New PC building help!
Sunday, November 11, 2007 by TYCUS | Discussion: Personal Computing
hi everyone, today i started to build my new pc from zero and i'm done but when i try to start it, it didn't do it, it just start to make 5 short beeps and then other two or three long beeps, i thought that it was just little error but then when i try to restart it again the pc make the same noice again, the only clue to me was that the video card was making an error(i search on the net for the meaning of theat noice), but when i opened my pc and see what was the problem i didn't see anything relevant at all! the two dvd drivers where connected in the correct way(the DVD player was placed as the master driver and the DVD driver was placed as the slave driver), the power cables were placed in the correct way in all the drivers(i also check the two power cables that are connected to the motherboard and both where placed in the correct place). After checking every single detail i try to start again my pc, but now i didn't heard any sound and the monitor just didn't react(yes, it was ON...).
i follow all the guides from all the drivers...., am i missing something?
this are the drivers i'm using:
>Gateway 19" HD Widescreen Display
>Motherboard Intel DP35DP
>Power supply 750W
>Intel Quad Core 2 - 2.4GHZ
>2 DDR2 800Mhz 1.8V (1gb each)
>Video Card: Fatality 8600 (fanless)
>LG DVD Player
>Samsung DVD-RW
>Multi-memory cards reader
>One Sata2 HD 500Gb
all of this in a NZXT Lexa pc case.
any idea? a clue of what might be the problem?
PLEASE HELP
i follow all the guides from all the drivers...., am i missing something?
this are the drivers i'm using:
>Gateway 19" HD Widescreen Display
>Motherboard Intel DP35DP
>Power supply 750W
>Intel Quad Core 2 - 2.4GHZ
>2 DDR2 800Mhz 1.8V (1gb each)
>Video Card: Fatality 8600 (fanless)
>LG DVD Player
>Samsung DVD-RW
>Multi-memory cards reader
>One Sata2 HD 500Gb
all of this in a NZXT Lexa pc case.
any idea? a clue of what might be the problem?
PLEASE HELP
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kona0197
Reply #22 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:12 PM
Reply #22 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:12 PM
How would the BIOS know if thermal grease was applied or not guys? Come on...
PurrBall
Reply #23 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:19 PM
How would the BIOS know if thermal grease was applied or not guys? Come on...
It knows whether there is bacon or a processor there.
Reply #23 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:19 PM
How would the BIOS know if thermal grease was applied or not guys? Come on...
It knows whether there is bacon or a processor there.
Murex
Reply #24 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:22 PM
Reply #24 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:22 PM
There should have been a strip of thermal protection on the back of the heat sink if it was the factory heat sink. If you used an after market heat sink you need to apply a thermal barrier like artic silver or another brand. If you set the heat sink metal to metal with the CPU the CPU will burn out. Look on the back of the CPU Does it look burned? Also when using a thermal past it only takes a small drop in the middle of the CPU as it will spread out when you fasten the heat sink down.
Murex
Reply #25 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:24 PM
Because it can smell the CPU cooking.. I hope you where kidding when you said that because You will be in trouble if you build a system
Reply #25 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:24 PM
How would the BIOS know if thermal grease was applied or not guys? Come on...
Because it can smell the CPU cooking.. I hope you where kidding when you said that because You will be in trouble if you build a system
killajosh
Reply #26 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:45 PM
Reply #26 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:45 PM
Most aftermarket CPUs come with some kind of thermal protector. My Pentium came with a lil tube of it..... my friend Shane's AMD came with some too...
kona0197
Reply #27 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:58 PM
I was just tryuing to point out that a MB can't really tell if you applied the grease is all. Yes it can tell if the CPU is cooking and I know all about that. I build systems all the time. Last time one beeped at me the AGP card wasn't seated correctly.
Reply #27 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:58 PM
Because it can smell the CPU cooking.. I hope you where kidding when you said that because You will be in trouble if you build a system
I was just tryuing to point out that a MB can't really tell if you applied the grease is all. Yes it can tell if the CPU is cooking and I know all about that. I build systems all the time. Last time one beeped at me the AGP card wasn't seated correctly.
killajosh
Reply #28 Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:22 PM
Reply #28 Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:22 PM
When I installed my Pentium 4, my motherboard beeped at me cuz I hadn't fastened the fan over the processor completely. Such a harsh sounding little beep too....
yrag
Reply #29 Monday, November 12, 2007 12:47 AM
Reply #29 Monday, November 12, 2007 12:47 AM
Lack of paste on an Intel will shut the processor down before it fries. If there's none there....put it there. It sounds like a short of the MB. Take it out and make sure nothing metal in the case is hitting it from underneath. When you put it back in, make sure the screws are centered and not touching any road maps on the board.
As an aside: there's a lot of expensive components you're putting together. It appears you missed the chapter in the manual about paste....makes me wonder what else you missed. Re-read the entire manual(s) before another mistake takes the whole machine out.
As an aside: there's a lot of expensive components you're putting together. It appears you missed the chapter in the manual about paste....makes me wonder what else you missed. Re-read the entire manual(s) before another mistake takes the whole machine out.
TYCUS
Reply #30 Monday, November 12, 2007 1:25 AM
i would like to do so.., but the only guide that came with the motherboard was a huge page illustrated with very simple details about the install process(like in one part that it shows two drawing, one of an agp video card crossed in red like saying "this one no" and a pci-express with a green mark like saying "this one yes", it was like common you must be kidding!!!)....
...that's why said that i had to search on the net for more info about the instalation process, i do missed that part, but well, it's my first time.
Reply #30 Monday, November 12, 2007 1:25 AM
Re-read the entire manual(s) before another mistake takes the whole machine out.
i would like to do so.., but the only guide that came with the motherboard was a huge page illustrated with very simple details about the install process(like in one part that it shows two drawing, one of an agp video card crossed in red like saying "this one no" and a pci-express with a green mark like saying "this one yes", it was like common you must be kidding!!!)....
...that's why said that i had to search on the net for more info about the instalation process, i do missed that part, but well, it's my first time.
yrag
Reply #31 Monday, November 12, 2007 1:34 AM
Well....you have to lose your cherry sometime....
Go to the basics: Take everything out (or disconnect) and start it up with the CPU, boot drive, one memory stick (in the slot closest to the CPU) and the video card. Try and boot into the bios to set defaults. If you get beeps and no screen, count the beeps. If no beeps and no power up light, it's a short. Take the video card out and try to power it up. No go, disconnect the boot drive. Try it again. Still nothing, swap the memory sticks (and any slot). Finally, pull the mouse and then the keyboard. You need the keyboard to get into the bios, but you have to eliminate it as a problem first.
One last thing. Look at that HUGE picture (or the board itself) and make sure your front panel connections are on correctly. A reversed front panel power plug will cause a machine to do exactly what your's is doing.
Reply #31 Monday, November 12, 2007 1:34 AM
it's my first time.
Well....you have to lose your cherry sometime....
Go to the basics: Take everything out (or disconnect) and start it up with the CPU, boot drive, one memory stick (in the slot closest to the CPU) and the video card. Try and boot into the bios to set defaults. If you get beeps and no screen, count the beeps. If no beeps and no power up light, it's a short. Take the video card out and try to power it up. No go, disconnect the boot drive. Try it again. Still nothing, swap the memory sticks (and any slot). Finally, pull the mouse and then the keyboard. You need the keyboard to get into the bios, but you have to eliminate it as a problem first.
One last thing. Look at that HUGE picture (or the board itself) and make sure your front panel connections are on correctly. A reversed front panel power plug will cause a machine to do exactly what your's is doing.
killajosh
Reply #32 Monday, November 12, 2007 2:22 AM
Spare no expenses on the installation guide!
I would have expected more out of Intel. But I use ASUS so what do I know? 
Reply #32 Monday, November 12, 2007 2:22 AM
but the only guide that came with the motherboard was a huge page illustrated with very simple details about the install process
Spare no expenses on the installation guide!
I would have expected more out of Intel. But I use ASUS so what do I know?
BoXXi
Reply #33 Monday, November 12, 2007 4:15 AM
Reply #33 Monday, November 12, 2007 4:15 AM
Interesting........ Tycus, listen to Yrag...... he is THE MAN when it comes to this kind of thing.
(Hi Yrag..... I hope you're ok sir.)
(Hi Yrag..... I hope you're ok sir.)
TYCUS
Reply #34 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:16 AM
Reply #34 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:16 AM
too much ram?
it seems that the problem was one of the ram sticks..., i could record the noice that my pc was doing last night and play it to one of the geeks(geek is my respectful way to call a person who knows like everything about computers) from my job..., and he told me without any second thought that it might be one of my ram moduls...., so i got back to home and open my pc and take the second ram stick(A2) and the computer worked! IT WAS ALIVE!!!!! now...., i have a new problem, a simple one, but it's a problem..., since the motherboard is an Intel DP35DP it only have one IDE connector(and this one i use it for the DVD player and the DVD-RW), so now i need to eather get a USB Floppy or disconect of the DVD's...., maybe i should just get off the DVD's for a moment until this thing get started
it seems that the problem was one of the ram sticks..., i could record the noice that my pc was doing last night and play it to one of the geeks(geek is my respectful way to call a person who knows like everything about computers) from my job..., and he told me without any second thought that it might be one of my ram moduls...., so i got back to home and open my pc and take the second ram stick(A2) and the computer worked! IT WAS ALIVE!!!!! now...., i have a new problem, a simple one, but it's a problem..., since the motherboard is an Intel DP35DP it only have one IDE connector(and this one i use it for the DVD player and the DVD-RW), so now i need to eather get a USB Floppy or disconect of the DVD's...., maybe i should just get off the DVD's for a moment until this thing get started
kona0197
Reply #35 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:36 AM
Reply #35 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:36 AM
You still use a floppy drive? Well I still have one too. I wanted to point out that the floppy cable and IDE cables that plug into your DVD drives are different so leave the DVD drives plugged in.
Jafo
Reply #36 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:56 AM
Reply #36 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:56 AM
TYCUS...this is comment #36 .....if you look up....comment #8 was the first mention of 'faulty ram'.
I guess you missed that....
Corky_O
Reply #37 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:46 AM
Reply #37 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:46 AM
Tycus,
Here are some links (you may already have this stuff - but, just in case):
MoBo specs: http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/dp35dp/
Memory specs: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dp35dp/sb/cs-026645.htm
Manual: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dp35dp/sb/CS-026646.htm
Support page: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dp35dp/
You will want to populate (install) memory into the DIMM '0' slots (blue slots) first with the same size and specification memory sticks (RAM) to enable dual-channel operation - which is preferrable. The manual (linked above) has all the information you need to work with the motherboard and components that you install on it.
For future reference - the instructions for the installation of the motherboard into the case are included with the case (although they tend to be very simplistic).
Murex is correct in that Intel boxed processors (Core2 Duo and newer) include compound on the base of the included heat-sink. If you decide to use 'Arctic Silver 5' (which I also use) - it has been indicated that this will void the warranty on the Intel CPU (something to do with the molecular bonding to the CPU cover plate). Make sure you read all documentation on the thermal compound you decide to use before applying it. Note - new coffee filters make great cleaning cloths for preparing the CPU and heat-sink surfaces.
Good luck.
kona0197
Reply #38 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:40 PM
Reply #38 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:40 PM
Coffee filters eh? I'll have to remember that...
Learn something new everyday!
Learn something new everyday!
TYCUS
Reply #39 Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:07 PM
Reply #39 Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:07 PM
IT IS DONE...
finaly, my new computer is working without any problem, right now Windows Vista HP is working and i'm installing all the drivers and apps., the next step: instal 3ds max 9!
finaly, my new computer is working without any problem, right now Windows Vista HP is working and i'm installing all the drivers and apps., the next step: instal 3ds max 9!
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Reply #21 Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:04 PM