Hyper Paint
Tuesday, October 4, 2005 by lordstanleyiscominghome | Discussion: WindowBlinds
Is there a list of video cards that support this feature?
I can't see my Radeon 128meg 9250 not supporting hyper paint but its completely disabled and greyed out but my friends old SIS 32 meg card supports it and his video card is junk.
Anyone know if there's a registry setting to force it on?
I can't see my Radeon 128meg 9250 not supporting hyper paint but its completely disabled and greyed out but my friends old SIS 32 meg card supports it and his video card is junk.
Anyone know if there's a registry setting to force it on?
lordstanleyiscominghome
Reply #2 Wednesday, October 5, 2005 3:56 AM
Reply #2 Wednesday, October 5, 2005 3:56 AM
I am running the latest drivers.
No hacked drivers or anything like that.. I've tried uninstalling it and everything.
I've seen the difference on my friends machine and although I was a registered user back in the OS/2 days..
the lack of info/help is holding me back right now.. (V5 looks great though)
Frog, any other suggestions? .. where is the setting saved? (maybe force it in the registry?)
Is the radeon 9250 128 meg AGP lacking the support to enable it?..
Its late.. so.. bare with me.. I'm half asleep
.. good nite!
I can't see it.. as I said, my buds sis 32 meg can barely run a decent screen saver.. lol
You mention the default ATI drivers are conservative.. I can't see PowerColor providing anything better (or any other manu). Catalyst are pretty consistent.. you think a older powercolor driver might solve it?
No hacked drivers or anything like that.. I've tried uninstalling it and everything.
I've seen the difference on my friends machine and although I was a registered user back in the OS/2 days..
the lack of info/help is holding me back right now.. (V5 looks great though)
Frog, any other suggestions? .. where is the setting saved? (maybe force it in the registry?)
Is the radeon 9250 128 meg AGP lacking the support to enable it?..
Its late.. so.. bare with me.. I'm half asleep
.. good nite!I can't see it.. as I said, my buds sis 32 meg can barely run a decent screen saver.. lol
You mention the default ATI drivers are conservative.. I can't see PowerColor providing anything better (or any other manu). Catalyst are pretty consistent.. you think a older powercolor driver might solve it?
Neil Banfield
Reply #3 Wednesday, October 5, 2005 4:16 AM
Reply #3 Wednesday, October 5, 2005 4:16 AM
Install WindowFX. Run it. Does it offer to enable HW acceleration, and if so enable it and reboot.
lordstanleyiscominghome
Reply #4 Wednesday, October 5, 2005 10:01 PM
Reply #4 Wednesday, October 5, 2005 10:01 PM
Downloaded the shareware version of windowsfx and it says the driver doesn't support it.
Mentions that the driver report it doesns't support the APIs that is required by windowsfx.
Mentions that the driver report it doesns't support the APIs that is required by windowsfx.
lordstanleyiscominghome
Reply #5 Thursday, October 6, 2005 11:13 AM
Reply #5 Thursday, October 6, 2005 11:13 AM
Well, just to add more to this.. I uninstalled ATI's 5.9 drivers and gave Omega's tweaked drivers a shot and after installing, it rebooted and WindowsFX popped up suggesting myself to enable the hardware acceleration and I did and then the Omega installer said another reboot was required for the installtion of the drivers.
I checked the properties in windosFX and sure enough, it said the drivers supported it and it was enabled.
Rebooted.. WindowsFX is now back to the way it was and says the drivers don't support it.
I've uninstalled the omega drivers and tried ATI's own 5.9 and exactly the same thing happened as above.. if after I install the drivers and don't reboot for it to finish the driver installtion then windowsFX allows me to enable it but once I do the 2nd reboot I no longer have that option.
I checked the properties in windosFX and sure enough, it said the drivers supported it and it was enabled.
Rebooted.. WindowsFX is now back to the way it was and says the drivers don't support it.
I've uninstalled the omega drivers and tried ATI's own 5.9 and exactly the same thing happened as above.. if after I install the drivers and don't reboot for it to finish the driver installtion then windowsFX allows me to enable it but once I do the 2nd reboot I no longer have that option.
Jonep
Reply #6 Sunday, October 9, 2005 12:18 PM
Reply #6 Sunday, October 9, 2005 12:18 PM
Eazy mate same sort of prob with my Radeon 9200 try changin screen resolution mine was on 1280x800 no per pixel support now running 1280x768 hyperpaint working and now my borders are transparent! can,t take the credit for this myself Many Thanx to Miss iseekserendipity. hope it works for you.
KoL_
Reply #7 Sunday, October 9, 2005 10:22 PM
Reply #7 Sunday, October 9, 2005 10:22 PM
lordstanleyiscominghome: I have the same problem that you have with my ATI Radeon 9250 128MB but mine is PCI. I cant get the HyperPaint to work or the transparency in the border with WB 5. I want to know if you found a solution to this. I have tried CATALYST 5.9 and Omega and it didnt work.
My Laptopn have a Radeon IGP 345M 64 MB and I can enable HyperPaint but not the transparency and with this Radeon 9250 I cant, weird.
My Laptopn have a Radeon IGP 345M 64 MB and I can enable HyperPaint but not the transparency and with this Radeon 9250 I cant, weird.
lordstanleyiscominghome
Reply #8 Monday, October 10, 2005 4:47 AM
Reply #8 Monday, October 10, 2005 4:47 AM
Jonep is right.. lowering the resolution allows you to turn it on but if its set to 1280x1024 its not available.
I definately ain't changing my resolution just to run WB. There's gotta be some other solution.
This has to be a bug with either WB/WinFX or ATI's drivers for their lower end cards (it does work on a 9600 at any resolution).
Anyone at Stardock got some suggestions?
I definately ain't changing my resolution just to run WB. There's gotta be some other solution.
This has to be a bug with either WB/WinFX or ATI's drivers for their lower end cards (it does work on a 9600 at any resolution).
Anyone at Stardock got some suggestions?
KoL_
Reply #9 Monday, October 10, 2005 8:53 AM
Reply #9 Monday, October 10, 2005 8:53 AM
I tried what Jonep said and it works too. I can get it working with lower resolutions but when I change back to 1280x1024 it doesnt work. Really weird.
Jonep
Reply #10 Monday, October 10, 2005 1:03 PM
Reply #10 Monday, October 10, 2005 1:03 PM
Eazy peeps now ive uninstalled all my ATI drivers with the ATI uninstaller rebooted then just loaded the drivers from the original cd that came with the card (Radeon 9200), hyperpaint works and per pixel borders supported screen res back too 1280x800 but when i tried to install ATI control panel it all went weird again with no per pixel and corupt skinning?
KoL_
Reply #11 Monday, October 10, 2005 1:37 PM
Reply #11 Monday, October 10, 2005 1:37 PM
Jonep that works. I installed the original cd driver and I get hyperpaint and per pixel borders. Im going to try the latest drivers on the ati site without Control Panel or Control Center
EDIT: Nop I cant get hyperpaint and per pixel borders with the latest drivers. That's weird, Im going back to the old ones.
EDIT: Nop I cant get hyperpaint and per pixel borders with the latest drivers. That's weird, Im going back to the old ones.
Jonep
Reply #12 Monday, October 10, 2005 2:22 PM
Reply #12 Monday, October 10, 2005 2:22 PM
Glad it works for you KOL 
and it gives you more room in your system tray (no ati or wbconfig) 
and it gives you more room in your system tray (no ati or wbconfig) 
lordstanleyiscominghome
Reply #14 Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:20 PM
Reply #14 Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:20 PM
That isn't an option for me as one of my games won't work with older drivers.
I've left ATI support an email about this issue as it seems its a problem with their drivers and not WB but I doubt i'll get any response from them at all.
I've left ATI support an email about this issue as it seems its a problem with their drivers and not WB but I doubt i'll get any response from them at all.
Septimus
Reply #15 Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:18 PM
Reply #15 Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:18 PM
Maybe they [ATI] would listen to Brad if he sent them a comment through business dev channels. You never know, even though ATI customer support sucks, their business support might be better.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, October 4, 2005 4:46 PM