Symantec Says MS Is Withholding Vista Tech
Mommy! Billy won't share his toys!
Wednesday, September 27, 2006 by Zoomba | Discussion: WinCustomize News
As it has recently come out that Symantec is one of the companies central in encouraging the European Commission in causing trouble for Microsoft and its Vista launch next year, it's no surprise that the security software and services company would start leveling accusations aimed directly at the software giant in Redmond. Symantec, a company best known to consumers for its anti-virus and anti-spyware tools, is now accusing Microsoft of withholding key APIs needed to build effective security tools that can operate with Windows Vista.
Microsoft fired back saying that as of Friday, September 22nd, coinciding closely with the release of Vista RC1, the APIs needed to disable Windows Defender and use some of the functionality to enhance third party security applications. Symantec claims that Microsoft, despite the Sept. 22nd announcement, have yet to make the APIs available.
This comes at a crucial time as software developers race to build Vista compatible applications. For many who sell in the retail space, or as bundled products with computers from companies like Dell or HP, the deadline to get disks and boxes to manufacturing and then through distribution is rapidly approaching. Symantec has a late-October deadline to get their software out for OEM distribution. Their fear is that Microsoft will finally release the APIs a few days before that date so they can say they technically provided it, but not give enough time for developers to actually make their software function with it.
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Reply #2 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 6:28 PM
Reply #3 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:16 PM
PCCillin is alredy available for Vista. It's a bit more resource intensive than SAV (Corporate) but a much better product.
Reply #4 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:00 PM
Reply #5 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:26 PM
Reply #6 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:50 PM
| God! And people wonder why I went to a Mac......... |
Nope....I didn't, not at all....
Reply #8 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:02 PM
According to the article, they requested permission to develop using the API and were granted permission on two days ago. It sounds like a case of impatience to me.
One question that I do not currently know the answer to is: "are the PC manufacturers allowed to sell machines running Vista prior to the January release of the OS to retailers? If not, then there is still plenty of time for a company like Symantec to get their ducks in a row and provide the necessary products to their manufacturing partners. It doesn't sound like any other competitors have received anything before Symantec has.
I have to say that the Avast free AV combined with the Vista firewall passed the "Shields Up" testing with flying colors, so this would seem to indicate (at least to me) that the "end all, be all" solution that Symantec seems to be working towards is not needed. Any of the other main stream security products are fine as well, including (one would think) the 'OneCare' product which is due to release a beta compatible with RC1 soon.
I would bet that there is at least 60 days until the real threat of being late to the table is a reality. Just a guess of course.
Reply #9 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:03 PM
Reply #10 Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:12 AM
Symantec SUCKS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD!!!!!!!
Get a rope.......
Speedy
Reply #11 Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:38 AM
I use Avast and it installed just fine some 3 weeks ago on Vista.
Eh, Symantec gets what they deserve. I hope they never get the keys.
PC
Reply #12 Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:17 AM
Reply #13 Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:40 AM
| Eh, Symantec gets what they deserve. I hope they never get the keys. |
I dunno, PC, anybody'd get the idea you don't like Symantec.
You're right, though, Symantec are the biggest cry babies in the computing world and deserve every bit of ridicule they receive, especially when their products are too recource intensive and just plain crap. I also use Avast in XP, but seeing as you've found it works well in Vista, I'll give it a try in my copy as well....it's a good AV proggie and, in Vista, would most definitely out-perfom Symantec's resource hogging junk with its much smaller footprint.
BTW, has anybody got a spare pair of boots? I've enjoyed kicking Symantec while they're down so much, mine are plain wore out.
Reply #14 Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:07 AM
Reply #15 Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:51 AM
| I guess they were to stupid to reverse engineer Vista and figure out the api....DUMBASSES!!!!!! |
Ummm... a drastic violation of EULA.
Think again "Speedy"
Reply #16 Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:53 AM
| Symantec is POISON - stay away from it! |
Not completely accurate.
The Corporate edition is actually pretty good. It doesn't foul your systems with the extra fluff.
Home editions... Norton AV etc.. therein lies your poisons.
Reply #17 Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:25 AM
Speedy
Reply #18 Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:06 AM
| The Corporate edition is actually pretty good. It doesn't foul your systems with the extra fluff. Home editions... Norton AV etc.. therein lies your poisons. |
So yet again the 'big guys' are OK....just the measily little peasants get the short stick...
Reply #19 Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:20 PM
In the long run it might be cheaper.
Reply #20 Thursday, September 28, 2006 4:21 PM
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Reply #1 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 6:08 PM