i WANT this resolved.......
Friday, November 16, 2007 by Vampothika | Discussion: Community
when does a community skin become a community skin when the community is not involved? Where was the post to inivite skinners for harmoney and whitefire2?
there wasnt a post, it was created by maxstyles crew (and maybe a secret select few from the community)
and yet, suddenly its a community skin?
to me, a community skin is when someone posts they want to make a community skin, and people are allowed to volunteer their services to the skin. The WHOLE community knows about it....(unless they live under a rock) its not a secret and suddenly released as community skin.
yet again i ask, why is maxstyles skins being promoted as community skins when its clear that they are not.
This isnt a flame against Maxstyles.....I just am totally confused.........
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Reply #42 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:21 PM
The 'original' definition of 'community skin'...again that which was first...those by Crumbut ... they were big....very big...and thus actually necessitated there be several skinners involved.
The concept of 'community skin' was all about it being a group effort from members of the community.
The important distinction was/is 'group effort' as distinct from 'one skinner doing all facets of a suite'.
Is there some 'law' inplace that a formal tendering process is required for a suite to be deemed 'community'...or for that matter must a 'community' skin be free?
I don't think so....though in the latter one hopes a commercial community effort's 'profits' are shared equitably amongst all participants....but that too is something to determine between parties involved....those not included in the process need not debate the particulars....it's irrelevant.
As I mentioned already....any community effort will become a 'closed group' once all positions are filled...so if one is the second WA skinner to volunteer they will miss out...unless there is perhaps an option for creating multi vers of a proggy's skin...though that will dilute the cohesion of the 'suite'...
Reply #43 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:23 PM
Jafo must be invisible....
Reply #44 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:24 PM
So what?... what does it matter to you?
waiting for the ONE person I left out.
Reply #45 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:25 PM
These are forums to discuss things. If you don't have a stake in the issue, please, don't butt in.
It matters to Kitty. That's good enough reason to discuss the matter.
Something V said caused me to look at it a little different. I'm not going to even try to explain but I do understand now why V feels it is a communty project. Credit was shared by the community.
Reply #47 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:26 PM
Harmony WB is not free and is not a community skin
Harmony Suite was made by some people from this community and some that are also members of maxstyles
all others elements in this suite are free
Thanks Quentin for clearing it up. I thought The whole thing had to be bought.
Reply #48 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:27 PM
Reply #49 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:28 PM
and congratulations kitty , you lost a friend(s) and gained the meaning of community, how proud you must be.
Reply #51 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:31 PM
I participated in the latest Halloween community skin put together by AVman (kudos to you!) and, as kitty points out, it was announced in the forums and solicited any and all to volunteer.
A few years back I participated in another skin suite put together by select members of Skinartistry. It wasn't announced in the WC forums or the SA forums for that matter as I recall. The 'recruiting', if it can even be called that, consisted of a few skinners communicating by MSN or email deciding to get together and create a suite.
Both were 'community' skins in the sense of being created by members of the skinning community and being free to all.
I don't agree that 'for a fee' skins should qualify as what most people think of as a community skin, but free certainly should qualify regardless of their genesis.
Reply #52 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:32 PM
A community suite is one made by various community members. It is not one that "everyone" was invited to participate in. If several community members band together to make a suite, no matter how they get together, it is a community suite.
Reply #53 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:33 PM
Reply #54 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:35 PM
John if I want to ask a question about community skins, what is wrong with that?
Reply #55 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:36 PM
From THE Big Cheese. You have your answer in laymens terms from someone with authority to give it to you. Resolved.
and lastly.. you asked.. while dragging Maxstyles through as much mud as you could while making out like were secretly banding together to screw everyone over.
Not so.
Reply #56 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:42 PM
Are you guys sure this isn't some elaborate scheme to promote Maxstyles?
(insert paranoid smily here)
Reply #57 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:44 PM
Kitty.....
Rather than 'just' me explaining things in layman's terms....Karma has done so....#52
My 'role' here on Wincustomize.com is called 'Community Manager' [sounds spiffy....hours are horrid].. so maybe I'm the one to 'define' "community skin".
Community Skin n. A group of skins [or suite] created by no less than TWO individual skinners intended to be a 'set' in appearance and style, sharing origins/images.
Note....there is no reference to 'free' or 'fee' or public pre-notification/tendering.
Dynamics/logistics/practicality will typically DEMAND that were a proposed Community Skin to be as diverse/huge as the original ones years ago there really would NEED to be a public advertising for skinners to enlist their services....but with 'smaller' suites that's not always going to be needed.
Jafo hopes this helps ....
Reply #58 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:44 PM
(insert paranoid smily here)
[/quote]Bwhahahaha
Don't forget.. its invite only. 
Reply #60 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:47 PM
I'm interested NT, How was credit shared?
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Reply #41 Friday, November 16, 2007 7:21 PM
okay.......i appologize for my mistake.