In need of a Moderator's Assistance
Saturday, February 17, 2007 by Skinned Alive | Discussion: Skinning
I was wondering if any Moderator could do me a favor and please delete my section of Chinese Zodiac BootSkins. They're not doing well, probably a total of 250 downloads, taking up server space, and kind of an eye sore between the other Skins. People have to go an extra page or two just to get around them. I really do appreciate you guys taking the time and letting me put them up, especially giving me a rating of 7, but sometimes things just aren't a success. Now Mr. Martin, chances are you've probably got this whole Website Linked with the Forums on High Priority Alert to your Cell Phone, 'cause you always seem to be around. 
Anyway, for the people who had downloaded them, Thank You, and consider them a "While Quantities Last" BootSkin.
Thank You once again guys,
John
Anyway, for the people who had downloaded them, Thank You, and consider them a "While Quantities Last" BootSkin.
Thank You once again guys,
John
Jafo
Reply #2 Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:31 PM
Reply #2 Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:31 PM
Now Mr. Martin, chances are you've probably got this whole Website Linked with the Forums on High Priority Alert to your Cell Phone, 'cause you always seem to be around.
No...we call 'em mobile phones here...
Unfortunately there is no 'faster' way for an Admin to remove a person's content than that person doing it....one at a time.
I put them up...so it's only fair you save me the time to take them down.
BTW...if I were you I'd simply leave them....and move on a little...generally this is a problem when there are so many new ones at once.
DL's will likely pick up over time...
Skinhit
Reply #4 Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:11 PM
Reply #4 Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:11 PM
skinned alive...do the download totals really matter that much to you??? it shouldn't...what does matter, is that the skins in question were important to 250 people...i mean i have stuff that has like 20 downloads after 3 months, but 20 people felt they needed it and that matters to me...just my 2 cents brother...
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #5 Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:17 PM
Reply #5 Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:17 PM
I put my uh,less well received items on my personal page.
boss0190
Reply #6 Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:18 PM
Reply #6 Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:18 PM
I'm in total agreement with Skinhit on this one.
I think this is the second time...something's not right.
I think this is the second time...something's not right.
Skinned Alive
Reply #9 Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:38 AM
That they do my friend.
I base the quality of my work on the people's wants. I like getting a good rating from a Moderator or whomever approves the BootSkin, but what really matters is the public's desire, which to me is based on their downloads. If not many downloads are acquired, then the Skin just isn't worthy. If there's a lot of downloads in a short period of time, then in the words of my good 'ole friend Uncle Rob, "Looks like we got a hit on this one!"
Reply #9 Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:38 AM
skinned alive...do the download totals really matter that much to you???
That they do my friend.
I base the quality of my work on the people's wants. I like getting a good rating from a Moderator or whomever approves the BootSkin, but what really matters is the public's desire, which to me is based on their downloads. If not many downloads are acquired, then the Skin just isn't worthy. If there's a lot of downloads in a short period of time, then in the words of my good 'ole friend Uncle Rob, "Looks like we got a hit on this one!"
boss0190
Reply #10 Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:51 PM
Reply #10 Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:51 PM
Quality and popularity are two totally different things.
I can make a logon with grass and "Vista" plastered all over it and whether it works or not, it will get massive downloads. I've downloaded many of them that didn't work, or only worked at one resolution, and had thousands of downloads and not one comment about the problems with it.
And then I can make a first quality logon with a less "popular style" wallpaper in it and get hardly any downloads.
If you know you make quailty boots..and I don't know because I don't use them..then the number of downloads shouldn't matter.
You clearly are not making them because you like them and use them yourself but for other people, downloads and stats, which is fine. It's just not the reason I skin.
It sounds more like marketing than art to me. Which is neither good nor bad...just a different reason for skinning. No big deal, no problem...just my opinion.
I can make a logon with grass and "Vista" plastered all over it and whether it works or not, it will get massive downloads. I've downloaded many of them that didn't work, or only worked at one resolution, and had thousands of downloads and not one comment about the problems with it.
And then I can make a first quality logon with a less "popular style" wallpaper in it and get hardly any downloads.
If you know you make quailty boots..and I don't know because I don't use them..then the number of downloads shouldn't matter.
You clearly are not making them because you like them and use them yourself but for other people, downloads and stats, which is fine. It's just not the reason I skin.
It sounds more like marketing than art to me. Which is neither good nor bad...just a different reason for skinning. No big deal, no problem...just my opinion.
Jafo
Reply #11 Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:16 PM
Reply #11 Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:16 PM
Skinned ....I think you were your own worst enemy by uploading so many at once.
You 'could' have spread the ups over a week or two ....and almost definitely attracted more interest/dls [longer exposure].
Flooding any gallery....should really be seen as the 'not good' way to do it...
Skinned Alive
Reply #12 Monday, February 19, 2007 6:21 AM
Reply #12 Monday, February 19, 2007 6:21 AM
I realized that after I opened the dam Paul. That's another reason for the deletion.
And Boss, Quality is based on popularity. Otherwise, we'd be calling everybody stupid for liking what they like based on a "common grounds" interest.
We each have our own personal likes, dislikes, and tastes, but the majority always rules in favor of what's best. That's common sense. I always told myself that one day, if I ever think that everybody is crazy, then I'll know for sure that I'm the crazy one.
P.S.
Another reason for advanced Skinners getting more downloads than those who make mistakes, is if someone downloads your Skin once, maybe, and I do mean a maybe, twice, and it's messed up, they won't be coming back.
But those who do download and get a good high quality Skin, will keep coming back. The proof is in the comments we always get. Plus I like to check the Download I.P. Addresses of those who download from me.
And Boss, Quality is based on popularity. Otherwise, we'd be calling everybody stupid for liking what they like based on a "common grounds" interest.
We each have our own personal likes, dislikes, and tastes, but the majority always rules in favor of what's best. That's common sense. I always told myself that one day, if I ever think that everybody is crazy, then I'll know for sure that I'm the crazy one.
P.S.
Another reason for advanced Skinners getting more downloads than those who make mistakes, is if someone downloads your Skin once, maybe, and I do mean a maybe, twice, and it's messed up, they won't be coming back.
But those who do download and get a good high quality Skin, will keep coming back. The proof is in the comments we always get. Plus I like to check the Download I.P. Addresses of those who download from me.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #13 Monday, February 19, 2007 6:41 AM
Reply #13 Monday, February 19, 2007 6:41 AM
I tend to flood my gallery from time to time and it certainly has an effect on download counts.
Jafo is dead on.
It is all about sharing. Not everything can/should be for the masses. If 10 people connect with your work then there are 10 people that found exactly what they wanted. Removing less popular stuff from the libraries removes those skins forever. People are not gonna judge your work based on downloads. Quality keeps them coming back.
Jafo is dead on.
It is all about sharing. Not everything can/should be for the masses. If 10 people connect with your work then there are 10 people that found exactly what they wanted. Removing less popular stuff from the libraries removes those skins forever. People are not gonna judge your work based on downloads. Quality keeps them coming back.
Jafo
Reply #14 Monday, February 19, 2007 6:42 AM
Reply #14 Monday, February 19, 2007 6:42 AM
Well....Wincustomize is different things to different people.
There's more than one way to utilize/enjoy the amenities....
If someone prefers to cull poor performing uploads....that's fine, or not...that's fine, too....
unclerob
Reply #15 Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:13 PM
Reply #15 Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:13 PM
Johnny I told you that you should have kept them, I liked 'em!
Plus no one will ever be able to read my fortune (cookie) joke....
- geez... look what you've done?!
I told you before your stuff is awesome, you put alot more effort into your bootskins than most (myself included), technically they were very original as subject matter goes, I didn't see too many other zodiac themed bootskins in that section.
In the end it's your call because it's your work but for what it's worth - I thought they were good.
Keep on Keepin' on!
Plus no one will ever be able to read my fortune (cookie) joke....
- geez... look what you've done?!
I told you before your stuff is awesome, you put alot more effort into your bootskins than most (myself included), technically they were very original as subject matter goes, I didn't see too many other zodiac themed bootskins in that section.
In the end it's your call because it's your work but for what it's worth - I thought they were good.
Keep on Keepin' on!
Skinned Alive
Reply #16 Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:51 PM
Reply #16 Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:51 PM
Thank you for the great compliments and your personal liking of the Skins Rob!
I just had to do it. Maybe it was more of an eye sore for myself just 'cause I see numbers prioritized over images. Me and my Left Brain again.
Anyway, if anyone would still like to see Rob's great "Fortune" cookie joke, click on this Link:
Rob's great Cookie Line
I just had to do it. Maybe it was more of an eye sore for myself just 'cause I see numbers prioritized over images. Me and my Left Brain again.
Anyway, if anyone would still like to see Rob's great "Fortune" cookie joke, click on this Link:
Rob's great Cookie Line
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #18 Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:35 AM
Reply #18 Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:35 AM
I gotta go with Boss onthis one...dl'ds does not equal quality...only popularity.
Some will download anything with Vista on it...some will dl anything blue...
Night train and Jafo are correct too...(as you saw),flooding does impact dl'ds.
I didnt see anything wrong with what you did...but did you take into account that people only needed the zodiac that applied to them?
Some will download anything with Vista on it...some will dl anything blue...
Night train and Jafo are correct too...(as you saw),flooding does impact dl'ds.
I didnt see anything wrong with what you did...but did you take into account that people only needed the zodiac that applied to them?
Skinned Alive
Reply #19 Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:50 AM
Reply #19 Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:50 AM
Mr. Martin,
could you do me a favor Sir?
Could you please delete this Post.
It's been up for almost a week and has branched off of Topic with people still posting.
It's kind of like beating a dead horse now.
Thank You Sir.
Actually, come to thing of it, this wasn't even a Topic to begin with but only an asked favor.
could you do me a favor Sir?
Could you please delete this Post.
It's been up for almost a week and has branched off of Topic with people still posting.
It's kind of like beating a dead horse now.
Thank You Sir.
Actually, come to thing of it, this wasn't even a Topic to begin with but only an asked favor.
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Reply #1 Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:31 PM
Thanks!