Explaining Infinity

In depth explination

Friday, September 7, 2007 by YogiYamamoto | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

So I'm a part of Yahoo! Answers and I didn't really spend a whole lot of time researching my answers until this one popped up, and it was rather interesting. I'm taking a rather high math class for my age and I understand most aspects of everything up to calc, but while browsing I saw this quesion titled "Infinity?????????" Check out the link and look at my first answer and then the update (both on the 5th post, name's Stephen G) and let me know what you think, I'm looking for some feedback on what I found out. Thanks, Stephen
NightTrainthedark
Reply #1 Friday, September 7, 2007 6:25 PM
It makes sense.

Now try to figure this one out. It is true.

Mathematically .999 = 1  

eieio
Reply #2 Friday, September 7, 2007 6:27 PM
Three thirds?   
YogiYamamoto
Reply #3 Friday, September 7, 2007 9:28 PM
mathematically, no. pictoratus is right.

I could make it really confusing and say that .999 is infinity away from 1   
NightTrainthedark
Reply #4 Friday, September 7, 2007 10:01 PM
.000… becomes 0/9 = 0.
.111… becomes 1/9.
.222… becomes 2/9.
.333… becomes 3/9 = 1/3.
.999… becomes 9/9 = 1.

  
YogiYamamoto
Reply #5 Saturday, September 8, 2007 2:00 AM
I really didn't want to believe you at first, but a quick trip to wikipedia explained it all out:



That pic basicly breaks down 9/9 [1] into two numbers, multiplies them together and gets .999...
Thanks for the insight, thats another one of those tricky things that I love figuring out.
Jafo
Reply #6 Saturday, September 8, 2007 9:05 AM

I dunno what you people are smoking but since when was 0.111 = 1/9?

It is not, and never will be.

eieio
Reply #7 Saturday, September 8, 2007 9:51 AM
I think there should more '1's at the end of that 0.111 ... a whole lot ... as in infinity     
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #8 Saturday, September 8, 2007 11:42 AM

I think they meant 0.111r   

YogiYamamoto
Reply #9 Saturday, September 8, 2007 2:46 PM
Yeah, hence the reason it's written .111... and not just .111

If you still done want more proof, go to the wikipedia link;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.999
Jafo
Reply #10 Saturday, September 8, 2007 8:26 PM

These old arguments pop up periodically since time immemorial, simply because proponents try to adopt mathematical treatise to that which are not actual numbers, but concepts.

0, 1, and Infinity are concepts.....states of mathematical absolutes, and there has always been quaint 'mathematics' to demonstrate the 3 states are one and the same...eg. 1 = 0 = Infinity.

It doesn't actually PROVE anything, other than certain people having more time on their hands than is healthy.....

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #11 Sunday, September 9, 2007 4:29 AM
Doesn't matter what spin you put on it, 0.9r will never =1, it will always be short by an infinitesimal amount.
YogiYamamoto
Reply #12 Sunday, September 9, 2007 4:47 PM
The math is right there, if you still don't believe it take a calculator and convert 1/3 into a decimal. It will give you .333r Now multiply that by 3, in reality it should give you .999r

Go ahead and try it, you will get 1 everytime. In fact calculators don't even have .999r programmed into them, go ahead and try whatever you want, you will never be able to get .999r

For even more proof go to the wikipedia link I posted, it talks about people like you and how they don't want to believe it.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #13 Sunday, September 9, 2007 5:30 PM
  
Jafo
Reply #14 Sunday, September 9, 2007 7:31 PM

Go ahead and try it, you will get 1 everytime. In fact calculators don't even have .999r programmed into them, go ahead and try whatever you want, you will never be able to get .999r

Oh come on....if you need to reference/rely on a calculator to interpret your mathematics/logic then there's going to be no point in arguing/debating.

A calculator is a tool, and as mindless as its operator.

Remember...

Some moistened bint ripping a scimitar out of a rock is not a basis for government....

YogiYamamoto
Reply #15 Monday, September 10, 2007 5:57 PM
I hope you weren't refering to me with that statement Jafo, because I'm not the one who had to rely on a calculator. As soon as I saw the equation I posted on wiki it all made sense, but for people like Fuzzy who couldn't understand it i simply refered them to a calculator.

Is that REALLY such a bad thing?
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #16 Monday, September 10, 2007 8:33 PM

Aye, and if my granny had wheels she'd be a waggon...

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