Do we really want the cranky Frog back?
Spending more time in the community
Thursday, January 25, 2007 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Years ago, I lived on the forums on WC. Not just WC but on forums all over the place. There was a joke once that if you said my name 3 times on a forum, I would magically appear and havoc would ensue.
So why did I stop? Too busy? That's some of it. But a bigger reason is that I tend to not always be..the most politically correct guy around.
Or to put it another way, recently I got hooked on a new show after having multiple, independent people tell me I am just like a specific fictional character -- Dr. House on the TV show House. Not that it's a perfect fit (I don't think anyone would say I'm unethical) but I can be pretty cranky.
I'd say I'm more of a cross between Rearden from Atlas Shrugged and House. But it's still the same difference. I'm an evil, blood-thirsty capitalist. I've been an evil, blood-thirsty capitalist from day 1. When the first skinning sites opened, I was there.
Here's an article I wrote on the subject:
https://www.wincustomize.com/Articles.aspx?SID=1&AID=136943
Another reason I was gone is that I felt WC2K5 kind of sucked. The ugly light blue look. The way the site was poorly organized or crashing or just plain slow. I just didn't like it.
And too many of the people hanging out were boring or at least boorish and elitist. I saw people being snide and rude to new users as if applying little bitmaps to your user interface is somehow an intuitive thing. So I stayed away.
I also didn't like how ratings were done. T-man and I argued about this. If you watch House, T-man is like Dr. Wilson (i.e. super nice). I'm not nice. I don't think most of you should be allowed to rate skins. I originally had it that only other skinners could rate skins. But it got changed so that subscribers could also rate which really bugged me. But once a feature is given, it's hard to take it away. But with WC2K7, we changed that. Now ratings are weighted. So non-skinners who have subscriptions can rate but if a skinner votes, it counts for a lot more in determining the overall rating. If someone hates that, you can start your own thread and complain there. Like I said, if I were total emperor and could turn back time, only skinners would be allowed to rate things at all. If I work hard on a skin, I don't want some random guy giving me a 1 and wrecking my rating.
Getting back to WC2K7...I really like it. If they can get IIS to quit crashing randomly (which is why sometimes it's really really fast and other times you sit there waiting 30 seconds) it'll be totally awesome. I love the bread-crumbs. I find it easy to navigate and much easier to write articles.
But we need to do more. We need to start following up on the Stardock failures of 2006. Admitting you have a problem is only the first step after all. 
So anyway, my question to you guys is, is WC better off with the main administrator face being the volunteers along with Jafo and Zoomba who are nice? Or do you think it would work out if I started to increase my presence again even though I'm kind of a jerk that should be locked up in a lab coding stuff rather than telling users that I don't want them to ever purchase our software again?
You can tell me the truth. I'm already in the fetal postiion.
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Reply #62 Monday, March 5, 2007 9:15 AM
Reply #63 Monday, March 5, 2007 9:20 AM
We can agree or disagree and if I'm sufficiently miffed, I can take my few pitiful toys and leave if I feel I must.
Carry on!
Reply #64 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:51 AM
Since you or Frogboy made it so I can't post or email anyone, I had to create another account. Now you can remove both conure58 and bobdown from your system. Why didn't do what I requested in the first place? Do you like other people to see that requests can't be honored? Please remove conure58 and bobdown from your site.
Reply #65 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:56 AM
Reply #66 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:58 AM
Reply #67 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 10:10 AM
Reply #68 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 10:13 AM
Reply #69 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 10:50 AM
We leave it up to the user to remove their information.
https://www.wincustomize.com/myaccount.aspx
Through those tabs, you can blank out your personal information.
As for removing all trace of you from the site in the form of comments, forum posts, articles etc. We don't do that period.
Reply #70 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 4:10 PM
We leave it up to the user to remove their information.
https://www.wincustomize.com/myaccount.aspx
Through those tabs, you can blank out your personal information.
As for removing all trace of you from the site in the form of comments, forum posts, articles etc. We don't do that period.
So why didn't one of you mods say that in the first place instead of restricting my other account (not being able to post in the forums). That's the only reason I created another account. I wasn't able to ask why I wasn't being removed. I imagine this account will have the same thing done, so you can silence me. Thought I read somewhere about elitism. Guess I found it. I just wonder if you're able to restrict access, why you wouldn't be able to remove usernames, etc from the site. I never said anything about removing comments, posts, articles, etc., just my usernames. I think it's a valid request. Or did I miss something in your fine print that said 'once we have you, you can't get out'.
Reply #71 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 4:56 PM
Being able to post in the forums is not a right.
In addition, demanding sites purge the database of basic account data that's cached is akin to demanding search engines remove cached versions of something you made.
I'm not aware of any site that allows people to literally purge the very record of their existence. Remove your stuff and change whatever data and you're all set.
This is all I have to say on the matter.
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Reply #61 Monday, March 5, 2007 9:00 AM
Anyway, I like having you in the forums even if I dont always agree what you say or the way you deal with some things. At least..as far as I can see you stick to your story and..