New DX Categories needed B A D
Wednesday, March 14, 2007 by RomanDA | Discussion: Widget talk
I know we have had discussions on new Gallery's but I really think we need these 2.
1. DX Gadgets - this would be for gadgets only, so people without DX could load these and know they would work, and people with DX would know that everything in the WIDGET Gallery is a widget that can be imported.
2. DX Weather/Clock - yes yes yes, anyone that has ever been in the DX Widgets gallery know that there and have done a "search" for "weather" will return you 7 pages of 32 widgets, or MORE. This is just weather, not to mention clocks. The problem is, these are almost all (not all Vad_M/Martin/Richard) the SAME widget, just with different "skins". Its getting old. you post something that you have spent a great deal of time working on, and in 2 days, its on page 3, behind 200 more of the SAME weather widgets.
If you agree, or disagree, please let us know. I think these could easily be added and would make things so much better. If DX is going to EVER evolve beyond a weather/clock widget maker, it has to be able to SHOW what is out there that ISNT one of these.
PLEASE PLEASE HEAR US!!!
1. DX Gadgets - this would be for gadgets only, so people without DX could load these and know they would work, and people with DX would know that everything in the WIDGET Gallery is a widget that can be imported.
2. DX Weather/Clock - yes yes yes, anyone that has ever been in the DX Widgets gallery know that there and have done a "search" for "weather" will return you 7 pages of 32 widgets, or MORE. This is just weather, not to mention clocks. The problem is, these are almost all (not all Vad_M/Martin/Richard) the SAME widget, just with different "skins". Its getting old. you post something that you have spent a great deal of time working on, and in 2 days, its on page 3, behind 200 more of the SAME weather widgets.
If you agree, or disagree, please let us know. I think these could easily be added and would make things so much better. If DX is going to EVER evolve beyond a weather/clock widget maker, it has to be able to SHOW what is out there that ISNT one of these.
PLEASE PLEASE HEAR US!!!
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ArileenDesign
Reply #102 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:07 PM
Reply #102 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:07 PM
Know that but in old this is the same Maybe a rebuilt like the right menu of gallery to allow users to keep what they want is the solution (in more to add a gadget gallery) 
RomanDA
Reply #103 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:31 PM
Reply #103 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:31 PM
Thanks for that Quentin94... I forget that thing is up there.
It does help a "LITTLE"... how about a simple solution..
Allow me choose what to show or not to show, and store it as a cookie?
It does help a "LITTLE"... how about a simple solution..
Allow me choose what to show or not to show, and store it as a cookie?
ArileenDesign
Reply #104 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:39 PM
no cookies for up selection.
But on right menu of gallery there is the solution cause the code allow you to change your settings and keep it like your personal page settings.
Think this is the solution here not?
Reply #104 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:39 PM
Allow me choose what to show or not to show, and store it as a cookie?
no cookies for up selection.
But on right menu of gallery there is the solution cause the code allow you to change your settings and keep it like your personal page settings.
Think this is the solution here not?
ZubaZ
Reply #105 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:42 PM
Reply #105 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:42 PM
There is an almost secret option to hide whole galleries from the gallery page. I wish that could be extended.
ArileenDesign
Reply #106 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:44 PM
just what i said
Poor english 
Reply #106 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:44 PM
There is an almost secret option to hide whole galleries from the gallery page. I wish that could be extended.
just what i said
Poor english 
RomanDA
Reply #107 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:56 PM
Reply #107 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:56 PM
Is it like double-secret probation? I think i have been on THAT before..
Man this post is getting a lot of action, maybe someone will see it and give us some options??
Man this post is getting a lot of action, maybe someone will see it and give us some options??
ZubaZ
Reply #108 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:12 PM
Practice, practice, practice
Reply #108 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:12 PM
just what i said Poor english
Practice, practice, practice
Vad_M
Reply #109 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:27 PM
Reply #109 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:27 PM
For Tiggs: Matt! First of all I must say that you are the first man who show me the way for DesktopX understanding. Due to you I have believed to the Great Potential of this software and have loved it. Great thanks for this! I'm really happy to see you again and to talk with you.
Then I must say there are some things here which I can't understand because these things are impossible in my country. For example why the Community stays indifferent when one of the best authors are disappears from this page and nobody know nothing what happened to him. It seems to me this is not good...
I love widgets too and I agree that they have enourmous potential which not realized. However this work takes a lot of time (at least from me) if we really creates a "widgets" but not a "skins". Some time ago I was so fascinated on this that has nearly lost my main business that bring me money!
Problem is already solved. But it was a "good lesson" compelled me to find the way how spend my free time more rationally. (I think that the similar problems with the lack of time have a lot of people here).
Ok. I'll be waitting for your new additions. Particularly a widget which uses WB skin (I have some ideas how to do this and it would be great to see how you have realized this on a practice).
Then I must say there are some things here which I can't understand because these things are impossible in my country. For example why the Community stays indifferent when one of the best authors are disappears from this page and nobody know nothing what happened to him. It seems to me this is not good...
I love widgets too and I agree that they have enourmous potential which not realized. However this work takes a lot of time (at least from me) if we really creates a "widgets" but not a "skins". Some time ago I was so fascinated on this that has nearly lost my main business that bring me money!
Problem is already solved. But it was a "good lesson" compelled me to find the way how spend my free time more rationally. (I think that the similar problems with the lack of time have a lot of people here). Ok. I'll be waitting for your new additions. Particularly a widget which uses WB skin (I have some ideas how to do this and it would be great to see how you have realized this on a practice).
c242
Reply #110 Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:21 AM
Me too.
Reply #110 Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:21 AM
Particularly a widget which uses WB skin (I have some ideas how to do this and it would be great to see how you have realized this on a practice).
Me too.
Vad_M
Reply #111 Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:19 AM
Reply #111 Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:19 AM
For c242: I think that "Skinable" widgets will be the next generation of these applications. You and RomanDA have already done the first step on this direction. And this is very good. 
I have no time to work on this yet but I can give you a several advices that help you to make the next step.
1. You may look at the WindowBlinds keys in the Windows registers (use regedit for this):
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Stardock\WindowBlinds\WB5.ini\WBLiteFX\Skinset"
This is a skin that installed on your computer.
2. You may open this skin in the Skin Studio and look what images are used for this skin. Then you need only to chose the necessary *.bmp or *.tga and apply them to your widget (object.picture = image path).
Open a folder with this skin if you have Skin Studio installed, look at the *.uis file (use notepad for this) to find the necessary images. Then use object.picture = image path.
As you see this is not a hard way.
I have no time to work on this yet but I can give you a several advices that help you to make the next step.1. You may look at the WindowBlinds keys in the Windows registers (use regedit for this):
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Stardock\WindowBlinds\WB5.ini\WBLiteFX\Skinset"
This is a skin that installed on your computer.
2. You may open this skin in the Skin Studio and look what images are used for this skin. Then you need only to chose the necessary *.bmp or *.tga and apply them to your widget (object.picture = image path).
Open a folder with this skin if you have Skin Studio installed, look at the *.uis file (use notepad for this) to find the necessary images. Then use object.picture = image path.
As you see this is not a hard way.
c242
Reply #112 Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:14 PM
Reply #112 Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:14 PM
Vad : I have based many of the skins of my sSI on WB-graphics and therefore looked at the wb's and loaded graphics from skinstudio converted to png. The problem is the variety of those. Sometimes I used portions of the startmenu and sometimes portions of the "Please Wait" screens and the contained progress bars or a mix of all of them. In either way I had to cut things out and paste some new bits to make them fit and look good. So I am very sceptical on being able to automate this process. A way would be to choose the menu backgrounds everytime, but that would make quite boring skins.
Nevertheless good suggestions.
Nevertheless good suggestions.
c242
Reply #113 Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:46 PM
Reply #113 Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:46 PM
Another idea would be to let DesktopX itself have some form if Skin-Importer, but I don't see that happen anytime soon.
Vad_M
Reply #114 Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:00 PM
Reply #114 Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:00 PM
Ok. I undestood how you have realized this. But it would be exactly cool if the widget will find and change its skin automatically. This may be possible if its form will be "friendly" for some WB skin parts... So let's think about. (Sorry that I don't see your next post...)
c242
Reply #115 Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:15 PM
That one for sure. Or we had some super duper gadget that wb skinners just desired to add a graphic for that themselves.
Reply #115 Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:15 PM
But it would be exactly cool if the widget will find and change its skin automatically. This may be possible if its form will be "friendly" for some WB skin parts... So let's think about.
That one for sure.
Or we had some super duper gadget that wb skinners just desired to add a graphic for that themselves.
Vad_M
Reply #116 Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
Reply #116 Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
Yes! And nobody will not know nothing about how it works. It will be our little secret. 
It will be our little secret. 
MySecret
Reply #117 Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:26 PM
It's My Secret
Reply #117 Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:26 PM
Or we had some super duper gadget that wb skinners just desired to add a graphic for that themselves.
Yes! And nobody will not know nothing about how it works. It will be our little secret.
It's My Secret
Fairyy~
Reply #118 Friday, March 23, 2007 7:05 AM
Then I guess a lot of us won't bother renewing DesktopX if there is nothing left for us ' simple folks ' to skin.
Reply #118 Friday, March 23, 2007 7:05 AM
Yes! And nobody will not know nothing about how it works. It will be our little secret.
Then I guess a lot of us won't bother renewing DesktopX if there is nothing left for us ' simple folks ' to skin.
Vad_M
Reply #119 Friday, March 23, 2007 8:33 AM
Reply #119 Friday, March 23, 2007 8:33 AM
Oh!!! It was just a little joke for Carl! And you will be the first who will know about if I'll get any positive results in this experiment. Promise.
It was just a little joke for Carl! And you will be the first who will know about if I'll get any positive results in this experiment. Promise.Please login to comment and/or vote for this skin.
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Reply #101 Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:04 PM