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why does it converts to windows classic theme?
why does it converts to windows classic theme?
Saturday, June 30, 2007 by jane ral | Discussion: WindowBlinds
i have the same problem Whenever i try to apply one of the skins i download from this site, it converts to windows classic theme it bugs me..........i have vista ultimate, my graphics index is 1.0 my windows blinds enhanced is active and everything please someone tell me what can i do????
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MeSleeper
Reply #22 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:47 AM
Reply #22 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:47 AM
Pentjakmagick - you may be on to something. I also use Bitdefender (anti-virus only) and have a problem similar to yours. I'm able to get version 5.51 to install, but it will not start on a boot-up. I have to start WB manually and re-choose my skin after every start-up. Because WB won't start initially, my system always starts in Windows Classic style.
I installed 5.51 with Bitdefender disabled and all Bitdefender services stopped. The only Bitdefender background activity that can't be easily turned off is the Bitdefender Management Console. That runs silently in the background.
I wonder if by turning off Bitdefender I was able to install WB okay, but now that WB is installed it conflicts with Bitdefender activity on start-up?
You say your problem is fixed. Have you re-booted after you installed WB and picked a skin to run? Is WB starting up on a re-boot? Have you looked at the Appearance tab in Display Properties (you're using XP)? Does it show your chosen skin name in the Windows and Buttons box? Sure appreciate you sharing what you see.
Thanks,
Sleep
I installed 5.51 with Bitdefender disabled and all Bitdefender services stopped. The only Bitdefender background activity that can't be easily turned off is the Bitdefender Management Console. That runs silently in the background.
I wonder if by turning off Bitdefender I was able to install WB okay, but now that WB is installed it conflicts with Bitdefender activity on start-up?
You say your problem is fixed. Have you re-booted after you installed WB and picked a skin to run? Is WB starting up on a re-boot? Have you looked at the Appearance tab in Display Properties (you're using XP)? Does it show your chosen skin name in the Windows and Buttons box? Sure appreciate you sharing what you see.
Thanks,
Sleep
ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #23 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:18 AM
Reply #23 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:18 AM
Sounds like a NAP problem in sorts. But it is more likely to be security settings for user in properties for .exe files and other files needed by WB. You may have installed a firewall in the past and uninstalled it - but the regs where not converted back to the original state. Sometimes this can be a bad problem with both XP and esp. Vista! Vista also has a way of doing things with defender that if it does not operate correctly due to a shut down by like same enviroments as a firewall or anti-virus system or security suite. It has rights management problems unwritten from regs and they can not be rewritten correctly with just a reinstall of defender or said even the system restore at that.
NAP will effect even the ability of the explorer to download a file from a screen or window. This is caused by it changing rights management settings to be recognized by a system address file for it's own set of rights management and leaves OS settings unwritten. Thus blocking anything it does not recognize.
If I where you I would consider reinstalling the OS and be very careful what you install and how it is unistalled in the futeure. Trial and errors can be very frustrating and can even change your point of view on life itself sometimes!
Believe me it is not anything to do with Stardock software and you will find once you have clean installed everything. That you will be able to enjoy the OS much better. Plus once you have done this - get a good backup of your system so you can go back to fix a bad install of software or security system that has changed such system regs and settings. The which in most cases are not repairable or replaced.
SGT
NAP will effect even the ability of the explorer to download a file from a screen or window. This is caused by it changing rights management settings to be recognized by a system address file for it's own set of rights management and leaves OS settings unwritten. Thus blocking anything it does not recognize.
If I where you I would consider reinstalling the OS and be very careful what you install and how it is unistalled in the futeure. Trial and errors can be very frustrating and can even change your point of view on life itself sometimes!
Believe me it is not anything to do with Stardock software and you will find once you have clean installed everything. That you will be able to enjoy the OS much better. Plus once you have done this - get a good backup of your system so you can go back to fix a bad install of software or security system that has changed such system regs and settings. The which in most cases are not repairable or replaced.
SGT
Nimbin
Reply #24 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:23 AM
Reply #24 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:23 AM
why is it that some people have to disable all there security and others don't. i use AVG antivirus, zonealarm pro adaware and spybot and never once have i had to disable any of them to get any stardock program working. one thing people can try is dig into the options in the security programs they are using to make sure that they can be set to allow programs to be installed, or maybe if they are using a limited account that could be the problem. most of these programs need you to be logged in as computer administrator. so first up make sure you are logged in as that. in my opinion having to disable your security to use a stardock program is unacceptable and if this is the case stardock needs to look into this issue with great haste.
MeSleeper
Reply #25 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:45 AM
Reply #25 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:45 AM
Nimbin - you ask a great question and there is no simple answer. I've not had a problem with any install from any program EVER until WB 5.51. Does that mean it's a Stardock problem - of course not. There a lot of complicated interdependencies going on. The reason people post and ask questions is to get sifficient data to determine what the root cause is and once it's found it's often a simple fix. The fact only a handful of people are talking about this makes the issue harder to root out.
Shelby - if you reply was to me, I am running WB 5.50 restored from the image I had BEFORE the 5.51 install. I'm pretty picky about what I put on my hard drive, who wrote the code, how it's installed and why. There is something different in WB 5.51 that was not there before 5.50. Whatever it is is conflicting with somethng on my system. I've spent more time worrying about 5.51 than the update is worth. I'm interested in finding the cause only to satisfy my curiousity and to solve any issues should this continue on when WB 6.0 is released later this year.
Pentjakmagick - still interested in hearing what's happening after your install and Bitdefender is running again. Thanks ... Sleep
Shelby - if you reply was to me, I am running WB 5.50 restored from the image I had BEFORE the 5.51 install. I'm pretty picky about what I put on my hard drive, who wrote the code, how it's installed and why. There is something different in WB 5.51 that was not there before 5.50. Whatever it is is conflicting with somethng on my system. I've spent more time worrying about 5.51 than the update is worth. I'm interested in finding the cause only to satisfy my curiousity and to solve any issues should this continue on when WB 6.0 is released later this year.
Pentjakmagick - still interested in hearing what's happening after your install and Bitdefender is running again. Thanks ... Sleep
pentjakmagick
Reply #26 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:42 PM
Reply #26 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:42 PM
Ok just read ur post there mesleper.I rebooted and had the same problem u did with it going back to the classic theme.Im going to try a few other things with it tomorrow and ill keep u posted.
Gingergrams
Reply #27 Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:23 AM
Reply #27 Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:23 AM
I fixed my problem and I have restarted my computer 3 times to test it and I do not have to turn off anything. the problem appears with stardock central and windowblinds when I installed 5.51.025 (the latest upgrade) I uninstalled windowblinds and then uninstalled stardock central the applied the classic theme, and restarted my computer the I installed stardock central and then installed windowblinds. and restarted my computer it worked I was able to intall a skin again Hooray I don't know if it will help anyone else but I hope so. I restarted my computer two more times to make sure it still worked so far it is running great. good luck
pentjakmagick
Reply #28 Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:17 PM
Reply #28 Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:17 PM
Ok i emailed support and here is the response i got to fix the startup problem and it works.......It sounds like the WindowBlinds service is not running on startup. The only cause for this would be if something were preventing it from running at startup. As most security applications do not offer a "disable even through restart" feature, the only workaround may be to uninstall this.
What you may be able to do to alleviate the issue is put a shortcut to wbload.exe in your startup directory (to have this file executed on startup).
hope this helps all of u.
What you may be able to do to alleviate the issue is put a shortcut to wbload.exe in your startup directory (to have this file executed on startup).
hope this helps all of u.
MeSleeper
Reply #29 Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:41 PM
Reply #29 Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:41 PM
Thanks Pentjakmagick. I exchanged some e-mail from Bitdefender and they mailed me an uninstall utility to try. What's curious is the WB service you refer to does not show up in my services list, yet I am able to run WB 5.50 without it being there. It's only with 5.51 that WB won't start up automatically.
My plan is to drop this issue for now, stick with 5.50, and keep my fingers crossed that what I'm seeing won't be there with the next WB upgrade. If it is, I'll try uninstalling Bitdefender and see if that works. I appreciate greatly you posting your findings.
My plan is to drop this issue for now, stick with 5.50, and keep my fingers crossed that what I'm seeing won't be there with the next WB upgrade. If it is, I'll try uninstalling Bitdefender and see if that works. I appreciate greatly you posting your findings.
pentjakmagick
Reply #30 Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:39 PM
Reply #30 Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:39 PM
Yea i have the same issue as u mesleeper.there is no service showing up in the services and i think it has to do with bitdefender blocking it from installing and loading on startup.What i did was copy the exe to the startup folder and it reapply s the skin during startup.its kind of annoying to do it that way but at least it works.i can say for sure though it is an issue with bitdefender,hopefully the new windowsblinds will fix this problem.by the way anyone know where i can get a copy of 5.50?
MeSleeper
Reply #31 Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:06 PM
Reply #31 Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:06 PM
pentjakmagick - contact SD Tech Service, they'll set up a link for you to download 5.50. You might have more luck than I had, but once I installed 5.51, I was not able to fix the problem by uninstalling 5.51 and then re-installing 5.50. The only way I could get 5.50 to work again was to restore from a backup I had BEFORE 5.51 was installed.
This issue worries me. My suspicion is neither Stardock nor Bitdefender will see this as a big enough issue to waste resources to resolve. We may have to make a decision which of the two programs are more important to us.
Here is a throwaway e-mail address I have - mesleeper*aol.com. Replace the * with an @. Hopefully that will keep the e-mail harvesters away
Let's stay in touch by e-mail. There might be an ultimate solution and with both of us looking it should increase our odds of finsinf it.
Sleep
This issue worries me. My suspicion is neither Stardock nor Bitdefender will see this as a big enough issue to waste resources to resolve. We may have to make a decision which of the two programs are more important to us.
Here is a throwaway e-mail address I have - mesleeper*aol.com. Replace the * with an @. Hopefully that will keep the e-mail harvesters away
Let's stay in touch by e-mail. There might be an ultimate solution and with both of us looking it should increase our odds of finsinf it.Sleep
MeSleeper
Reply #32 Friday, July 13, 2007 11:31 AM
Reply #32 Friday, July 13, 2007 11:31 AM
Pentjakmagick - I think we have a SOLUTION to our problem. Everything you describe mirrors my observations. Check out the thread "Adding the Windowblinds Service Manually." What I describe there I think will work for you too. Please let me know if it works. My fingers are crossed.
My best,
Sleep
My best,
Sleep
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Reply #21 Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:40 AM
1.disable any anti virus/anti spyware
2.reinstall..(i didnt bother to uninstall i just went right over it)
3.exit both AV and AS when applying skins.