Where have all the decent skinners and skins gone?
Sunday, July 9, 2006 by Matches_Malone | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
First I would like to say this. I'm proud to be a paid subscriber to Stardock and virtually all of it's products even bought some as gifts too family members.
While scrolling the windowblinds section I've seen some ridiculous skins even some by those whose been skinning for awhile. Like i.e. 'Happy Fish c'mon. I think wincustomize is losing it's flair when it comes to high-defintion not too mention quality skins. And us loyal customers has to go elsewhere to find some good skins, like Flux by josephs, before that skin was uploaded here it was on of course on other sites first even though he stated that for his art award.
What happened Tiggz, Mike Brandt, and a host of others, the real skinners who dedicate their entire being, and lots of man hours, not to say those who make general skins don't but not like the professionals that puts true dedication to put forth a high-quality skin and not just downloading skinstudio and putting some bars together.
Please weed out those ridiculous skins, put wincustomize back on the map. I think it should be a skin-law the weeds out the good from the bad skins.
Bad-skin: defined as, too many bugs and have to keep uploading the skin
Good-skin: defined as, not as many bugs and upload twice for update
High-quality-skin: defined as, no bugs every part of the skin is skinned w/periodic updates to add more new tweaks if users ask.
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While scrolling the windowblinds section I've seen some ridiculous skins even some by those whose been skinning for awhile. Like i.e. 'Happy Fish c'mon. I think wincustomize is losing it's flair when it comes to high-defintion not too mention quality skins. And us loyal customers has to go elsewhere to find some good skins, like Flux by josephs, before that skin was uploaded here it was on of course on other sites first even though he stated that for his art award.
What happened Tiggz, Mike Brandt, and a host of others, the real skinners who dedicate their entire being, and lots of man hours, not to say those who make general skins don't but not like the professionals that puts true dedication to put forth a high-quality skin and not just downloading skinstudio and putting some bars together.
Please weed out those ridiculous skins, put wincustomize back on the map. I think it should be a skin-law the weeds out the good from the bad skins.
Bad-skin: defined as, too many bugs and have to keep uploading the skin
Good-skin: defined as, not as many bugs and upload twice for update
High-quality-skin: defined as, no bugs every part of the skin is skinned w/periodic updates to add more new tweaks if users ask.
-End of report
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Bichur
Reply #122 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 12:40 AM
Reply #122 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 12:40 AM
Y'all do realize #117 (where this post died) was July 2006?
Frogboy
Reply #123 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 12:42 AM
Reply #123 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 12:42 AM
I do also miss the likes of Tiggz and a few others but as in life people come and go and theres certainly plenty of talent still left on WC and new skinners start everyday.
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Tiggz hasn't left. I just checked his profile. He was on less than 10 minutes ago. So have many of the other people.
The huge skinning initiative known as MyColors has taken up a LOT of time of a lot of skinners.
Alexandrie, Treetog, MikeB, Voo, Hippy, Tiggz, (to name a few who were mentioned in this thread as being "gone") are not gone at all but are working on that project making skins and have been active here.
I haven't made a new skin in years. I don't consider myself gone either. Not literally anyway, gone in the head maybe. 
SoliD_NuTs
Reply #125 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:26 AM
Reply #125 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:26 AM
whats this MyColors initiative projecct frogboy??? any links on it??
SoliD_NuTs
Reply #127 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 8:26 AM
Reply #127 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 8:26 AM
whats the diffrence between mycolors and Suites?? seems like the same thing
ZubaZ
Reply #128 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 8:32 AM
Reply #128 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 8:32 AM
From Brad's State of Skinning:
In the past year, Stardock has brought in much of the
talent from Pixtudio and SkinPlant to form Stardock Design. In just a
few months, two huge projects were won from Microsoft and Dell.
. . .
And for Dell, the single largest
skinning initiative in history. By teaming up with colleges, sports
teams, and more, end users have started to be able to purchase themed
desktops of their favorite teams.
vStyler
Reply #130 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:11 AM
Yeah, I basically meant I hadnt seen a "community" skin from him in a while thats all. Good to know he's still around though...the others too.
Reply #130 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:11 AM
Tiggz hasn't left. I just checked his profile. He was on less than 10 minutes ago.
Yeah, I basically meant I hadnt seen a "community" skin from him in a while thats all. Good to know he's still around though...the others too.
SoliD_NuTs
Reply #131 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:42 AM
thanks zubaz! very interesting stardock has come a long way
its funny i actually thought of the that idea in 2003 of contacting universities and offering them themed desktops but i never did.
Reply #131 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:42 AM
From Brad's State of Skinning:
thanks zubaz! very interesting stardock has come a long way
its funny i actually thought of the that idea in 2003 of contacting universities and offering them themed desktops but i never did.
Kinjin
Reply #132 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 1:25 PM
Reply #132 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 1:25 PM
Sorry, I read the entire thread and wanted to reply to all of it.
A submission may not be to my personal preferences, but that doesn't mean it's not good, or that I don't appreciate it's value. Someone else may love it. To me, the difference between a good skin and bad is the polish of the final product. How does it work? How useable is it? How many bugs does it have? Do the actual images need work? Making a skin is extremely time consuming. Not only do you need to have artistic skills for the images, skin studio isn't exactly intuitive in all areas. I respect anyone who can actually complete a theme, no matter how rough it turns out.
What is needed is constructive criticism. Being mean just makes you an ass. Skinning, just like any other form of art is subjective. Instead of saying it's good, or sucks define why you do/don't like it. Example: Wow! That text just pops right out at you. The color blending the start menu is awesome. using transparency on your buttons will remove those jagged edges. The colors kinda clash. The background is too dark for the text,etc.
This will take the submitting artist off of the defensive. Instead of wasting time justifying to themselves (and everyone else) how it doesn't suck, they can concentrate on the areas they need to improve. It would result in less conflict, a friendlier atmosphere, and skinners progressing much faster, and ultimately more quality skins.
I think we all miss not getting new themes from the above mentioned greats. If what Brad says is correct, maybe we will see some great new themes from them in the future
A submission may not be to my personal preferences, but that doesn't mean it's not good, or that I don't appreciate it's value. Someone else may love it. To me, the difference between a good skin and bad is the polish of the final product. How does it work? How useable is it? How many bugs does it have? Do the actual images need work? Making a skin is extremely time consuming. Not only do you need to have artistic skills for the images, skin studio isn't exactly intuitive in all areas. I respect anyone who can actually complete a theme, no matter how rough it turns out.
What is needed is constructive criticism. Being mean just makes you an ass. Skinning, just like any other form of art is subjective. Instead of saying it's good, or sucks define why you do/don't like it. Example: Wow! That text just pops right out at you. The color blending the start menu is awesome. using transparency on your buttons will remove those jagged edges. The colors kinda clash. The background is too dark for the text,etc.
This will take the submitting artist off of the defensive. Instead of wasting time justifying to themselves (and everyone else) how it doesn't suck, they can concentrate on the areas they need to improve. It would result in less conflict, a friendlier atmosphere, and skinners progressing much faster, and ultimately more quality skins.
I think we all miss not getting new themes from the above mentioned greats. If what Brad says is correct, maybe we will see some great new themes from them in the future
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Reply #121 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 12:03 AM
his comments: http://forum.deviantart.com/galleries/skins/655163/
the result at deviantart: http://internetworld7.deviantart.com/
Oh man, I wanted to see what everyone told him hehe