Attention Mods; Missing Wall????
Tuesday, November 28, 2006 by PoSmedley | Discussion: WinCustomize Site Issues
My latest wall was approved, and shows in 'My Skins' but I can't see it in the wallpaper gallery. http://posmedley.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SkinID=29419&LibID=8&comments=1
I thought maybe it had to do with getting only 4 stars and my not having renewed my subscription and unable to see lower rated stuff...but...I can see my OD icon which also only has 4 stars.
http://posmedley.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SkinID=11487&LibID=29&comments=1
The wall has had zero downloads or comments since it passed moderation. which was sometime early this morning I believe..not to sound concieted, but I usually have at least one dl by now, so I am assuming no one else can see it either.
I thought maybe it had to do with getting only 4 stars and my not having renewed my subscription and unable to see lower rated stuff...but...I can see my OD icon which also only has 4 stars.
http://posmedley.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SkinID=11487&LibID=29&comments=1
The wall has had zero downloads or comments since it passed moderation. which was sometime early this morning I believe..not to sound concieted, but I usually have at least one dl by now, so I am assuming no one else can see it either.
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Jafo
Reply #2 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:25 AM
Reply #2 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:25 AM
Po' ...the wall is set to 'personal page' as the mods determined that as the appropriate destination...
PoSmedley
Reply #4 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:02 AM
Was this mentioned in the upload notification? (I didn't look at it in detail)
hmmm.
Not sure how I feel about this new feature.
because it got only 4 stars?
Really not sure at all how I feel about this new feature.
Before, it may have been rejected, which would often force me to rethink it and try a different approach. Now, it feels like it's relegated to limbo.
Reply #4 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:02 AM
| the wall is set to 'personal page' |
Was this mentioned in the upload notification? (I didn't look at it in detail)
hmmm.
Not sure how I feel about this new feature.
| the mods determined that as the appropriate destination. |
because it got only 4 stars?
Really not sure at all how I feel about this new feature.
Before, it may have been rejected, which would often force me to rethink it and try a different approach. Now, it feels like it's relegated to limbo.
Jafo
Reply #5 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:22 AM
Reply #5 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:22 AM
| Before, it may have been rejected, which would often force me to rethink it and try a different approach. Now, it feels like it's relegated to limbo. |
Current Wincustomize.com thinking sees this approach as 'softer' than outright rejection through moderation as the work still is uploaded for public access. This means that the more 'strange' works get an airing where before they would have been deemed too 'odd' aka unsuitable as walls....
PoSmedley
Reply #6 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:28 AM
Reply #6 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:28 AM
Personally, I rarely cruise the 'personal galleries'. Did I miss it, or was a poll taken to see how many people actually browse those galleries for work?
Just seems kinda lost there. I understand the 'softer' approach thing, but perhaps another 'category' would have been the answer in this approach. It's kind of reminds me of some of the comments I see at DA about the 'Daily Deviations' and what makes it as featured, only a step down from that.
I understand a lot of people have questions/issues/problems with rejections...I have questioned one or two myself...but I almost would prefer rejection to pacification (for lack of a better word).
If it's 'approved' for the 'personal gallery' only, is it really approved? I could have just put it in my photo gallery.
I deleted the 'upload notification', but was it mentioned in that , that the work was approved but only for my personal gallery? I would like to know if that is being done, so I can check the notifications on further submissions.
Just seems kinda lost there. I understand the 'softer' approach thing, but perhaps another 'category' would have been the answer in this approach. It's kind of reminds me of some of the comments I see at DA about the 'Daily Deviations' and what makes it as featured, only a step down from that.
I understand a lot of people have questions/issues/problems with rejections...I have questioned one or two myself...but I almost would prefer rejection to pacification (for lack of a better word).
If it's 'approved' for the 'personal gallery' only, is it really approved? I could have just put it in my photo gallery.
I deleted the 'upload notification', but was it mentioned in that , that the work was approved but only for my personal gallery? I would like to know if that is being done, so I can check the notifications on further submissions.
Jafo
Reply #7 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:40 AM
Reply #7 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:40 AM
| but was it mentioned in that , that the work was approved but only for my personal gallery? I would like to know if that is being done, so I can check the notifications on further submissions |
That's a good question....I'm not sure that it is...but if not then perhaps it should be...
Currently I'm not personally dealing with Wall upload/mods...so I don't know....
Skinhit
Reply #8 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:55 AM
Reply #8 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:55 AM
Po' i've been dealing with the same thing lately...i have had @ least 3 or 4 walls lately goto my personal page only and i just usually delete them. whats the point if no one is going to see them? I did however leave a few on just to see what kind of response they might get. I am happy to report that one has received a whopping 8 downloads and the other 2...but hey i'm that much closer to a million downloads 
Fairyy~
Reply #9 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:58 AM
I had a wall awhile back that i couldnt ' see ' either - the upload notification was the same as usual...said approved and gave a link.
It never stated it was to the personal site only.
I did mention this to zoombas in another thread. I had suggested that the WC personal site links be like DA and are added as a ' signature' when ever you post. He said maybe at a later date this could be done.
As for the wall that was delegated to WC personal site - I noticed it had about 8 d/loads in the first 2 days. Mostly people that have me on their watch lists. After the first 2 days...not one download for 2 weeks or so..I ended up deleting the wall.
Only because at that point if someone did click on my wc personal site it would show a wall that was up for a long period of time with 8 d/loads.
I had visions of my forehead with a giant L printed on it
Reply #9 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:58 AM
I deleted the 'upload notification', but was it mentioned in that , that the work was approved but only for my personal gallery? I would like to know if that is being done, so I can check the notifications on further submissions. |
I had a wall awhile back that i couldnt ' see ' either - the upload notification was the same as usual...said approved and gave a link.
It never stated it was to the personal site only.
| Personally, I rarely cruise the 'personal galleries'. Did I miss it, or was a poll taken to see how many people actually browse those galleries for work? |
I did mention this to zoombas in another thread. I had suggested that the WC personal site links be like DA and are added as a ' signature' when ever you post. He said maybe at a later date this could be done.
As for the wall that was delegated to WC personal site - I noticed it had about 8 d/loads in the first 2 days. Mostly people that have me on their watch lists. After the first 2 days...not one download for 2 weeks or so..I ended up deleting the wall.
Only because at that point if someone did click on my wc personal site it would show a wall that was up for a long period of time with 8 d/loads.
I had visions of my forehead with a giant L printed on it
PoSmedley
Reply #10 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:26 AM
Which is why I would rather have had it rejected. Rejection is one thing, relegating it to the personal page is like saying to everyone "Look what wasn't good enough".
It's gotten more comments than any other work on my DA site, all positive and surprisingly so, as I knew it was 'odd' and may not be to everyones taste. (Kinda like me) and it was the positive response that helped me decide to upload it here as well.
oh, well.
I don't want it to be an issue, or this thread to turn sour, I was just curious what had happened. Thanks for the response/info, Jafo.
Reply #10 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:26 AM
| I had visions of my forehead with a giant L printed on it |
Which is why I would rather have had it rejected. Rejection is one thing, relegating it to the personal page is like saying to everyone "Look what wasn't good enough".
It's gotten more comments than any other work on my DA site, all positive and surprisingly so, as I knew it was 'odd' and may not be to everyones taste. (Kinda like me) and it was the positive response that helped me decide to upload it here as well.
oh, well.
I don't want it to be an issue, or this thread to turn sour, I was just curious what had happened. Thanks for the response/info, Jafo.
Bandit4edu
Reply #11 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:31 AM
Reply #11 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:31 AM
suggesting a "To funky for Prime Time" wall category now Po?
PoSmedley
Reply #12 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:36 AM
You're just too funky. Period. lol
I don't know. I realize they are trying to be accommodating and resolve a lot of the issues peeps have with the wall gallery and how it's handled. All in all, I like the site and don't have any serious issues. As with everything that is worth the time, you have to learn to take the good with the bad, or vice versa. I can live with this. There's more good here than things I have issues with.
Reply #12 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:36 AM
| To funky for Prime Time |
You're just too funky. Period. lol
I don't know. I realize they are trying to be accommodating and resolve a lot of the issues peeps have with the wall gallery and how it's handled. All in all, I like the site and don't have any serious issues. As with everything that is worth the time, you have to learn to take the good with the bad, or vice versa. I can live with this. There's more good here than things I have issues with.
WOM
Reply #13 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:37 AM
Reply #13 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:37 AM
I don't visit the personel pages for walls or other things. I feel if it doesn't make the library, then its not for me. Most of what makes the library I wouldn't download anyway, but that where I look. If you remember, the walls were takes from the mods and stardock started approving them because they felt we rejected to many, so now less get rejected. Oh well, six of one and a 1/2 dozen of another.
Zoomba
Reply #14 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:46 AM
Reply #14 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:46 AM
It's a balance to strike between posting everything to make everyone happy, and being too critical and offending a lot of people.
We felt the best option, especially with something so subjective (and touchy) as wallpapers was to accept anything that does not violate our submission rules, and anything that would have been previously rejected is instead placed as "Personal Page Only" This is to try and avoid bruised egos and hurt feelings that we've often seen when someone has a work rejected.
We're trying to become more welcoming of new members, encourage more content being submitted, more artists frequenting the site etc.
We felt the best option, especially with something so subjective (and touchy) as wallpapers was to accept anything that does not violate our submission rules, and anything that would have been previously rejected is instead placed as "Personal Page Only" This is to try and avoid bruised egos and hurt feelings that we've often seen when someone has a work rejected.
We're trying to become more welcoming of new members, encourage more content being submitted, more artists frequenting the site etc.
Skinhit
Reply #15 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
Reply #15 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
has the rating of a wall that can be seen gone down to 3 instead of 4 stars?
Zoomba
Reply #16 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:17 AM
Reply #16 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:17 AM
I believe the non-sub threshold is still 4 stars
Skinhit
Reply #18 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:17 PM
Reply #18 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:17 PM
I dont think thats right tho' Zoomba...I logged out and browsed the wallpaper gallery and its showing anything with 3 stars and higher?
Pumakitten57
Reply #19 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:38 PM
Reply #19 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:38 PM
I know how you feel Po. I think I would have had my submitted walls rejeted outright than placed where no one can see them. I can only hope that someone sees my work and looks at my personal page to see what I have here.....
Like ~Fairy, to see that a wall only has 9 or 15 dl since being accepted makes me want to just delete them and not bother making more...
Sorry Zoomba.....I really don't want to offend you, but this is what happens when you try to make everyone happy....IMHO just doesn't work. Thats why there are rules.....I really hope that something can be done to fix this. I get a tad irked at the ratings... but the dl is what makes it worthwhile to me. Just knowing that someone likes what I post enough to dl it.
| I had visions of my forehead with a giant L printed on it |
| It's a balance to strike between posting everything to make everyone happy, and being too critical and offending a lot of people. |
| This is to try and avoid bruised egos and hurt feelings that we've often seen when someone has a work rejected. |
Sorry Zoomba.....I really don't want to offend you, but this is what happens when you try to make everyone happy....IMHO just doesn't work. Thats why there are rules.....I really hope that something can be done to fix this. I get a tad irked at the ratings... but the dl is what makes it worthwhile to me. Just knowing that someone likes what I post enough to dl it.
ZubaZ
Reply #20 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:53 PM
To each their own i guess. But teh few things I have made, I made for me and if someone gets something out of it . . great. If no one ever downloads a thing . . . still great.
Reply #20 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:53 PM
| but the dl is what makes it worthwhile to me. Just knowing that someone likes what I post enough to dl it. |
To each their own i guess. But teh few things I have made, I made for me and if someone gets something out of it . . great. If no one ever downloads a thing . . . still great.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:17 AM