Cheeky or Cheesey
Tuesday, September 27, 2005 by Fairyy~ | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Not really an earth shaking matter ..but..
I just took a look at screen shot section. I know thats the least important section to most of you.Im wondering if the rules have changed or if there is a glitch in the ratings.
I Make it no secret that I dislike " cheesecake " screen shots of women in half nude poses. But it has been allowed since i've been here. Nudity doesnt bother me at all. Artistic nudes are quite pretty. Im talking about walls with women spread eagled in cutsie poses. I think there is a time and a place for everything. But..99% of the time, I just skip over those I find put women in a sexual way ...its no different if i were to make screen shots using naked men lying on a bear skin rugs. Not that I could even find such a wall. I tried..believe me......
I know that men and women are from different planets...I know that most dont care for my type of shots with fairies and dragons and flowers. And thats just fine.....
My question is.....could a moderator please check the SS section when they get a chance to see if there is a glitch or if someone is doing drive by ratings. I cant believe that there is that many shots with 1 or 2 star ratings. Seems out of place. If rules have changed and this type of shot is not acceptable..perhaps a notation from a moderator would be warranted. Some need a load of bricks dropped on them before they would actually take they low rating as a hint. I cant in all honesty rate a screen shot with cheeky women....
Thanks ..if and when someone gets a chance to look.
I just took a look at screen shot section. I know thats the least important section to most of you.Im wondering if the rules have changed or if there is a glitch in the ratings.
I Make it no secret that I dislike " cheesecake " screen shots of women in half nude poses. But it has been allowed since i've been here. Nudity doesnt bother me at all. Artistic nudes are quite pretty. Im talking about walls with women spread eagled in cutsie poses. I think there is a time and a place for everything. But..99% of the time, I just skip over those I find put women in a sexual way ...its no different if i were to make screen shots using naked men lying on a bear skin rugs. Not that I could even find such a wall. I tried..believe me......
I know that men and women are from different planets...I know that most dont care for my type of shots with fairies and dragons and flowers. And thats just fine.....
My question is.....could a moderator please check the SS section when they get a chance to see if there is a glitch or if someone is doing drive by ratings. I cant believe that there is that many shots with 1 or 2 star ratings. Seems out of place. If rules have changed and this type of shot is not acceptable..perhaps a notation from a moderator would be warranted. Some need a load of bricks dropped on them before they would actually take they low rating as a hint. I cant in all honesty rate a screen shot with cheeky women....
Thanks ..if and when someone gets a chance to look.
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Threi
Reply #22 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:03 PM
my point exactly...u think im just some perverted kid...as for pissin me off...u sure as hell did...but i have a class to catch so by the time i come back i will have calmed down and i will tell u off proper
Reply #22 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:03 PM
| *snort* I may really piss someone off..(what else is new)..but... Half naked/clothed women are a dime a dozen on the internet. Please. Show me a 'sketch' you did by hand, a vector, a naked stick woman even. I just don't get 'ripping' a half naked women and putting in your own background or repositioning her as the case may be. You want to reposition a woman, get some ones and head to the peep show. I hear the more ones you put in the slot, the more positons you get. As 'odd' as it sounds...the original photographer is the 'artist'. Is the art then being 'improved' by this new display? aw...n/m...I think I lost my point. |
my point exactly...u think im just some perverted kid...as for pissin me off...u sure as hell did...but i have a class to catch so by the time i come back i will have calmed down and i will tell u off proper
Bichur
Reply #23 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:04 PM
Ironic? not so much as it shows you're able to forego your personal tastes in order to critique.
Reply #23 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:04 PM
| funny thing is i HATE all of those things but if i see a screenshot put well together with those things i WILL give it a good rating (i find that ironic in my view...) |
Ironic? not so much as it shows you're able to forego your personal tastes in order to critique.
Fairyy~
Reply #24 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:07 PM
Do you think its resonable to submit shot after shot after shot ?
I think it should be limited to one a day. And thats being generous. Maybe you dont fit in that catagory..but, others do. And they keep on doing it regardless of the fact that their shots are rated so poorly. It could be a moderator that is rating them..I dont know...
Night train is right .."some" are just tossing up a wall they found and barely change their wb....
And if they thought it was just cause it looked good..then it wouldnt be like pulling teeth getting them to tell you where they got the wall from. GOD forbid someone make a SS with same wall
Reply #24 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:07 PM
that however im not so sure about...some people just make screenshots cause they feel it looks good and they want to share it with ppl (thats the whole reason i started submitting screenshots on this site in the first place) so dont say "their" as in all...say "some |
Do you think its resonable to submit shot after shot after shot ?
I think it should be limited to one a day. And thats being generous. Maybe you dont fit in that catagory..but, others do. And they keep on doing it regardless of the fact that their shots are rated so poorly. It could be a moderator that is rating them..I dont know...
Night train is right .."some" are just tossing up a wall they found and barely change their wb....
And if they thought it was just cause it looked good..then it wouldnt be like pulling teeth getting them to tell you where they got the wall from. GOD forbid someone make a SS with same wall
Fairyy~
Reply #25 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:12 PM
Reply #25 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:12 PM
Wonder why its always the one person your NOT referring to that responds and thinks it is them.....
sigh.
sigh.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #27 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:18 PM
Reply #27 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:18 PM
The struggle between an artist and their emotions is so cliche, but it does show itself in many forms.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #28 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:19 PM
Reply #28 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:19 PM
I've posted a message about this rating issue on the admin messageboard. It looks to me as though the moderator's rating is being ignored by the system and one single rating is counting in preference. Must be a bug... sigh. No way should a single low rating even budge a good rating from a moderator. It will be sorted one way or the other.
As always, if someone 'hates' something they are entitled to give it one star, even if others think it's a five. Get in there and rate if you don't like it!
Sleeping Dragon
Reply #29 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:20 PM
Reply #29 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:20 PM
Screenshots were my passion for a time (I was third all time until I asked Jafo to remove most of them). I understand that a lot of work can go into them. I also understand that they are used for numerous agendas. some of which is spamming, some of which is artistic, and some of which is utilitarian - showing a work in progress or upcoming. They all comprise this huge gallery. My opinion is that partially clad robots, anime, models are acceptable walls but should not be porn and more importantly should not be the focus of the shot unless that wall is your work in progress.
What I completely agree with, is that there should be a limit as to quantity. This boils down to respect for the others doing it. If I were to upload 5 shots in a day, that means that other people's shots get moved down the list. How can you possibly be happy using any given application when you change it more often than your underwear?
Walls? A matter of personal taste (within limits)
Spamming? Just inconsiderate.
What I completely agree with, is that there should be a limit as to quantity. This boils down to respect for the others doing it. If I were to upload 5 shots in a day, that means that other people's shots get moved down the list. How can you possibly be happy using any given application when you change it more often than your underwear?
Walls? A matter of personal taste (within limits)
Spamming? Just inconsiderate.
Bichur
Reply #30 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:24 PM
The system sticking to the man?
Reply #30 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:24 PM
| It looks to me as though the moderator's rating is being ignored by the system |
The system sticking to the man?
Fairyy~
Reply #31 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:30 PM
This is exactly what I was thinking..it appeared to be unusual.. I felt it was a glitch....
Reply #31 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:30 PM
| [Fuzzy Logic] I've posted a message about this rating issue on the admin messageboard. It looks to me as though the moderator's rating is being ignored by the system and one single rating is counting in preference. Must be a bug... sigh. No way should a single low rating even budge a good rating from a moderator. It will be sorted one way or the other. As always, if someone 'hates' something they are entitled to give it one star, even if others think it's a five. Get in there and rate if you don't like it! |
This is exactly what I was thinking..it appeared to be unusual.. I felt it was a glitch....
Fairyy~
Reply #32 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:35 PM
I agree...but I also wouldnt deliberately down rate things just because of my opinion...but until rules are established..it will continue
Anyone that knows how I rate things would know i rarely give 1 star. and I dont have to like a " person" to give 5 stars either.
Reply #32 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:35 PM
| What I completely agree with, is that there should be a limit as to quantity. This boils down to respect for the others doing it. If I were to upload 5 shots in a day, that means that other people's shots get moved down the list. How can you possibly be happy using any given application when you change it more often than your underwear? Walls? A matter of personal taste (within limits) Spamming? Just inconsiderate. |
I agree...but I also wouldnt deliberately down rate things just because of my opinion...but until rules are established..it will continue
Anyone that knows how I rate things would know i rarely give 1 star. and I dont have to like a " person" to give 5 stars either.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #33 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:42 PM
Reply #33 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:42 PM
That last sentence of mine doesn't quite read the way I meant it to...
Anyway, I've been in the section and given fair ratings to screenshots I've not moderated. By fair I mean if I think it's worth three stars and it has one star, I've rated three stars. Trying to 'adjust' ratings is as unfair as someone making a low rating. My ratings have made a small difference...
NightTrainthedark
Reply #34 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:49 PM
Reply #34 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:49 PM
Good point Fuzzy. I could have easily given something an honest 1 star rating that someone else might feel deserves more. Am I not allowed my opinion?
Fairry, I agree with you whole. My comment isn't directed at you, just making a measily point is all.
Fairry, I agree with you whole. My comment isn't directed at you, just making a measily point is all.
Fairyy~
Reply #35 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:11 PM
Now you see my dilemma... i could have given then all a higher rating. But, thats being a hypocrite. Ive made it clear many times that I dont care for walls that make women look like puppets...usually I just dont rate them.. My taste is not a fair rating.
Reply #35 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:11 PM
| Anyway, I've been in the section and given fair ratings to screenshots I've not moderated. By fair I mean if I think it's worth three stars and it has one star, I've rated three stars. Trying to 'adjust' ratings is as unfair as someone making a low rating. My ratings have made a small difference... |
Now you see my dilemma... i could have given then all a higher rating. But, thats being a hypocrite. Ive made it clear many times that I dont care for walls that make women look like puppets...usually I just dont rate them.. My taste is not a fair rating.
Fairyy~
Reply #36 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:16 PM
I knew you were speaking in general terms...and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
I just tend try and find something good about everyones work.
Glad that fuzzy at least put things back in perspective.
Reply #36 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:16 PM
| Am I not allowed my opinion? Fairyy, I agree with you whole. My comment isn't directed at you, just making a measily point is all |
I knew you were speaking in general terms...and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
I just tend try and find something good about everyones work.
Glad that fuzzy at least put things back in perspective.
Threi
Reply #37 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:47 PM
*echoes*
like i told u in the comments fairyy~ i completely understand if you dont like scantily clad women (i don't like them either [i think they are very demeaning]...it has to look VERY nice IMO [thus the screens i submitted])
il tell u the whole long story so you can understand...
my friend got a new laptop and it had a widescreen effect (that caught my eye cause i like widescreen effects better than normal effects) my mp3 player doubles as a flash drive, so i asked him to give me some music. I asked him to give my his pictures folder too cause i saw some funny pics in there.(il post in next screenshot IF i change my mind but comments like #18 is making it REALLY hard) He is the type that likes wallpapers with scantily clad women in there, but i looked at the full screen of the wallpaper in my second screenshot and i thought that looked really well with the windowblinds i just downloaded (hence the screenshot) i was fully aware that some people wouldnt like the skin, and when i got the low rating i was shocked at first but i didnt really care so i went to the forums. Thats when i found this forum...i was fine reading it until i saw this quote:
i will admit, that pretty much pissed me off...ALOT...then i had the unpleasure of reading comment #18
what im trying to say is that i HOPE that the people here arent deciding what type of person i am (that im some sort of pervert) judged on my screenshot.
to be honest fairyy~ looking at your screenshots i thought at first you were a 7-year old girl (a talented one nontheless)
let me make this clear...there are things i like and things i dont like. but there are times i must like the stuff cause its so briallantly put together (fairyy~'s screenshots or rock music for example - i cant stand rock music but there are some i cant help but like) what would really be strange would be for someone to dismiss a screenshot because they dont like the content, even though they knew that they really liked it...
Reply #37 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:47 PM
| Am I not allowed my opinion? |
*echoes*
like i told u in the comments fairyy~ i completely understand if you dont like scantily clad women (i don't like them either [i think they are very demeaning]...it has to look VERY nice IMO [thus the screens i submitted])
il tell u the whole long story so you can understand...
my friend got a new laptop and it had a widescreen effect (that caught my eye cause i like widescreen effects better than normal effects) my mp3 player doubles as a flash drive, so i asked him to give me some music. I asked him to give my his pictures folder too cause i saw some funny pics in there.(il post in next screenshot IF i change my mind but comments like #18 is making it REALLY hard) He is the type that likes wallpapers with scantily clad women in there, but i looked at the full screen of the wallpaper in my second screenshot and i thought that looked really well with the windowblinds i just downloaded (hence the screenshot) i was fully aware that some people wouldnt like the skin, and when i got the low rating i was shocked at first but i didnt really care so i went to the forums. Thats when i found this forum...i was fine reading it until i saw this quote:
| They find a nice wallpaper on the net and they want to show it off so they post a half effort screenshot. |
i will admit, that pretty much pissed me off...ALOT...then i had the unpleasure of reading comment #18
what im trying to say is that i HOPE that the people here arent deciding what type of person i am (that im some sort of pervert) judged on my screenshot.
to be honest fairyy~ looking at your screenshots i thought at first you were a 7-year old girl (a talented one nontheless
)| Ironic? not so much as it shows you're able to forego your personal tastes in order to critique. |
let me make this clear...there are things i like and things i dont like. but there are times i must like the stuff cause its so briallantly put together (fairyy~'s screenshots or rock music for example - i cant stand rock music but there are some i cant help but like) what would really be strange would be for someone to dismiss a screenshot because they dont like the content, even though they knew that they really liked it...
NightTrainthedark
Reply #38 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:11 PM
Reply #38 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:11 PM
I never said whether I liked your screenshots or not Threi. I am a man, WTF do you think?
Threi, you also said
This was an asumptioned based on her girlie style screenshots I would suspect. Well, your 18 and posting screenshots with almost adult content. What do you think everyone thinks of you? I am not responsible for your actions. Not yesterday, not today, not......why bother.
Threi, you also said
| to be honest fairyy~ looking at your screenshots i thought at first you were a 7-year old girl |
This was an asumptioned based on her girlie style screenshots I would suspect. Well, your 18 and posting screenshots with almost adult content. What do you think everyone thinks of you? I am not responsible for your actions. Not yesterday, not today, not......why bother.
Threi
Reply #39 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:18 PM
i may be out of line when i ask if you actually SAW the screenshot. And as for me thinking fairyy~ was a 7 year old girl, THAT was just a thought and i wouldnt post "Not bad for a 7 year old girl" if i didnt know if she was a 7 year old girl or not. I encourage all of you to look through my screenshot gallery and try to find screenshots with "ADULT" content. (beleive it or not i looked at fairyy~'s 90-odd screenshots [with the few reinlendars in there too] to try and find some ideas on how to improve my own)
bottom line is you can think whatever the hell u wanna think, but dont actually SAY it before u get the facts straight
Reply #39 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:18 PM
| This was an asumptioned based on her girlie style screenshots I would suspect. Well, your 18 and posting screenshots with almost adult content. What do you think everyone thinks of you? I am not responsible for your actions. Not yesterday, not today, not......why bother. |
i may be out of line when i ask if you actually SAW the screenshot. And as for me thinking fairyy~ was a 7 year old girl, THAT was just a thought and i wouldnt post "Not bad for a 7 year old girl" if i didnt know if she was a 7 year old girl or not. I encourage all of you to look through my screenshot gallery and try to find screenshots with "ADULT" content. (beleive it or not i looked at fairyy~'s 90-odd screenshots [with the few reinlendars in there too] to try and find some ideas on how to improve my own)
bottom line is you can think whatever the hell u wanna think, but dont actually SAY it before u get the facts straight
Threi
Reply #40 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:21 PM
Reply #40 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:21 PM
god im so sick of arguing (i couldnt concentrate for the whole day)
i will continue posting screenshots, but not for a while....
i will continue posting screenshots, but not for a while....
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Reply #21 Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:02 PM
I never assumed squat but apparently you did. (see below)
My comments were general. Are you that high on yourself that you think you are the only person that posts screenshots?