Allways on top, not working right
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 by DLOBROWN | Discussion: ObjectDock
I have my ObjectDock set to allways be on top, but for some reason every now and then (maybe about 40% of the time) it doesnt stay on top. Anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks
-Dallas
Thanks
-Dallas
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xenonmiii
Reply #22 Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:28 PM
Reply #22 Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:28 PM
Yeah, i've been using object dock for around 2 years too.
But this always on top bug is a real pain.
Please fix it. argh
But this always on top bug is a real pain.
Please fix it. argh
IanAdd
Reply #23 Friday, November 17, 2006 11:06 AM
Reply #23 Friday, November 17, 2006 11:06 AM
I can cause this to happen reliably as follows on my rig: 1) Have two monitors operating as one, 2) Bring up remote desktop in full screen mode on one monitor. 3) Docks to show tabs when docked. I have a docklet on each monitor. 4) put an app on the unused monitor so that there is room to see the dock rise but the dock overlaps the app window. - ie you can clearly see if it is on top or not. 5) Now activate this dock in the non remote desktop window, it comes up on top. Now quickly move to the remote desktop and click it to get the focus. The dock goes behind the other app despite the 'on top' setting. It then hides. Next time you activate the dock it comes up behind the window. This is regardless of whether the remote desktop has the focus or the app that covers the dock. Any help? or is my problem different to you guys, cos it comes back on top if I click on the dock and then stays that way until I repeat the above.
SoopahMan
Reply #24 Thursday, February 8, 2007 4:06 AM
Reply #24 Thursday, February 8, 2007 4:06 AM
It looks like this issue may have been fixed in 1.5 - I'll keep using it and see if the bug occurs any longer.
SoopahMan
Reply #25 Thursday, February 8, 2007 9:13 PM
Reply #25 Thursday, February 8, 2007 9:13 PM
It looks like this issue has in fact been fixed! Time to buy the StarDock package.
InTernets
Reply #26 Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:57 PM
Reply #26 Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:57 PM
Nah still botched in 1.5, something odd I noticed, and I'm unsure if this happens to anyone else (I did not go through extended testing), whenever I opened a file on winamp this happens (as active programs only had firefox, and the folder with the songs, same applyed to opening a winamp skin from the desktop 
). Oddly enough when I opened the exact same file with windows media player, vlc player, bsplayer, media player classic, gspot (was just trying random things) it all worked fine. In a nutshell whenever I used winamp it sent my stuff to back, will post if I find further info like conditions where it works fine etc. Ah and it's only when the program itself is started, meaning changing songs is perfectly fine 
). Oddly enough when I opened the exact same file with windows media player, vlc player, bsplayer, media player classic, gspot (was just trying random things) it all worked fine. In a nutshell whenever I used winamp it sent my stuff to back, will post if I find further info like conditions where it works fine etc. Ah and it's only when the program itself is started, meaning changing songs is perfectly fine 
SoopahMan
Reply #27 Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:29 PM
Reply #27 Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:29 PM
You're right, I was able to get the bug to trigger, just much later. Sucks.
What's even dumber is that now that I've purchased the StarDock package for $50, I've learned that the one product you DON'T get with it is ObjectDock! How dumb is that? What a waste.
What's even dumber is that now that I've purchased the StarDock package for $50, I've learned that the one product you DON'T get with it is ObjectDock! How dumb is that? What a waste.
jamesavery22
Reply #28 Friday, February 16, 2007 11:30 AM
Reply #28 Friday, February 16, 2007 11:30 AM
How is this still an issue? Is ObjectDock being dropped or something? This has been a known issue, documented pretty well here, for how many years? Hell, make a shortcut key to do the "uncheck and recheck always on top." Better than nothing...
InTernets
Reply #29 Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:55 PM
Reply #29 Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:55 PM
@SoopahMan ouch that sucks 
Don't know jamesavery22, but it would be realy nice to see this solved.
So far still haven't managed to reproduce it other than with starting winamp process for which it seems (at least for me) to trigger the bug 100% of times.
Don't know jamesavery22, but it would be realy nice to see this solved.
So far still haven't managed to reproduce it other than with starting winamp process for which it seems (at least for me) to trigger the bug 100% of times.
ATLR1
Reply #30 Monday, February 19, 2007 2:12 PM
Hey guys. Use these steps and then clear the Stardock cache (or just try clearing cache only). Cache is in the documents and settings folder for your user. It worked for me.
Reply #30 Monday, February 19, 2007 2:12 PM
Here's something you might want to try in the mean time, see if you get any milage out of it. ObjectDock will set itself to not always on top if it detects a game is on top. It's fairly specific so i don't know how it might be getting fooled, or particularly, how it would ever get stuck. But try this:
1) Unload ObjectDock
2) Locate your ObjectDock settings folder. Going to the following folder will take you there:
C:\Documents and Settings\%USERNAME%\Local Settings\Application Data\Stardock\ObjectDockPlus\
(Local Settings may be hidden so you may not be able to browse to it, so just pop that into the run dialog)
3) Open "Settings.ini"
4) Under the top header ("[Settings]") you may notice an option there that reads:
DisableFullscreenGameDetection=0
change that to to read
DisableFullscreenGameDetection=1
5) Open ObjectDock back up
If it fixes the problem, it'd be a nice hint as to what's happening!
1) Unload ObjectDock
2) Locate your ObjectDock settings folder. Going to the following folder will take you there:
C:\Documents and Settings\%USERNAME%\Local Settings\Application Data\Stardock\ObjectDockPlus\
(Local Settings may be hidden so you may not be able to browse to it, so just pop that into the run dialog)
3) Open "Settings.ini"
4) Under the top header ("[Settings]") you may notice an option there that reads:
DisableFullscreenGameDetection=0
change that to to read
DisableFullscreenGameDetection=1
5) Open ObjectDock back up
If it fixes the problem, it'd be a nice hint as to what's happening!
Hey guys. Use these steps and then clear the Stardock cache (or just try clearing cache only). Cache is in the documents and settings folder for your user. It worked for me.
SoopahMan
Reply #31 Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:17 PM
Reply #31 Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:17 PM
I'll give that a shot although I can only assume now if I play a game in full screen I can expect to see my dock show up when I mouse down... .
simonmason
Reply #32 Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM
Reply #32 Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM
Was this every resolved. I am running 1.90 Plus Build 535u and it still gets lost behind other windows every so often. I tried all suggestions in the posts above. Thanks.
Philly0381
Reply #33 Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:12 PM
Reply #33 Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:12 PM
simonmason there have been other posts on the same subject. You might be better served in starting a new post. A lot of times posting on a old thread just gets lost.
I'll be looking for your post. I use ObjectDock Plus on a XP computer with no problems.
I'll be looking for your post. I use ObjectDock Plus on a XP computer with no problems.
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Reply #21 Monday, October 30, 2006 7:36 PM
As I said last time this is the one reason I haven't bought ObjectDock yet. I love it and use it every day, but this broken feature means I need to perform a lot of workarounds to work with it. If this bug is fixed you've got my purchase.
Here's more information about this bug: The issue goes away if you set it to "Normal Z-Ordering" with Mouse Activation. It's unfortunate Mouse Activation is disabled with Always on Top selected as this would help prevent most of the problem - even if the bug triggered, hitting the bottom (or other side) of the screen would return things to normal.
A further symptom occurs with Always on Top enabled: In addition to the dock vanishing behind other windows, if you have "Show running tasks on the dock" enabled in "Dock Contents," it will occasionally act as though this is not checked - that is, clicking a Shortcut will show a list of running programs, rather than starting that app. This is worst with a Windows Explorer shortcut because the list of running programs is often empty - it's finding 1 explorer.exe process running, which is Windows XP, not a Windows Explorer window, so clicking it appears to do nothing. Very frustrating.
I don't know if that symptom will help track down this bug, but at a minimum a huge benefit would be to enable the "Use Mouse Activation" feature with Always on Top so that when it does happen things can be reset easily to their proper state by hitting the side of the screen this bar is Docked to.