Start-up Xcerion sees the Web as your OS
Monday, April 9, 2007 by Philly0381 | Discussion: Personal Computing
I saw this article on c/net News.Com.
If Swedish entrepreneur Daniel Arthursson has his way, millions of people will be running their applications on an Internet operating system by the end of next year.
Could this be all of ours next OS? Isn't MS doing something with Office online? Could we be looking at the future with the Web hosting major software and we just go online to use it?
This almost sound like early computing where a closed net was set up and the software was on a server, users just had a terminal with an account set up to use the software.
Wonder what the Pros and Cons are to such a future? Check the link and post your thoughts.
WWW Link
If Swedish entrepreneur Daniel Arthursson has his way, millions of people will be running their applications on an Internet operating system by the end of next year.
Could this be all of ours next OS? Isn't MS doing something with Office online? Could we be looking at the future with the Web hosting major software and we just go online to use it?
This almost sound like early computing where a closed net was set up and the software was on a server, users just had a terminal with an account set up to use the software.
Wonder what the Pros and Cons are to such a future? Check the link and post your thoughts.
WWW Link
Philly0381
Reply #4 Monday, April 9, 2007 4:33 PM
Reply #4 Monday, April 9, 2007 4:33 PM
Zubaz, thomassen & Island Dog or anyone - Would there be any type of software/applications that you could see working via the Web? 
PurrBall
Reply #5 Monday, April 9, 2007 5:26 PM
Reply #5 Monday, April 9, 2007 5:26 PM
You would need an OS to run a web-based OS anyway so I don't really see a reason to do it.
ZubaZ
Reply #6 Monday, April 9, 2007 5:34 PM
Not really. Most apps work better when the dat, the app, and the hardware resources are local.
Don't get me wrong, I think the web apps can extend outward what we do but for most folks, the question is, "What's the benefit?"
Web apps make sense for people who don't have PCs. Give them to the folks on welfare or who are homeless or jobless. Create apps that allow me to collaborate easily.
Other than that . . I'll use my app, my hard-drive, my memory to push bits around, thank you very much.
Reply #6 Monday, April 9, 2007 5:34 PM
Would there be any type of software/applications that you could see working via the Web?
Not really. Most apps work better when the dat, the app, and the hardware resources are local.
Don't get me wrong, I think the web apps can extend outward what we do but for most folks, the question is, "What's the benefit?"
Web apps make sense for people who don't have PCs. Give them to the folks on welfare or who are homeless or jobless. Create apps that allow me to collaborate easily.
Other than that . . I'll use my app, my hard-drive, my memory to push bits around, thank you very much.
XX
Reply #7 Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:46 PM
Reply #7 Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:46 PM
Trust servers with my files?
Somehow I doubt any corporate would support web OS unless it's locally hosted, of course.
Somehow I doubt any corporate would support web OS unless it's locally hosted, of course.
Philly0381
Reply #8 Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:05 PM
Reply #8 Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:05 PM
XX - Why would you save your files to the server? I'd save them to my own hard drive.
I'm not sure that corporations would use the service, but I imagine there could be a number of individuals (home computer users) that just might find access to expensive apps a cost savings.
I'm not sure that corporations would use the service, but I imagine there could be a number of individuals (home computer users) that just might find access to expensive apps a cost savings.
XX
Reply #9 Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:53 AM
Reply #9 Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:53 AM
OS offsite = file being processed offsite. 
That's why.
That's why.
Philly0381
Reply #10 Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:29 PM
Reply #10 Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:29 PM
XX - So your feeling is that any save function with an offsite OS or app will not allow you to save a file to your own hard drive? You maybe right but that doesn't make sense. If such a service were to come about think how much storage space would be required. They might provide limit back up capability. Atleast that's what I would do.
XX
Reply #11 Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:25 PM
Reply #11 Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:25 PM
Hmm I didn't say off-site STORAGE. I said file PROCESSING off-site. Get it straight.
Get it straight.
ZubaZ
Reply #12 Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:45 PM
Reply #12 Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:45 PM
Again . . what does on-line processing do for most people?
If we are talking WebOS, we are talking file storage, processing, backups, everything. No thanks.
If we are talking Web2.0 applications we are talking entering data (word processing, spreadsheets, photos, etc) on someone else's server, doing some editing, then saving back to my PC.
I'll tell you what; I have used Google Docs and spreadsheets for data that I wanted to collaborate with other people. But for the most part I wrote and edited in my office suite then uploaded and pulled down when complete. It's just not my thing.
If we are talking WebOS, we are talking file storage, processing, backups, everything. No thanks.
If we are talking Web2.0 applications we are talking entering data (word processing, spreadsheets, photos, etc) on someone else's server, doing some editing, then saving back to my PC.
I'll tell you what; I have used Google Docs and spreadsheets for data that I wanted to collaborate with other people. But for the most part I wrote and edited in my office suite then uploaded and pulled down when complete. It's just not my thing.
Philly0381
Reply #13 Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:46 PM
Reply #13 Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:46 PM
I quess I read to much into your file being processed offsite statement. I read processed and automatically include storage. Just courious, what are the concern you have about the offsite processing? Security of information would be one of mine.
XX
Reply #14 Friday, April 13, 2007 3:04 AM
Reply #14 Friday, April 13, 2007 3:04 AM
Indeed. That is my concern. Suppose someone used an online text editor to edit vital top secret source code? Hopefully none of my future co-workers/employees/whatever is dumb enough to do that.
ZubaZ
Reply #15 Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:34 AM
Reply #15 Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:34 AM
I saw this article and thought it interesting in regards to this conversation:
Web Apps Can Never Be Desktop Replacements
Posted by: Matt Hartley on 04-12-2007.
"(Review) - We are seeing more and more articles appearing with the claim that everything we really need from an OS is available online. In the past, I have challenged this, submitting instead, the possibility that this is more or less wishful thinking that is shot down with the simple matter of a broadband outage." (more)
Posted by: Matt Hartley on 04-12-2007.
"(Review) - We are seeing more and more articles appearing with the claim that everything we really need from an OS is available online. In the past, I have challenged this, submitting instead, the possibility that this is more or less wishful thinking that is shot down with the simple matter of a broadband outage." (more)
Philly0381
Reply #16 Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:33 AM
Reply #16 Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:33 AM
Interesting read Zubaz. My intent for posting this link was to generate conversation.
Like most issues (OS's for one) there seems to be strong opinions about this subject.
Maybe not OSs but could Web based apps still find it's way into our computing future? This is where it would be great to have a time machine! Of course mankind would use it and screw the future up!!!!!!
Like most issues (OS's for one) there seems to be strong opinions about this subject.
Maybe not OSs but could Web based apps still find it's way into our computing future? This is where it would be great to have a time machine! Of course mankind would use it and screw the future up!!!!!!
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Reply #1 Monday, April 9, 2007 1:03 PM
When I started in home heath most of the sytems were thin terminals and network computers. As long as any OS runs the apps I want, it doesn't matter to me. Having said that, I'm still using Windows instead of Apple OSs or any flavor of *nix for day-to-day use.
I'll lay bets that next year this company is gone.