VISTA Acronym
woe is my PC
Saturday, February 17, 2007 by Phoon | Discussion: Bugs
Well, this afternoon I decided to give vista a try outside of my virtual environment and actually peform a fresh install on my PC.
First step.. I ran the upgrade advisor and obtained proper drivers which would be needed. ( Sound Card )
Last night, I purchased Trend Micro AV 2007 as my new anti-virus solution as well.
So I pop the CD in and begin the process.
Everything was going fine until I went to choose my time zone. As soon as I clicked on it.. BAM! A rock solid lock up which required a power off.
I repeated this same proceedure about 3 times with the same result. To move forward, I just stuck with Pacific Time and moved on.
In short, even after I was up and running, hard lockups were more normal regular than stable behavior...
I started anew with a fresh install and got everything installed properly. I was up and running for about 15 mins when ( I bet you can't guess.. )MORE LOCKUPS.
After a hard reboot, I ran Windows updates and flagged my C drive for a check on next reboot.
So that is where it stands at the moment. I am watching CHKDSK count and verify the massive amounts of clusters at this point.
This is the most disgusting adventure into a new MS Operating system that I have ever encountered. My system is no slouch at all and should be flawless at running this.
All I can say at this point is that to me the word VISTA has taken on a whole new meaning...
V - vile
I - irritating
S - system
T - transformation
A - adaptability
First step.. I ran the upgrade advisor and obtained proper drivers which would be needed. ( Sound Card )
Last night, I purchased Trend Micro AV 2007 as my new anti-virus solution as well.
So I pop the CD in and begin the process.
Everything was going fine until I went to choose my time zone. As soon as I clicked on it.. BAM! A rock solid lock up which required a power off.
I repeated this same proceedure about 3 times with the same result. To move forward, I just stuck with Pacific Time and moved on.
In short, even after I was up and running, hard lockups were more normal regular than stable behavior...
I started anew with a fresh install and got everything installed properly. I was up and running for about 15 mins when ( I bet you can't guess.. )MORE LOCKUPS.
After a hard reboot, I ran Windows updates and flagged my C drive for a check on next reboot.
So that is where it stands at the moment. I am watching CHKDSK count and verify the massive amounts of clusters at this point.
This is the most disgusting adventure into a new MS Operating system that I have ever encountered. My system is no slouch at all and should be flawless at running this.
All I can say at this point is that to me the word VISTA has taken on a whole new meaning...
V - vile
I - irritating
S - system
T - transformation
A - adaptability
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ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #42 Sunday, March 25, 2007 11:02 PM
Reply #42 Sunday, March 25, 2007 11:02 PM
When we first got vista early last year it was really something to run at work and the boss's all said right then and there " We are switching over ASAP!" I was shocked and ready to run for a door. But there was no place to run. Then it finally happened in Nov 06 - when it came out for business's. God I thought I was gona die trying to just talk to people about the problems and all that. Did not work... so I got the very fine word from on high up... " You are going to school for this new OS and get all the info on it to find us a way to run it properly!" No not me - ya you!
So I spend weeks in Chicago doing just that and find out that everything we where learning about the New Vista OS was being rewritten as we where in the process of learning what was already ready. I was ready to get out of there! Finally it was over and then back to work I go and find out they bought all new terminals for every work station ... all Vista ready and so called ready to go!
I've seen Longhorn and servers that I thought would never be complete. Then we got 3 new Vista servers and Longhorn. Then they update everything to Vista. Longhorn and all... I wanted to scream. It was long nights till who knows you got to go home.
Finally we get everything up to date and all the servers are complete and running nicely.
I could say this tho - IT IS WORTH IT!!!
I've had less problems with the new Vista Business System and the Servers than anything I've ever worked with. We are now doing 10 times as much work than we did last year with all the problems from the XP OS and enviroments.
Thus I'm a total Vista person and have found that I'll be always running Vista due to the fact that I believe in what the future has to hold for us with Vista and whatever else they come up with [which they claim to be working on a new one as I write this]!!!
Give it time and you all will learn from your mistakes and study the true meaning of this new OS and find it is really worth it all.
Maybe ??? Good Luck and Keep Trying harder...
SGT
So I spend weeks in Chicago doing just that and find out that everything we where learning about the New Vista OS was being rewritten as we where in the process of learning what was already ready. I was ready to get out of there! Finally it was over and then back to work I go and find out they bought all new terminals for every work station ... all Vista ready and so called ready to go!
I've seen Longhorn and servers that I thought would never be complete. Then we got 3 new Vista servers and Longhorn. Then they update everything to Vista. Longhorn and all... I wanted to scream. It was long nights till who knows you got to go home.
Finally we get everything up to date and all the servers are complete and running nicely.
I could say this tho - IT IS WORTH IT!!!
I've had less problems with the new Vista Business System and the Servers than anything I've ever worked with. We are now doing 10 times as much work than we did last year with all the problems from the XP OS and enviroments.
Thus I'm a total Vista person and have found that I'll be always running Vista due to the fact that I believe in what the future has to hold for us with Vista and whatever else they come up with [which they claim to be working on a new one as I write this]!!!
Give it time and you all will learn from your mistakes and study the true meaning of this new OS and find it is really worth it all.
Maybe ??? Good Luck and Keep Trying harder...
SGT
starkers
Reply #43 Monday, March 26, 2007 3:12 AM
Never a truer word spoken...yet Apple still has the hide to put out those insipid ads that say nothing definitive about its OS, only to denigrate another.
Reply #43 Monday, March 26, 2007 3:12 AM
Victoriously Inventive System Trounces Apple's
Never a truer word spoken...yet Apple still has the hide to put out those insipid ads that say nothing definitive about its OS, only to denigrate another.
Allen Malcolm
Reply #44 Monday, March 26, 2007 11:13 AM
Reply #44 Monday, March 26, 2007 11:13 AM
ya know SGT, I want to agree with you, I really do, but the whole purpose of making a new operating system is increased ease of use, and greater reliability.
When Vista hit the states, practically no hardware support was ready for it (the machines in my shop that had all ran like lightning on XP Pro, now were running in 256 color mode, since there were no drivers for our video cards), the coding was so off that trying to install existing versions of McAfee or Office crashed the OS, and we had to REFORMAT to get the OS working again.
There's no "ease of use", unless you think that having to throw out 90% of what you know about any prior Windows OS easy, to the point that most of our clients were sending their newer machines back to us to have Vista removed, so they could have XP put back on...
Vista's pretty... I'll give it that... but having end users tell us they had to SEARCH for the Print button's just bloody ridiculous.
I dunno, after the leaps and bounds of usability that Windows made from 3.1 to 95, and from 95 to 98, and from 98 to XP, I just thought I'd get more out of it, and not the hullabaloo of issues that it gave us...
When Vista hit the states, practically no hardware support was ready for it (the machines in my shop that had all ran like lightning on XP Pro, now were running in 256 color mode, since there were no drivers for our video cards), the coding was so off that trying to install existing versions of McAfee or Office crashed the OS, and we had to REFORMAT to get the OS working again.
There's no "ease of use", unless you think that having to throw out 90% of what you know about any prior Windows OS easy, to the point that most of our clients were sending their newer machines back to us to have Vista removed, so they could have XP put back on...
Vista's pretty... I'll give it that... but having end users tell us they had to SEARCH for the Print button's just bloody ridiculous.
I dunno, after the leaps and bounds of usability that Windows made from 3.1 to 95, and from 95 to 98, and from 98 to XP, I just thought I'd get more out of it, and not the hullabaloo of issues that it gave us...
vStyler
Reply #45 Monday, March 26, 2007 1:16 PM
The problem is a LOT of folks arent on brand new Vista ready business servers..hence the golbal reaction being so harsh.
Personally I'm positive in the near future it will be a better, more secure system but the re-designed UI is just horribly counter-intuitive IMO and inhibits the skinner's ability to do what he once could..a step backwards at best..at this time.
Reply #45 Monday, March 26, 2007 1:16 PM
I've had less problems with the new Vista Business System and the Servers than anything I've ever worked with.
The problem is a LOT of folks arent on brand new Vista ready business servers..hence the golbal reaction being so harsh.
Personally I'm positive in the near future it will be a better, more secure system but the re-designed UI is just horribly counter-intuitive IMO and inhibits the skinner's ability to do what he once could..a step backwards at best..at this time.
Nimbin
Reply #47 Monday, March 26, 2007 8:29 PM
Reply #47 Monday, March 26, 2007 8:29 PM
i will be upgrading to vista in the near future, just waiting and watching for reviews and problems to surface, as with all new operating systems there are bound to be a few issues. I dont blame microsoft for this as it is just a way of life. i will probably wait until service pack 1 for vista before i upgrade. if that is what it will be called anyway. 
messiah1
Reply #49 Monday, March 26, 2007 9:50 PM
Another good one Jafo.
Reply #49 Monday, March 26, 2007 9:50 PM
Victoriously Inventive System Trounces Apple's
Another good one Jafo.
BigDogBigFeet
Reply #50 Monday, March 26, 2007 10:26 PM
Reply #50 Monday, March 26, 2007 10:26 PM
Virtually Invisible Systems Technical Advancement
starkers
Reply #52 Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:02 AM
Reply #52 Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:02 AM
Backwards.....Apple Talk StevieBoy Into Vacating. 
ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #53 Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:21 AM
If my memory serves me good all of those systems where designed mainly for the John Q Public to use and enjoy. Vista was aimed at the Business structure of the end user.
John this is in the hands of the holder one could say. With this OS [Vista] there are more possibles to what the skinner can do than there ever was with XP. Due to the fact that it does not work the same does not make it less of a system. Only that you are not having the proper knowledge to work with it yet. That will be solved and then a lot of people will see what the difference is. I feel once the walls are down and we all see whats what a lot of things will come into focus and it will be time to say good bye to XP.
My self I've already done so. Oh I still got the ole OS here in many forms. But I rarely use it at all now. I'm hooked on Vista.
Just give it time John - people are working very hard to give you exactly what you are wanting. Thus when they are done you will be able to skin Vista as you want too. You are not alone - there is a very large group of skinners just waiting and still working hard as ever to get what they want at whatever the cost may be also!
and as for this thread here is my acro
Vista Insight System Tomorrows Advances
SGT
Reply #53 Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:21 AM
I dunno, after the leaps and bounds of usability that Windows made from 3.1 to 95, and from 95 to 98, and from 98 to XP, I just thought I'd get more out of it, and not the hullabaloo of issues that it gave us...
If my memory serves me good all of those systems where designed mainly for the John Q Public to use and enjoy. Vista was aimed at the Business structure of the end user.
Personally I'm positive in the near future it will be a better, more secure system but the re-designed UI is just horribly counter-intuitive IMO and inhibits the skinner's ability to do what he once could..a step backwards at best..at this time.
John this is in the hands of the holder one could say. With this OS [Vista] there are more possibles to what the skinner can do than there ever was with XP. Due to the fact that it does not work the same does not make it less of a system. Only that you are not having the proper knowledge to work with it yet. That will be solved and then a lot of people will see what the difference is. I feel once the walls are down and we all see whats what a lot of things will come into focus and it will be time to say good bye to XP.
My self I've already done so. Oh I still got the ole OS here in many forms. But I rarely use it at all now. I'm hooked on Vista.
Just give it time John - people are working very hard to give you exactly what you are wanting. Thus when they are done you will be able to skin Vista as you want too. You are not alone - there is a very large group of skinners just waiting and still working hard as ever to get what they want at whatever the cost may be also!
and as for this thread here is my acro
Vista Insight System Tomorrows Advances
SGT
DesignCaddy
Reply #54 Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:22 PM
Reply #54 Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:22 PM
visually inspiring swell technological acheivements.
( i guess i'm one of a few who has no troubles
UAC on the other hand...
(U)surping (A)ccess to your (C)omputer
( i guess i'm one of a few who has no troubles
UAC on the other hand...
(U)surping (A)ccess to your (C)omputer
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Reply #41 Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:47 PM