Skinning Unecessary?
Not bashing anyone, or anything.
Saturday, September 22, 2007 by BuddhaV10 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I have a tremendous amount of respect for the skinning community. I love windowblinds, iconpackager,objectdock,(LOVE THE WEATHER DOCK) and logonstudio. the rest of the apps, especially DX, seem interesting, but not really my thing. no, this is not a "OMG i looove you guys!" post. it's actually a (slightly) negative one.
i recently got rid of my gaming rig,and purchased a solid, business-class notebook. i love it, because all of my computer time is devoted to web-based activity, and i appreciate the fact that it does it's job. needless to say, it's not on par with the gaming rig it's replacing, (mighta dropped a core, half my ram, and 9/10 of my hard drive space, but it's still a very solid machine), but it does what it has to. I moved my skins over, and they ran just fine, no issues.i just did a reinstall, to upgrade to XP MCE, and upon hours of hard thinking, i decided not to skin my new install. I still have everything backed up, but i find that i sort of like the Energy Blue Luna theme that XP came with. i know, Luna can be really boring, and has nothing on some of my fave skins, but it does it's job. Just like the laptop.
Soooo, my question to you is...can you think of a time when you realized that maybe skinning wasnt necessary?
I believe that on some machines, heck, id say most machines, skinning adds a whole dimension to your PC. but im wondering if anyone else has had my situation happen to them.
i recently got rid of my gaming rig,and purchased a solid, business-class notebook. i love it, because all of my computer time is devoted to web-based activity, and i appreciate the fact that it does it's job. needless to say, it's not on par with the gaming rig it's replacing, (mighta dropped a core, half my ram, and 9/10 of my hard drive space, but it's still a very solid machine), but it does what it has to. I moved my skins over, and they ran just fine, no issues.i just did a reinstall, to upgrade to XP MCE, and upon hours of hard thinking, i decided not to skin my new install. I still have everything backed up, but i find that i sort of like the Energy Blue Luna theme that XP came with. i know, Luna can be really boring, and has nothing on some of my fave skins, but it does it's job. Just like the laptop.
Soooo, my question to you is...can you think of a time when you realized that maybe skinning wasnt necessary?
I believe that on some machines, heck, id say most machines, skinning adds a whole dimension to your PC. but im wondering if anyone else has had my situation happen to them.
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Fairyy~
Reply #2 Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:12 AM
When I got laptop last Xmas I lived without windowblinds for 6 months. But in the end I did end up d/loading stardock central and using windowblinds and IP etc.
But...
I removed it all cause I gave laptop to my son because it (laptop) was not doing the job for me.
He never used windowblinds so he wouldnt know what he was missing -
Reply #2 Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:12 AM
Soooo, my question to you is...can you think of a time when you realized that maybe skinning wasnt necessary?
When I got laptop last Xmas I lived without windowblinds for 6 months. But in the end I did end up d/loading stardock central and using windowblinds and IP etc.
But...
I removed it all cause I gave laptop to my son because it (laptop) was not doing the job for me.
He never used windowblinds so he wouldnt know what he was missing -
messiah1
Reply #3 Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:40 AM
Reply #3 Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:40 AM
I didn't put any of the Stardock software on my new laptop. I got it for a second PC, and second portal onto the net if the main PC is being used. I saw no real need to "Skin" it since it isn't my main PC and I don't spend the same amount of time on it. So I can relate in that aspect. However, it is weird to use that one when I'm so used to having things customized.
REDstyler
Reply #4 Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:49 AM
Reply #4 Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:49 AM
Every now and then I find that the skin I am using is either getting boring or is getting really irritating, especially that of my own skins.
I noticed that the skins I keep using the most is not the elegant and colourful ones, but rather the simple and professional ones. Just shows you how I think ...
I noticed that the skins I keep using the most is not the elegant and colourful ones, but rather the simple and professional ones. Just shows you how I think ...
starkers
Reply #5 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:00 AM
Reply #5 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:00 AM
Of course skinning is unnecessary (well it's not 100% vital to my existence) and I could live without a customised GUI on my PC (for about 10 minutes) as the default look is so appealing (not) and isn't painful to my peepers (that much). 
vStyler
Reply #6 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:14 AM
Reply #6 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:14 AM
Definately unnecessary, I'm not much of a customizer. I don't see what the big deal is. 
messiah1
Reply #7 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:20 AM
HA!
Reply #7 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:20 AM
Definately unnecessary, I'm not much of a customizer. I don't see what the big deal is.
HA!
ZubaZ
Reply #8 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:28 AM
Reply #8 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:28 AM
Breathing is overrated too. Ditto food. 
Honestly, I could live without WB longer than I could live without ObjectBar, ObjectDock, and DX but I wouldn't want to.
And of course, no matter what the haters say, WB doesn't slow my systems down at all so why not?
Honestly, I could live without WB longer than I could live without ObjectBar, ObjectDock, and DX but I wouldn't want to.
And of course, no matter what the haters say, WB doesn't slow my systems down at all so why not?
Jafo
Reply #9 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:45 AM
Reply #9 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:45 AM
Some say that a Porsche is little more than a re-skinned Vee Dub Beetle.....
.....but I think I'd still have the Porsche ....
sleepydawg
Reply #10 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:51 AM
Agreed. I spend most of my working day looking at 3 Dell computers using Windows classic theme and some really bad graphics from a third party program. Six years ago I ran the same plants in DOS. Its so nice to come home and see something nice on the screen. Unnecessary, but nice.
Reply #10 Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:51 AM
Of course skinning is unnecessary
Agreed. I spend most of my working day looking at 3 Dell computers using Windows classic theme and some really bad graphics from a third party program. Six years ago I ran the same plants in DOS. Its so nice to come home and see something nice on the screen. Unnecessary, but nice.
Elfkura
Reply #11 Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:00 PM
Reply #11 Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:00 PM
"See a need, fill a need!" - by Robots!
I think rewording the above quote would fit better here: "Feel a desire. Fill a desire."
Skinning, and most, if not all, the things offered here are unnecessary. We get into these things because they strike well with us on a level, a certain cord if you will. Desire breed "want," and it is that "want" that drives places like this.
Jafo is known for keeping it short, sweet, and simple.
A Porsche is just like any other vehicle. It has 4 wheels, a driver seat, and all the basic necessities that make it a car. At the same time... "dude, it's a porsche!" to those who porsche struck a good cord on.
I think rewording the above quote would fit better here: "Feel a desire. Fill a desire."
Skinning, and most, if not all, the things offered here are unnecessary. We get into these things because they strike well with us on a level, a certain cord if you will. Desire breed "want," and it is that "want" that drives places like this.
Jafo is known for keeping it short, sweet, and simple.
A Porsche is just like any other vehicle. It has 4 wheels, a driver seat, and all the basic necessities that make it a car. At the same time... "dude, it's a porsche!" to those who porsche struck a good cord on
.
BuddhaV10
Reply #12 Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:05 PM
that's what i did, only i used some transparent too. also, i just realized that besides beelzebub, i only liked Royale, which i just realized is basically energy blue i think that when i was gaming, i had to bring my rig to LAN parties, so i wanted to trick it out, so people using boring ole Luna could see some purty stuff...
Reply #12 Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:05 PM
I noticed that the skins I keep using the most is not the elegant and colourful ones, but rather the simple and professional ones. Just shows you how I think ...
that's what i did, only i used some transparent too. also, i just realized that besides beelzebub, i only liked Royale, which i just realized is basically energy blue
i think that when i was gaming, i had to bring my rig to LAN parties, so i wanted to trick it out, so people using boring ole Luna could see some purty stuff...
scorpNZ
Reply #13 Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:35 PM
Reply #13 Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:35 PM
No customization is just plain gaye looking at the original xp themes is like putting battery acid in my eyes it just plain hurts,even the most basic function like the roll up thingy would be terribly missed
someone31988
Reply #14 Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:56 PM
Reply #14 Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:56 PM
Yeah, there have been plenty of times that I've thought this. I really like using different skins on WindowBlinds for a different look but there are times where decide to switch to Windows Classic because it just seems cleaner. I don't care how little resources WindowBlinds uses, Windows Classic, Luna on XP, and Aero on Vista still feel faster at times.
REDstyler
Reply #15 Sunday, September 23, 2007 3:17 PM
I've done that once too! Some people didn't even notice ...
Reply #15 Sunday, September 23, 2007 3:17 PM
Reply #12 (Buddha V10)
that's what i did, only i used some transparent too. also, i just realized that besides beelzebub, i only liked Royale, which i just realized is basically energy blue i think that when i was gaming, i had to bring my rig to LAN parties, so i wanted to trick it out, so people using boring ole Luna could see some purty stuff...
that's what i did, only i used some transparent too. also, i just realized that besides beelzebub, i only liked Royale, which i just realized is basically energy blue i think that when i was gaming, i had to bring my rig to LAN parties, so i wanted to trick it out, so people using boring ole Luna could see some purty stuff...
I've done that once too! Some people didn't even notice ...
BuddhaV10
Reply #16 Sunday, September 23, 2007 5:31 PM
No customization is just plain gaye looking at the original xp themes is like putting battery acid in my eyes it just plain hurts,even the most basic function like the roll up thingy would be terribly missed
i appreciate your input. i also appreciate it when you keep it civil.
calling XP's default themes, whatever color, hard on the eyes is an opinion, not a fact. some people, myself included, find them to be at the very least tolerable, if not preferable to some of the skins on this and other site. besides, this is Royale, or Energy Blue. I like that the Start Button looks polished, i think the Blue is a slightly nicer shade, and i prefer blue to white in my start menu background. Media Center's extra screensavers, especially Nature, are very nice and rival the quality that i have found on this site, and that is saying something.
at one LAN party, i had about twelve people that were more interested in my description of some of the skins on this site than on me fragging them!
Reply #16 Sunday, September 23, 2007 5:31 PM
No customization is just plain gaye looking at the original xp themes is like putting battery acid in my eyes it just plain hurts,even the most basic function like the roll up thingy would be terribly missed
i appreciate your input. i also appreciate it when you keep it civil.
calling XP's default themes, whatever color, hard on the eyes is an opinion, not a fact. some people, myself included, find them to be at the very least tolerable, if not preferable to some of the skins on this and other site. besides, this is Royale, or Energy Blue. I like that the Start Button looks polished, i think the Blue is a slightly nicer shade, and i prefer blue to white in my start menu background. Media Center's extra screensavers, especially Nature, are very nice and rival the quality that i have found on this site, and that is saying something.I've done that once too! Some people didn't even notice ...
at one LAN party, i had about twelve people that were more interested in my description of some of the skins on this site than on me fragging them!
Vampothika
Reply #17 Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:11 PM
Reply #17 Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:11 PM
cant live without windowblinds to save myself.....when i see luna, my soul just screams and runs away.....my brain questions what the hell am i doing looking at it, and my heart just sinks and wants to drown......(the inside of an artists mind for ya)
sorry, luna sucks, customization rocks.
sorry, luna sucks, customization rocks.
HG_Eliminator
Reply #18 Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:30 PM
Reply #18 Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:30 PM
Actually most every thing is not a necessity. Necessities are the basics of exhistance food, water,etc every thing else is just a luxury But those Luxuries are sure nice;)
But those Luxuries are sure nice;)
Jafo
Reply #19 Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:37 PM
Reply #19 Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:37 PM
I ran XP recently naked for a month or so....but ultimately HAD to put WB back on...as I absolutely HATED not having the roll-up and on-top functions.
Appearance didn't really faze me...though I ran classic, not Luna....
scorpNZ
Reply #20 Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:04 PM
REPLY #16
Buddhav10
i also appreciate it when you keep it civil. calling XP's default themes, whatever color, hard on the eyes is an opinion, not a fact. some people, myself included, find them to be at the very least tolerable, if not preferable to some of the skins on this and other site. besides, this is Royale, or Energy Blue. I like that the Start Button looks polished, i think the Blue is a slightly nicer shade, and i prefer blue to white in my start menu background. Media Center's extra screensavers, especially Nature, are very nice and rival the quality that i have found on this site, and that is saying something.
To be honest that's about as civil as i could be & that don't happen very often *mutley laugh* ,my comment on hard on the eyes is more of an over exageration the point i did'nt make clear was xp's themes including the new colour of the zune theme still make it very limited to the amount of matchmaking that can be done with colours of taskbar & the wallpapers,one of the things i like (there are many more) that wb does is not having "START" written on that button..lol.. i especially like animations on it too & i could go on all day but you get the jist of it
Reply #20 Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:04 PM
REPLY #16
Buddhav10
i also appreciate it when you keep it civil.
calling XP's default themes, whatever color, hard on the eyes is an opinion, not a fact. some people, myself included, find them to be at the very least tolerable, if not preferable to some of the skins on this and other site. besides, this is Royale, or Energy Blue. I like that the Start Button looks polished, i think the Blue is a slightly nicer shade, and i prefer blue to white in my start menu background. Media Center's extra screensavers, especially Nature, are very nice and rival the quality that i have found on this site, and that is saying something.To be honest that's about as civil as i could be & that don't happen very often *mutley laugh* ,my comment on hard on the eyes is more of an over exageration the point i did'nt make clear was xp's themes including the new colour of the zune theme still make it very limited to the amount of matchmaking that can be done with colours of taskbar & the wallpapers,one of the things i like (there are many more) that wb does is not having "START" written on that button..lol.. i especially like animations on it too & i could go on all day but you get the jist of it
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Reply #1 Saturday, September 22, 2007 3:47 PM