Dont ever ever ever EVER...
Updating, Installing, deleting WBA.
Tuesday, April 3, 2007 by vStyler | Discussion: Community
.....delete a skin and then reboot without applying another first.
This all comes back to the same problems with having to delete a skin manually before you can update it. Personally its causing me a bit of grief, I wish there was some way of automating it. Its the only app I use that you have delete a skin manually before updating it. Brainiac sent me an update to his newest skin, I delete the old one from Wbconfig. add the new..some of the images were from the OLD skin..come to find out there was more than one folder for it in the WB folder.. so.. I go to delete all the folders with his theme name AFTER switching to another theme.. and lo and behold.. the last one i had tried to delete wouldn't delete.. surprise surprise...the fonts werent letting it delete.. even though I had a new theme loaded.
SO.. I get everything deleted..he sent it to me again.. again.. the skin refused to apply properly..I deleted it again..and because..the final solution to EVERYthing WB is always.. " I guess i'll try reboot"....I did.
After coming back from a reboot NOTHING worked, nothing loaded.. My cpu fan sounded like a turbine engine.
I'm assuming WB was looking for the last theme that was loaded ( Brainiacs ) and could not find it. It apparently did not have a Plan B.
So.. and luckily for me.. I booted into G: Vista... of course i cant uninstall WB on C: from Vista and of course WB doesnt give you an option to "load on startup" SO.. only option left was delete the WB system files on C..from Vista.
So.. now I boot back into C..great.. now I have classic, WB cant load becauses ive deleted its files. So I go into SDC and reinstall it. Should fix it right? Of course not..After a reboot..what happens? same damn thing.. WB after being reinstalled is still pointing towards Brainiacs theme...WIndows still wont start to load.. system locked up..So I boot into Vista AGAIN.. delete everything this time..then back into XP..into classic, uninstalled all my Stardock apps, then SDC.. then scrubbed my registry and files for ANYthing Stardock or WB.
Finally after doing that and downloading, installing and rebooting again.. I'm back.
I hate to compare WB to StyleXP and I'm definately on WB to stay but I never had to do ANY of this on StyleXP.. it auto-updated and installed and deleted flawlessly.
SURELY something can be done to make updating , old and applying new skins can be better automated and more seamless. Surely!! 
...and finally to top it off... in my aggravation while in Vista..deleting away..I deleted my latest theme that I have beein toiling over for 2 solid weeks.
Nice eh?
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Reply #2 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:30 PM
That does sound really irritating though, having to always delete a skin first in order to update. That should be fixed somehow.
Reply #3 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:32 PM
Especially for the skinners\beta testers that share skin updates for testing purposes frequently.
Reply #4 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:36 PM
Reply #5 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:42 PM
That is the killer pain
...hope you have a backup "raw/work" folder somewhere safe?Reply #6 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:58 PM
Reply #7 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:59 PM
Reply #8 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:01 PM
Same here. At least now you'll know to keep backups of WIP I guess.
Reply #10 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:10 PM
Reply #11 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:14 PM
Takes about 20 minutes and it's saved me more times than you can count.
You can also back up just specific folders if you want.
Hell, you've been around long enough...do it now!
I'm a freak about emptying the Recycle Bin pretty fast too. At least you didn't have it set to just delete and not send it to the Bin. I don't know how many times I right-clicked a file to rename it and hit "Delete" instead of "Rename". Now that would be pretty horrible too.
Reply #13 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:27 PM
I usually ALWAYS do..\stoopid me
Turn it off as soon as I install XP
boss0190..saved my ass.. just for $hits n giggles I booted back into Vista.. and had everything I had deleted from C in it.
Apparently cos I havent positioned my desktop icons as I normally would have yet on Vista ( I hardly use it), I didnt instinctively empty it !
Thank god I hate Vista so far and free beer for ALL !
If i hadnt had a dual boot I think I would have been screwed, It seems that it WB cant find the skin it had been using previously it freaks out. maybe something to consider for next update.. No skin > Plan B > Luna.
Reply #15 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:30 PM
It worked !
Reply #16 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:59 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, April 4, 2007 12:16 AM
Point is still the process needs some work still on WB's part.Reply #18 Wednesday, April 4, 2007 12:23 AM
And yes...after that debacle something needs to be done.
Reply #19 Wednesday, April 4, 2007 1:04 AM
This is more than a minor bug that you can werk around...it can be a skinning nightmare and a system killer.
Reply #20 Wednesday, April 4, 2007 1:10 AM
it would be nice if Windowblinds defaulted at least to the Windows XP Classic skin and it would be even nicer if you could download an update to a skin without having to delete the previous existing skin. Whenever I post an update to a skin I find myself having to include the comments "please delete the previous version before downloading & applying this update".
If I didn't have so many substyles in a given skin it wouldn't be an issue, I would just rename with another version # and that would be it. But if I save an existing skin that I'm updating (that happens to have several substyles) in skinstudio with a different name, I lose all of my substyles, have to import them in, certain gui elements get lost, have to start looking for & importing the correct images, etc. It's just a pain.
Windowblinds is great but it could be better with regards to updating previously installed skins.
Question, you seem like you have a solid working knowledge of your system (dual booting, etc.), did you try winxp's safe mode when it wouldn't boot up regularly?
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Reply #1 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:24 PM