Safely Remove Hardware-When is it OK not to use?

Friday, July 14, 2006 by aimzzz | Discussion: Personal Computing

I'm curious about when it's important to use Safely Remove Hardware & when it's OK to skip it. I'm assuming it has to do with software losing data if an attached drive is yanked away. I used to think it was about sending power to attached hardware. As you can see, I really don't know what I'm talking about.
Today, as I watched my father pop his camera off his USB hub, I thought I should find out before mentioning it again... Will do some research, but I'm curious about what WC peeps have to say about it, too.
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yrag
Reply #1 Friday, July 14, 2006 6:54 PM
You run the risk (although small) of corrupting the data....in the case of the camera; if you downloaded the pics and cleared the memory, you can just pull it out....there's nothing to corrupt. A loaded drive would obviously be the opposite.

aimzzz
Reply #2 Friday, July 14, 2006 7:05 PM
Ah, so it's a software/data issue, not a fried hardware problem...

ZubaZ
Reply #3 Friday, July 14, 2006 7:07 PM
As long as no data is being transferred . . . you are safe.

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matthewedwardcornish
Reply #4 Friday, July 14, 2006 7:11 PM
On top of what yraq had to say, there is also a tiny risk of causing actual damage to the device being unplugged. This is because USB ports have current running through them. Without 'stopping' the device there is the potential for current to spike or jolt as you pull out the connector plug. Not fun if it's a USB mass storage device you're removing. I like to play it safe...

Kinda reminds me of having to enter 'p' at the prompt to park our hard disk drives on old computers.

aimzzz
Reply #5 Friday, July 14, 2006 7:45 PM
Ah, hardware & software issues.

Some of the comments remind me of all the hardware upgrades when the cats "help" & instructions said to be sure & wear anti-static wristbands, etc...



Jafo
Reply #6 Friday, July 14, 2006 10:19 PM

The only time I fried a USB stick was with someone else's comp's front ports which were wired incorrectly.

Hot-swapping them 'should' be incident free...


Adamness
Reply #7 Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:14 AM
I find it annoying when I have to remove my external hard drive, and go to 'safely remove' it, but it says it can't be stopped. I wish there was a way to look up what's using the drive so I can stop it, so I can remove the drive. Yah?

matthewedwardcornish
Reply #8 Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:42 AM
Aimzzz, yeah I wouldn't worry about it too much - if we worried about all the risks we face every day we'd end up crying under the table in the fetal position. But it's worth knowing what the risks are.


aimzzz
Reply #9 Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:30 PM
Agreed

Jafo
Reply #10 Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:59 PM

I find it annoying when I have to remove my external hard drive, and go to 'safely remove' it, but it says it can't be stopped. I wish there was a way to look up what's using the drive so I can stop it, so I can remove the drive. Yah?

I have a proggy here somewhere that'll fix that....I'll hunt it down [link it]...


Jafo
Reply #11 Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:01 PM

http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/

Give that a try....works with files, etc....should work with drives [I imagine]...


scorpio-logic
Reply #12 Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:13 PM
Thanks for the link, Jafo. I've been thinking about a search for such!  

aufisch
Reply #13 Sunday, July 16, 2006 12:41 AM
Thanks a lot for that link, Jafo. I've had the same problem as Adamness with my External HD.

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scorpNZ
Reply #14 Sunday, July 16, 2006 2:30 AM
You can select in the properties of that drive to be able to remove without using "safe removal" there are two settings optomise for quick removal or optomise for performance ,the latter is why you can't remove as write caching is enabled,to change right clik on the drive ,select properties,clik on harware tab,clik properties and the settings are self explanetary.
On occasions i will get the can't remove thingy for my ext hdd (which is selected for quick removal)but i just turn it off anyway and have had no data loss or probs with mother board frying,i'm running xp so i assume 2000 will be the same,don't know if earlier OS's can do the same.

Disclaimer: don't blame me if you loose data your on your own if you choose to do what i do

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