Windows update Messed up WB 5
Suggestions?
Saturday, December 17, 2005 by Vizzue | Discussion: WindowBlinds
Wow. This morning,I started up my computer, and it automatically installed a Windows Update. Meh. It restarted as well. When I logged back in, everything was screwy. Most skinned stuff was black, and my computer ran INCREDIBLY INSANELY SLOW. It took ten minutes to bring up the start menu. There was not much HD accessing while it was doing that either. After about half an hour of patience, I managed to unload WB (I'm using 5.0. It worked fine. Now, when I load up any skin, alpha blending or not, it goes crazy. I hate the regular XP look, so what can I do? Any others with this problem, or someone with a solution?
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SimonStrange777
Reply #23 Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:47 AM
Reply #23 Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:47 AM
Listen I am not attempting to start a flame war... I DON'T USE WB ANYMORE!!! I do Digital audio work... even WB can be felt when I am running a high load... I am just saying, That MANY companies have been reported as using very underhanded methods to try to curb piracy... I would not put it past Stardock and friends... But a crack failing in mass on the same day? and it's not a timed demo crack... that just does not add up... I come to these forums every now and then to see what people are saying... to find out if the time is right to get back into using the software... guess not.
Oh! and the stolen car analogy... here's a more apt one... that actually happened... A robber broke into the house of a family doing an unpermitted remodel to thier home... thier stairs had no railing and no warning... needless to say the robber fell and broke both legs... he sued the home owners and won... The moral... 2 wrongs don't make a right... don't gimme that you get what you deserve stuff... By the way Super Wizop Fuzzy Logic... do you have legal right to use the image of Spock in a public domain? HMMMM... Gene Rodenberry and Co. like to sue... would it be justice if they sued you? We all do what we can... NO ONE IS 100% ligit in this life... no one! So please don't throw stones like that either... If by chance a company decides to try to use malware to curb piracy they should just openly say so... give people the option to take thier chances... If anyone can find proof either way to they malware idea just post it up... I am asking for proof one direction or another... If the company is being 100% nice nothing to fear... I am just another corperate naysayer... If they are then gee.. it's just another corperation... being as bad as the populace they need to survive...
Oh! and the stolen car analogy... here's a more apt one... that actually happened... A robber broke into the house of a family doing an unpermitted remodel to thier home... thier stairs had no railing and no warning... needless to say the robber fell and broke both legs... he sued the home owners and won... The moral... 2 wrongs don't make a right... don't gimme that you get what you deserve stuff... By the way Super Wizop Fuzzy Logic... do you have legal right to use the image of Spock in a public domain? HMMMM... Gene Rodenberry and Co. like to sue... would it be justice if they sued you? We all do what we can... NO ONE IS 100% ligit in this life... no one! So please don't throw stones like that either... If by chance a company decides to try to use malware to curb piracy they should just openly say so... give people the option to take thier chances... If anyone can find proof either way to they malware idea just post it up... I am asking for proof one direction or another... If the company is being 100% nice nothing to fear... I am just another corperate naysayer... If they are then gee.. it's just another corperation... being as bad as the populace they need to survive...
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #24 Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:55 AM
It's so "fine" you can't see it. That means it's running pretty smooth for Rep. If he had said "fine as frog fur split four ways and sanded", well, it doesn't get much finer than that.
Reply #24 Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:55 AM
| Frogs have fur?.... |
It's so "fine" you can't see it. That means it's running pretty smooth for Rep. If he had said "fine as frog fur split four ways and sanded", well, it doesn't get much finer than that.
Jafo
Reply #25 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:06 AM
Reply #25 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:06 AM
Citizen SimonStrange777 ...did it ever occur to you that the crack had a time issue?
As far as I'm aware these cracked Windowblinds all fubarred at the 'same' timeas the Latest Windows Update was applied.
Neither the failings of the cracking application, the negative IQ of the hacker...the stupidity of the pirating user OR Microsoft's updating system OR Redmond's schedule is the responsibility of Stardock and/or any of its personnel.
Some pimply-faced wanker who thinks he's the biggest shit-on-his-block because he can reverse engineer a proggy and steal from others needs to just get a life...and discover sex takes two.
And no, they are not leet....cos if they were their stupid cracks would not break.
People who use cracked software...and then bitch and moan when it fucks-up need a swift kick up the arse.
...or a clip 'round the ear-hole', as my old man would say...
I personally would prefer that any cracked proggy caused permanent system melt-down...call it the school-of-hard-knocks.
Neil Banfield
Reply #26 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:06 AM
Reply #26 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:06 AM
SimonStrange777: If the crack has a bug which gets exposed on a certain day then that would explain why the crack fails on every machine.
Regarding your story of the robber, I suspect that robber was convicted of breaking & entering though. If the robber had himself removed the stair railing and then fell then perhaps it would be similar. But in that case it would be his own fault.
Majic7
Reply #27 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:19 AM
Reply #27 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:19 AM
Ever since WB5 went public there have been compaints about WB5 failures from people who never post here. The strange thing is there have been some that never did follow-ups when asked for information on what version they were using or what wasn't working right. Even when some that did give information that proved they were using warez they tried to deny it. The failures of pirate ware seem to have been going on since day one. Different cracks, different failures?
halfpast5
Reply #28 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:24 AM
Unfortunately, the family had to pay compensation for the robber and the robber was free from sentencing (least that's what I've read from UK's Tabloid which happened a couple years ago.
Reply #28 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:24 AM
| Regarding your story of the robber, I suspect that robber was convicted of breaking & entering though. If the robber had himself removed the stair railing and then fell then perhaps it would be similar. But in that case it would be his own fault. |
Unfortunately, the family had to pay compensation for the robber and the robber was free from sentencing (least that's what I've read from UK's Tabloid which happened a couple years ago.
SimonStrange777
Reply #29 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:34 AM
Reply #29 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:34 AM
Wow, irrationality is as present as ever among humanity... and even more so among the cathode ray burned generation click-click. Neil your info was good and well stated... but no, the robber was not convicted... they settled out of court... Money speaks louder than prison. I personaly think that spending $20 dollors on the beauty of a work tool is a bit much... but that is just me. So I DON'T USE THE STUFF... PERIOD!!! Don't come off half cocked at me... I just have noticed a trend in the digital world ( a trend I feel is VERY WRONG) and attemted to shed some light on an issue that could help people get to the bottom of things, an issue that has very real precidence. Admin Jafo to you I simply say this... PEACE... to wish even digital violence on another speaks volumes of your persona... just as my paranoia and suspicion do of mine, but at least I am not wishing pain and suffering on others of ANY KIND!!! That's just not nice! But then again no one ever said that geeks are high on the charts of social graces. Funny thing is though... in the words of William Shakespeare "Me thinkest thou protest to much!!!"... Other than copyright infringement with Spock what else do you hide?
SimonStrange777
Reply #30 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:37 AM
Reply #30 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:37 AM
Thank you halfpast5... you are right... I google it! And sorry Jafo... the Spock thing was another...
Majic7
Reply #31 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:44 AM
Reply #31 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:44 AM
Even if Stardock did program something to make warez unworkable I don't see a problem. As much as I would like to see pirates computors spit fire, the fact that all they have to do is uninstall the program is a good thing. If anything permanent happened it would fall under some booby trap law and then Stardock would be open to lawsuits, and everyone here is aware of Sony's possible problems with anti-pirate software. The crackers and warez users will have to come up with the proof. I wouldn't think Stardock has anything to prove.
The Headmaster
Reply #32 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:53 AM
Reply #32 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:53 AM
In my book, I think Microsoft doesn't want software's engineers to hack their operating system meaning doing reverse-engineering to make it appear something their (Microsoft) didn't intend it to be. This will be a huge loss from Microsoft if people can make their Windows XP version appear to be a Vista Operating System. Why would customers go for the new operating system yet to arrive when they can make the one they have appear as such? Microsoft may feel that Stardock stole their ideas to make money of it and now fighting back. As you can see the problem only affect windowblinds version 5. I'm using version 4 and I have no problem with it.
You can read from below part of an article related or kind of relate to this one at Link
"My neighbor invites me over admire his new widget. I bring my tape measure, my calipers, my camera, my scale, and my laptop for taking notes.
I reverse engineer the widget, and build one for myself in my shop, with my own material. I like my cool new widget, especially since I didn't have to pay for it.
Now I get even more clever. I build a machine that has the ability to copy widgets. Whatever widget you have, you pop it in, and a copy is made. I never sell the copies I make (that would be a violation of the patent), but I do borrow alot of my friends widgets to make myself a personal copy. "
This is what I think of the situation so far. This is only what I think.
You can read from below part of an article related or kind of relate to this one at Link
"My neighbor invites me over admire his new widget. I bring my tape measure, my calipers, my camera, my scale, and my laptop for taking notes.
I reverse engineer the widget, and build one for myself in my shop, with my own material. I like my cool new widget, especially since I didn't have to pay for it.
Now I get even more clever. I build a machine that has the ability to copy widgets. Whatever widget you have, you pop it in, and a copy is made. I never sell the copies I make (that would be a violation of the patent), but I do borrow alot of my friends widgets to make myself a personal copy. "
This is what I think of the situation so far. This is only what I think.
Neil Banfield
Reply #33 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:57 AM
Reply #33 Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:57 AM
Stardock would never consider damaging any data or hardware intentionally.
All they have to do is stop WB, which can be done in a number of ways. I would also run a virus scan myself too just to be safe as who knows where those files came from.
Factor Z Siegemaster
Reply #34 Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:05 AM
Reply #34 Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:05 AM
ok ok guys... this is my only and very simple history (my enghish are some poor ok i prefer the spanish u_ú)
case 1 "my case"
day - saturday 17
hour - panamá 2:30 pm
problem - windowblind 5 misteriously "crash and messed up and corrupt"
case 2 "the same day, the same error, in a friend computer"
the diference of his computer and the mine... he no have "internet conection"
ok my hipotesis is that...
1. after i download the illegal copy of WB5 i automatically burn it to a CD.. and in a CD of "only read" adware o trojan dont are oportunity to modify and corrupt the files.
2. i install this cracked vesin of WB 5 on my friend computer the same day as mine... and no problems
3. the day of yesterday the two computers are the same error...
i not sure if this error ocurrs at the same hour but is in te same day and the computer of my friend no have internet...
y work testing software and PCs hardware.. im a betatester etc... and when i install WB5 in a "new PC" whithout any update than SP2.. the WB 5 doesnt work...
after this... its obviously.. the files screen.exe, wbSrv.dll, and sig.bin, are a "date bug".. appearently the file wbSrv.dll have a problen... and befere of the day of yesterday.. this file is turned "inoperable and crashed"..
well in my opinion this is all the problem.... any here have a comentay? specially you Citizen SimonStrange777... ?
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this is a update of my post.. ok ok in this moment i rolled back my computer time and date to a time without problems Dec 15... reintalled the crack and reebot.. and.. the WB5 "work fine again... ok.. this is difinitively the problem.. the crack have a date bug... i need some credentials to find the solution ha ha ha ha ha wuaa ha ha ha ha ... err err sorry... ok if you have to try it be yourself its you decicion..
this isnt a metod to crack WB5. i only post the soluction and the answer to all the conmotion here...
case 1 "my case"
day - saturday 17
hour - panamá 2:30 pm
problem - windowblind 5 misteriously "crash and messed up and corrupt"
case 2 "the same day, the same error, in a friend computer"
the diference of his computer and the mine... he no have "internet conection"
ok my hipotesis is that...
1. after i download the illegal copy of WB5 i automatically burn it to a CD.. and in a CD of "only read" adware o trojan dont are oportunity to modify and corrupt the files.
2. i install this cracked vesin of WB 5 on my friend computer the same day as mine... and no problems
3. the day of yesterday the two computers are the same error...
i not sure if this error ocurrs at the same hour but is in te same day and the computer of my friend no have internet... y work testing software and PCs hardware.. im a betatester etc... and when i install WB5 in a "new PC" whithout any update than SP2.. the WB 5 doesnt work...
after this... its obviously.. the files screen.exe, wbSrv.dll, and sig.bin, are a "date bug".. appearently the file wbSrv.dll have a problen... and befere of the day of yesterday.. this file is turned "inoperable and crashed"..
well in my opinion this is all the problem.... any here have a comentay? specially you Citizen SimonStrange777... ?
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this is a update of my post.. ok ok in this moment i rolled back my computer time and date to a time without problems Dec 15... reintalled the crack and reebot.. and.. the WB5 "work fine again... ok.. this is difinitively the problem.. the crack have a date bug... i need some credentials to find the solution ha ha ha ha ha wuaa ha ha ha ha ... err err sorry... ok if you have to try it be yourself its you decicion..
this isnt a metod to crack WB5. i only post the soluction and the answer to all the conmotion here...
The Headmaster
Reply #35 Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:30 AM
Reply #35 Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:30 AM
So it may not be an attempt by Microsoft to make people wait for Vista 'cause the go back would not affect the update. It may be the crack then. But windowblinds 4 is great. I hope they were still making skins for it. I'm being force to get version 5. 
OlivierMDVY
Reply #36 Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:30 AM
Reply #36 Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:30 AM
Maybe your Windowblinds crack is a trojan ?
Factor Z Siegemaster
Reply #37 Sunday, December 18, 2005 1:18 PM
Reply #37 Sunday, December 18, 2005 1:18 PM
my crack isnt a trojan... i not make this patch... but.. definetively is a date bug in the crack.. microsoft and Stardock are out of this problem... is only a problem in the crack...
when i roll back my computer date the WB worck with this crack... but when i restore the time it crash again
when i roll back my computer date the WB worck with this crack... but when i restore the time it crash again
Me2NiK
Reply #38 Sunday, December 18, 2005 2:27 PM
Reply #38 Sunday, December 18, 2005 2:27 PM
If you're an idiot and attmept to crack a program so integrated into Windows, you're going to get bad results when Windows tries to update itself.
Jafo
Reply #39 Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:29 PM
Reply #39 Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:29 PM
| definetively is a date bug in the crack.. microsoft and Stardock are out of this problem... is only a problem in the crack... |
Citizen SimonStrange777 simple...be the injured burglar and sue the crack provider.
People are a wee bit too quick to apportion blame....even suggesting that Microsoft wants to cripple Windowblinds so that people will need to wait for Vista to achieve similar graphical tweaks.....
It's GOTTA be "the man"....it could NEVER be the [hacker] "kid".
The whole premise is so laughable someone MUST be having a lend.....
Factor Z Siegemaster
Reply #40 Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:01 PM
Reply #40 Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:01 PM
hmmmm the crak provider is an stupid.. for make bad cracks... i only say.. "good lookie next time" 
bye bye illegits WB5.. 
U
but this dont end here... some of these next days a new crack appear and other and other... the piracy is and interminable war...
bye bye illegits WB5.. 
Ubut this dont end here... some of these next days a new crack appear and other and other... the piracy is and interminable war...
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Reply #21 Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:42 AM