Windows 7 in 3 Years?
2010? I bet it'll more likely be 2012
Monday, July 23, 2007 by Zoomba | Discussion: WinCustomize News
Microsoft sleuth, Mary Jo Foley, has the word straight from Microsoft on when we can expect the next version of Windows... 2010. The news comes from Microsoft's Global Exchange annual event in Orlando, FL last week. Very few hard details were released on Windows Seven, but we do know that it will be 32 and 64 bit, and target business and regular customers. One interesting tidbit was that Microsoft is mulling over the idea of extending Windows Seven functionality through subscription-based programs.
If the next version of Windows is 2.5 - 3 years away, how will that impact Vista adoption?
Surj
Reply #2 Monday, July 23, 2007 3:36 PM
Reply #2 Monday, July 23, 2007 3:36 PM
subscription anything on my core OS is a big fat no thank you.
eidylon
Reply #3 Monday, July 23, 2007 4:09 PM
Reply #3 Monday, July 23, 2007 4:09 PM
Yes, NO SUBSCRIPTION STUFF on the OS itself... extras like Windows Live, whatever, but NOT on the OS. 
CraigSnedeker
Reply #4 Monday, July 23, 2007 4:56 PM
Reply #4 Monday, July 23, 2007 4:56 PM
3 years is to short. if vista tok 5 years, the new OS will take longer. But, if it is 3 years, i'm skipping vista and going right to the next version!
v1rtuoso
Reply #6 Monday, July 23, 2007 5:23 PM
Reply #6 Monday, July 23, 2007 5:23 PM
Definitely a "NO WAY" on the subscription for the OS. I agree vStyler. No use if it's only three years 'til the next one!
Aquamonkey
Reply #7 Monday, July 23, 2007 7:55 PM
Reply #7 Monday, July 23, 2007 7:55 PM
I'll say 2012 at the earliest! It could be 2020 and I'd still stick with XP over Vista
whatwhere
Reply #8 Monday, July 23, 2007 8:12 PM
Reply #8 Monday, July 23, 2007 8:12 PM
i'm, with you guys...screw that subscriptions crap NO WAY MAN!! it's worse enough we have to spend what a few hundred dollars for the OS..if they even think of trying that crap i'll seriously switch ALL of my systems to ubuntu with out hesitation
Astyanax
Reply #9 Monday, July 23, 2007 9:17 PM
Reply #9 Monday, July 23, 2007 9:17 PM
It'll get droped Im sure. Just like them wanting to add an activation limit to Vista, people complained so much that they scraped it entirely.
And in a year or so you'll be completely alone.
I'll say 2012 at the earliest! It could be 2020 and I'd still stick with XP over Vista
And in a year or so you'll be completely alone.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #10 Monday, July 23, 2007 9:50 PM
bullshit.I'm not leaving XP for Vista til something I just HAVE to do cant be done on XP.Vista usability is horrible...and I'm not referring to drivers or program compatibility...it werked flawlessly on a borderline system.
But the user interface in general is complete step backwards...a scrolling start menu?What a joke!Intrusive search bars EVERYWHERE,no toolbars!tabbed dialogs replaced with individually opening windows.I COULD go on but people happy with Veeesta wont care and people stuck on XP wont understand how lucky they are.
Reply #10 Monday, July 23, 2007 9:50 PM
And in a year or so you'll be completely alone.
bullshit.I'm not leaving XP for Vista til something I just HAVE to do cant be done on XP.Vista usability is horrible...and I'm not referring to drivers or program compatibility...it werked flawlessly on a borderline system.
But the user interface in general is complete step backwards...a scrolling start menu?What a joke!Intrusive search bars EVERYWHERE,no toolbars!tabbed dialogs replaced with individually opening windows.I COULD go on but people happy with Veeesta wont care and people stuck on XP wont understand how lucky they are.
Astyanax
Reply #11 Monday, July 23, 2007 10:33 PM
How about support from Microsoft? You think they wont discontinue support for things like UPDATES next year? Think again.
Reply #11 Monday, July 23, 2007 10:33 PM
bullshit.I'm not leaving XP for Vista til something I just HAVE to do cant be done on XP
How about support from Microsoft? You think they wont discontinue support for things like UPDATES next year? Think again.
DuoBlaze
Reply #12 Monday, July 23, 2007 10:36 PM
Reply #12 Monday, July 23, 2007 10:36 PM
It will not be out in 3 years, it will be 5 or more. This way Microsoft can claim they do not have to have backwards compatible support more then 1 version of their various software suites. (example, vista only supports Office 2003 or the new 2007, those with xp/2000 of office are forced to purchase upgrades)
Subscription based operating systems. HA! That would be the death of Microsoft to the common folk.
Subscription based operating systems. HA! That would be the death of Microsoft to the common folk.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #13 Monday, July 23, 2007 10:44 PM
Havnt installed a single update since the release of SP2...still rockin and a rollin.
Reply #13 Monday, July 23, 2007 10:44 PM
You think they wont discontinue support for things like UPDATES next year?
Havnt installed a single update since the release of SP2...still rockin and a rollin.
someone31988
Reply #15 Monday, July 23, 2007 11:52 PM
Reply #15 Monday, July 23, 2007 11:52 PM
Well if Microsoft gets themselves in gear, they could probably pull off a release in 2010. Look at how Windows OSes used to come out. Win95 in 1995, Win98 in 1997, WinME and Win2k in 2000, then WinXP in 2001. Windows XP was a major release and was codenamed Whister which is the name of a ski resort in Canada. Vista was originally supposed to be a minor Windows release similar to WinME which is why it was codenamed Longhorn, a bar/tavern/pub/whatever you wanna call it in between Whistler and another ski resort named Blackcomb. The version of Windows to come out after Vista was codenamed Blackcomb and was supposed to be a major Windows release. Of course now that nomenclature wouldn't make sense since the two ski resorts are now one big one called Whistler-Blackcomb. What happened was that development of Longhorn took so long that it ended up turning in to a major release. As for Windows Blackcomb, that was renamed to our current Windows 7. Hopefully with Microsoft announcing this release date, it just means that they're getting back on track like how it was before Vista.
whatwhere
Reply #16 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:24 AM
It'll get droped Im sure. Just like them wanting to add an activation limit to Vista, people complained so much that they scraped it entirely.
And in a year or so you'll be completely alone.
you mean vista isn't like winblows XP where you have a certain activation limit? so i can do a fresh install & activate my copy of vista like a thousand one times and it won't give me that "you've reached your activation limit" BS?
Reply #16 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:24 AM
It'll get droped Im sure. Just like them wanting to add an activation limit to Vista, people complained so much that they scraped it entirely.
I'll say 2012 at the earliest! It could be 2020 and I'd still stick with XP over Vista
And in a year or so you'll be completely alone.
you mean vista isn't like winblows XP where you have a certain activation limit? so i can do a fresh install & activate my copy of vista like a thousand one times and it won't give me that "you've reached your activation limit" BS?
whatwhere
Reply #17 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:29 AM
bullshit.I'm not leaving XP for Vista til something I just HAVE to do cant be done on XP.Vista usability is horrible...and I'm not referring to drivers or program compatibility...it werked flawlessly on a borderline system.
But the user interface in general is complete step backwards...a scrolling start menu?What a joke!Intrusive search bars EVERYWHERE,no toolbars!tabbed dialogs replaced with individually opening windows.I COULD go on but people happy with Veeesta wont care and people stuck on XP wont understand how lucky they are.
not to mention in XP where you can go into your folder options and then click the "file types" tab so you can un-associate a file from a program in vista i can't find that option any where..i managed to find something like it but i forget how to un-associate files in vista..
Reply #17 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:29 AM
And in a year or so you'll be completely alone.
bullshit.I'm not leaving XP for Vista til something I just HAVE to do cant be done on XP.Vista usability is horrible...and I'm not referring to drivers or program compatibility...it werked flawlessly on a borderline system.
But the user interface in general is complete step backwards...a scrolling start menu?What a joke!Intrusive search bars EVERYWHERE,no toolbars!tabbed dialogs replaced with individually opening windows.I COULD go on but people happy with Veeesta wont care and people stuck on XP wont understand how lucky they are.
not to mention in XP where you can go into your folder options and then click the "file types" tab so you can un-associate a file from a program in vista i can't find that option any where..i managed to find something like it but i forget how to un-associate files in vista..
Astyanax
Reply #18 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:09 AM
No BS at all. As long as its on the same machine with no hardware changes you can reformat as many times as you like. But you can re-activate 10 times if new hardware is put in.
And by hardware I mean CPU/Motherboard/Hard drive. Videocard and PSU don't count, and im pretty sure ram upgrades dont either. I just know for a fact that Videocard/PSU don't count as I've replaced mine within 2 months, reformatted half a dozen times with 0 activation issues.
Reply #18 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:09 AM
you mean vista isn't like winblows XP where you have a certain activation limit? so i can do a fresh install & activate my copy of vista like a thousand one times and it won't give me that "you've reached your activation limit" BS?
No BS at all. As long as its on the same machine with no hardware changes you can reformat as many times as you like. But you can re-activate 10 times if new hardware is put in.
And by hardware I mean CPU/Motherboard/Hard drive. Videocard and PSU don't count, and im pretty sure ram upgrades dont either. I just know for a fact that Videocard/PSU don't count as I've replaced mine within 2 months, reformatted half a dozen times with 0 activation issues.
v1rtuoso
Reply #19 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:49 PM
Doubt it considering how many people have already voiced their loyalty to XP over Vista on this thread. Sounds like you'll be the one who's lonely... either that or stuck with a bunch of really stupid friends.
Reply #19 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:49 PM
And in a year or so you'll be completely alone.
Doubt it considering how many people have already voiced their loyalty to XP over Vista on this thread. Sounds like you'll be the one who's lonely... either that or stuck with a bunch of really stupid friends.
whatwhere
Reply #20 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:12 PM
No BS at all. As long as its on the same machine with no hardware changes you can reformat as many times as you like. But you can re-activate 10 times if new hardware is put in.
And by hardware I mean CPU/Motherboard/Hard drive. Videocard and PSU don't count, and im pretty sure ram upgrades dont either. I just know for a fact that Videocard/PSU don't count as I've replaced mine within 2 months, reformatted half a dozen times with 0 activation issues.
i gotta question,to make a long story short i did a complete fresh install of my OS (vista),my anti spyware,anti virus and firewall prgrams,i also activated them all including the OS and updates them all including the OS.i noticed that vista has the back up option of a "complete PC back up" which of course i did the back up,my question is if i nuke my HDD and do a fresh install then after that i do the "complete PC restore" will i have to
1) re-activate the OS and my protection programs (anti-virus,anti-spyware and firewall)
and
2) since everything is on the back up disks do i have to first install my protection programs first or will they all come back from the restore cd's?. the reason why i am asking is i don't want to find out later if something goes wrong with my system or i catch a nasty piece of spyware and/or virus and only having the option of nuking the HDD just to find out that the restore cd's will not put everything back as it once was.
Reply #20 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:12 PM
you mean vista isn't like winblows XP where you have a certain activation limit? so i can do a fresh install & activate my copy of vista like a thousand one times and it won't give me that "you've reached your activation limit" BS?
No BS at all. As long as its on the same machine with no hardware changes you can reformat as many times as you like. But you can re-activate 10 times if new hardware is put in.
And by hardware I mean CPU/Motherboard/Hard drive. Videocard and PSU don't count, and im pretty sure ram upgrades dont either. I just know for a fact that Videocard/PSU don't count as I've replaced mine within 2 months, reformatted half a dozen times with 0 activation issues.
1) re-activate the OS and my protection programs (anti-virus,anti-spyware and firewall)
and
2) since everything is on the back up disks do i have to first install my protection programs first or will they all come back from the restore cd's?. the reason why i am asking is i don't want to find out later if something goes wrong with my system or i catch a nasty piece of spyware and/or virus and only having the option of nuking the HDD just to find out that the restore cd's will not put everything back as it once was.
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Reply #1 Monday, July 23, 2007 12:12 PM
And your wrong about 32bit. I heard serious speculation to it being strictly 64bit. Windows Vista was the last 32 bit operating system.
EDIT: http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/server/microsoft_looks_to_64bit_future.html
Whoops sorry I was a bit wrong, Server 2008 is the last 32 bit OS. Guess I can safely say its NOT speculation.