief text message that would be a part of the site.
There's a catch though (there's always a catch). If we were to secure these sponsorships, they would have to be displayed to ALL users, even subscribers.
That's where today's poll comes in. For all of you who are subscribers, or who are thinking of subscribing. Would a sponsorship placement like what I've described be acceptable to you?
Of course, you'd get something in return for such a placement. Sponsorships like this one, run over the course of the year, would directly fund projects like new Subscriber Suites. We could actually afford to hire skinners from Stardock Design to draw up and build several Subscriber Suites in the course of the year.
So, if you were to get additional subscriber suites, would that make the sponsorship placement more acceptable?
Go ahead and vote. We'll tally it up next Monday. And please use the comments here to discuss the proposal, and what would make the addition acceptable to you if it were to happen.
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Reply #22 Monday, December 3, 2007 6:47 PM
Reply #23 Monday, December 3, 2007 6:49 PM
Reply #24 Monday, December 3, 2007 6:54 PM
Same here.
Reply #25 Monday, December 3, 2007 7:08 PM
I concur with pretty much everything Jafo said, above.
Anything that keeps this great site up & running is fine by me.
If the sponsors graphic is in the sidebar, that's fine ...regardless of where it's placed there. I think thats the right place for it.
So, I vote two thumbs up...
Reply #26 Monday, December 3, 2007 7:12 PM
Take a look at sport most of it is sponsored and most of the time you don't even notice it's just part of it now days logos are there but unless it is of interest to you and a product you want, you blank it. So the money is coming into sport in a big way as firms are just happy to have their name coupled with whatever sport/team it is.
So logo or something say at top of the page would be there to be seen but unless you were interested in that company you would soon just accept it being there without it having a bad effect on the way you viewed the site.
Reply #28 Monday, December 3, 2007 8:36 PM
If it helps secure the future of the site and improves quality....it's a great idea......sounds like you've organised it to be tastefully done.......look forward to seeing the projects you come up with the with extra $.....
Reply #29 Monday, December 3, 2007 9:36 PM
Cool~!
SGT
Reply #30 Monday, December 3, 2007 9:37 PM
When I saw Zoomba's post I thought there would at least be a minority of folks who would start screaming about how they were promised no ads if they subscribed.
I never understood how WC could be self-sufficient with teh subscription model it uses. Not if what I suspect are the number of subscribers vs registered users.
Well thought out plan Zoomba.
And everyone that's posted so far, you guys are great!
Reply #31 Monday, December 3, 2007 9:43 PM
And I think we don't credit you enough for this. This web site runs very smooth and has always looked great. As times progress and the money gets tighter, we all welcome a better way to manage these things that allow all visitors to enjoy the content provided. Wincustomize has always been top-notch. The progress made over the years has been phenomenal. Props to you and all the Wincustomize staff for the great work done here.
Reply #32 Monday, December 3, 2007 9:52 PM
Reply #33 Monday, December 3, 2007 10:03 PM
uh-oh....I guess I'll be a slight minority.
I'm reminded of cable tv. Before CATV we had broadcast and you were stuck with the major networks and "family" style programming, BUT it was 100% free. We were exposed to 5-6 minutes of comercials during a 1/2 hour show and we had PBS if we couldn't handle it. In the beginning of CATV we got signed up because of better programming (movies mostly) AND it's "COMMERCIAL FREE".....anyone remember that? Today there's something like 10+ minutes of commercial for every 1/2 hour of broadcasting and that's when the show isn't 100% commercial. It was several years before the first cable network started slipping in ads. If I remember correctly it was one of Ted Turner's networks.
I've been telling those I know looking to move to satellite radio that it's just a matter of time before "some" commercials show up. Then more and more over time while "free" radio deteriorates due to listenership being lost and before you know it we're all having to pay for something we got for free originally.
I'll say this, as long as it's non-intrusive and there's no "active" text I can live with it. I just won't be surprised if in a year or two it's "well it's only a banner"
Reply #34 Monday, December 3, 2007 10:07 PM
That being said, it wouldn't bother me in the least to have sponsors. the joy of it is there are enough libraries on the site to dedicate one library to each sponsor. I have to agree with others though, it wouldn't be a good thing if the sponsors had any say in the content of the site.
I'll trust ya'll to be wise in your choices, ya haven't let me down yet.
Reply #35 Monday, December 3, 2007 10:24 PM
For example, I loved both the Asus and Alienware themes. I'm pretty sure they got a huge amount of advertising off them- it may be indirect and less visible in the bottom line, but it is probably more effective than a banner on a site which a lot of people dont even see anyway (adblock etc).
Sell your strengths.
Reply #37 Monday, December 3, 2007 11:29 PM
The bottom line is...you gotta do what you gotta do...and hope it doesn't come back to bite you in the ass.
Not to sure about the "Anything" that supports the site though. Might want to re-word that.
As long as its "near" the top and not the first thing you see. Nothing more annoying than going to a site and having to scroll down to find the actual contents of the site.
Reply #38 Tuesday, December 4, 2007 12:07 AM
This part is 100% due to the work of our web dev team that I named already in the thread. When you sit down and look at the site, click a link and it actually works. When you upload or download a skin. When you post a comment on the forums or rate a skin. That is entirely the hard work of our developers. I can't take credit for that.
Me? I'm the content side of things. They make it work, I work with you all to fill it with interesting stuff. News, articles, forum policing, contest, promotions etc. I work to make the money adds up in the end, and then take that money to get new and better stuff for the site. Suites, more frequent site maintenance etc.
And like I said, I do it with the help of people like Island Dog, Jafo and the moderator team.
To the concerns that this may be a stepping stone to more and more ads for subscribers as time goes on. That's not how this is going to go down. If nothing else will calm that fear, let me say this... I browse the site on the same subscriber settings as every other subscriber. Everything that I have placed on the site that impacts subscribers, I have to live with too. So does Brad, KarmaGirl, T-Man, Jafo and everyone else who have been with the site forever. Do you think a single one of us wants ads getting in our way?
What? You think the Moderators Swimsuit Calendar is a bad idea?
Reply #39 Tuesday, December 4, 2007 12:26 AM
There will be hell to pay for it that comes out before I get my 2008 Autograph Winky Calendar
Reply #40 Tuesday, December 4, 2007 2:10 AM
Basically because I've learned that what will be - will be.
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Reply #21 Monday, December 3, 2007 6:34 PM
I would like to see Who in the PC community is willing to support skinning and desktop customization.
As long as the Logo's are not intrusive and detract from the site im all for it....