Pentium 4 or AMD 64?
Which one to get?
Friday, September 2, 2005 by SlimSpaceman | Discussion: PC Hardware
Hi all,
I am gonna upgrade my computer... And of course I need to get a new processor, a Video Card, and a MoBo.
I was thinking about getting: A MoBo (compatible with the other new components), a PCIe GeForce 6600 256mb, and an AMD 64 3000+ (socket 754 or 939).
But then i was wandering which processor is better (P4 or AMD 64), or which one is better for what...
So, I'd be very greatful if i got some suggestions on which processor I should go for.
Thanx in advance!
I am gonna upgrade my computer... And of course I need to get a new processor, a Video Card, and a MoBo.
I was thinking about getting: A MoBo (compatible with the other new components), a PCIe GeForce 6600 256mb, and an AMD 64 3000+ (socket 754 or 939).
But then i was wandering which processor is better (P4 or AMD 64), or which one is better for what...
So, I'd be very greatful if i got some suggestions on which processor I should go for.
Thanx in advance!
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tjesterb
Reply #22 Sunday, September 4, 2005 1:19 PM
Reply #22 Sunday, September 4, 2005 1:19 PM
The article is a little dated, but good for consideration nonetheless.
http://www.blackviper.com/TheRant/amd_vs_intel_2.htm
In other news: BlackViper is back up.
http://www.blackviper.com/TheRant/amd_vs_intel_2.htm
In other news: BlackViper is back up.
SlimSpaceman
Reply #23 Sunday, September 4, 2005 6:47 PM
Reply #23 Sunday, September 4, 2005 6:47 PM
Are there different power supplies? Because I found a coool case that I wanna buy, and it says "this case comes with a 400W P4 PSU), But I am gonna buy an AMD 64 MoBo... So, are there different power supplies for different MoBos?
Corky_O
Reply #24 Sunday, September 4, 2005 7:40 PM
Reply #24 Sunday, September 4, 2005 7:40 PM
Newer PCIe boards usually have a 24 pin main molex connector, instead of a 20 pin & a 4 pin 12v (which was added to support the P4 power demand).
You indicated a PCIe video card, so you will probably want to check into finding either an image or diagram of the new MoBo to see the power connector configuration.
A P4 PSU would indicate a probable 20 pin and 4 pin 12v connector configuration.
I use Antec PSU's and have a 380 True Power currently in use with my ASUS board (AGP video board), and I have a 480 True Blue 2 PSU - which is designed to work with the new PCIe boards and has a 24 pin main connector as well as 4 SATA dedicated connectors and a dedicated PCIe video connector.
I would recommend doing some digging into the board, and purchasing a PSU that will match well.
I can certainly recommend the Antec True Power, and True Power 2 series - and there are a number of other reputable PSU manufacturers out there.
Hopefully some others will chime in with ideas.
You indicated a PCIe video card, so you will probably want to check into finding either an image or diagram of the new MoBo to see the power connector configuration.
A P4 PSU would indicate a probable 20 pin and 4 pin 12v connector configuration.
I use Antec PSU's and have a 380 True Power currently in use with my ASUS board (AGP video board), and I have a 480 True Blue 2 PSU - which is designed to work with the new PCIe boards and has a 24 pin main connector as well as 4 SATA dedicated connectors and a dedicated PCIe video connector.
I would recommend doing some digging into the board, and purchasing a PSU that will match well.
I can certainly recommend the Antec True Power, and True Power 2 series - and there are a number of other reputable PSU manufacturers out there.
Hopefully some others will chime in with ideas.
Mithun Pal
Reply #26 Monday, September 5, 2005 1:27 PM
Reply #26 Monday, September 5, 2005 1:27 PM
AMD 64 is much better option if compared with Intel P4.
Cool & Quite technology keeps the processor enough cool. But, today's P4 is suffering from cooling problem. P4 doesn't posses the ability of varying its speed according to speed. Only it knows to turn off the PC when over heated.
AMD 64 is an extended 64-bit processor that is much cheaper than Intel 64-bit processor.
AMD 64 comes with special SP2 support and Intel doesn't.
3DNow! and Extended 3DNow! are available in AMD processor.
Now it's your choice.
400 watt SMPS, if true power, is enough.
For AMD64 ASUS mainboard based on nForce 4 ultra chipset is recommended.
Combination of heat sink, heat pipe & heat sink fan is recommended for your 16x PCI Express card.
SATA-II HDD is highly recommended. If possible, at least three HDs in RAID (RAID-5, if supported by your mainboard) would be better.
If possible use RD RAM. While choosing a RAM, you should be aware of the latency time factor.
My last recommendation is an Antec cabinet with a 380 watt or higher capacity SMPS (should be a true-power).
Cool & Quite technology keeps the processor enough cool. But, today's P4 is suffering from cooling problem. P4 doesn't posses the ability of varying its speed according to speed. Only it knows to turn off the PC when over heated.
AMD 64 is an extended 64-bit processor that is much cheaper than Intel 64-bit processor.
AMD 64 comes with special SP2 support and Intel doesn't.
3DNow! and Extended 3DNow! are available in AMD processor.
Now it's your choice.
400 watt SMPS, if true power, is enough.
For AMD64 ASUS mainboard based on nForce 4 ultra chipset is recommended.
Combination of heat sink, heat pipe & heat sink fan is recommended for your 16x PCI Express card.
SATA-II HDD is highly recommended. If possible, at least three HDs in RAID (RAID-5, if supported by your mainboard) would be better.
If possible use RD RAM. While choosing a RAM, you should be aware of the latency time factor.
My last recommendation is an Antec cabinet with a 380 watt or higher capacity SMPS (should be a true-power).
gfcentral002
Reply #27 Monday, September 5, 2005 4:53 PM
Reply #27 Monday, September 5, 2005 4:53 PM
i currently run an amd athlon xp 2500+, and i'm using an Ultra X-Connect 500watt power supply (i like only using the plugs i need) so far haven't had problems with it, was using Antec powersupply in my computer (and sisters) you should be sure to get a case that has options for more than 1 fan, e.g., rear fan (usually can get a case that will allow 2), side fan, front fan, and make sure your power supply come with a bottom fan also, to help pull air out and then through the back fan - gotta keep the air moving
so far haven't had problems with it, was using Antec powersupply in my computer (and sisters) you should be sure to get a case that has options for more than 1 fan, e.g., rear fan (usually can get a case that will allow 2), side fan, front fan, and make sure your power supply come with a bottom fan also, to help pull air out and then through the back fan - gotta keep the air moving
SlimSpaceman
Reply #29 Tuesday, September 6, 2005 3:39 AM
Reply #29 Tuesday, September 6, 2005 3:39 AM
Today it has just been decided that I am not gonna upgrade my computer (yet...) 
SlimSpaceman
Reply #30 Tuesday, September 6, 2005 3:44 AM
Reply #30 Tuesday, September 6, 2005 3:44 AM
In THREE LONG MONTHS i will probably get a new computer... 
TexasJoe
Reply #32 Tuesday, September 6, 2005 4:49 AM
Reply #32 Tuesday, September 6, 2005 4:49 AM
For office use, I would recommend a Pentium 4 (over 3.2 Ghz if you consider upgrading to Windows Vista at some point and/or watch HD videos). For "multimedia purposes" both AMD 64 and P4 are equally capable (you should find P4's clocked 3.2Ghz -and higher- or AMD 64's 3400+ -and above- at quite reasonable price points since both manufacturers are phasing out single-core processors for replacement with dual-core ones which are taking over. For gaming, I reckon AMD 64's are the best thing around for the present time. My recommendation: prefer socket 939 for easy upgrade!
SlimSpaceman
Reply #33 Tuesday, September 6, 2005 2:56 PM
Reply #33 Tuesday, September 6, 2005 2:56 PM
Yea... My other friend (lifeisagame) also told me that for office work and design P4 is better (better multitasking)... But P4 is more expensive... (I'm 15 years old, and my father...well...you know...)
Ivor Larjun
Reply #34 Friday, October 28, 2005 10:17 AM
Actually the pentium chips run hotter than the AMD chips now, i have an xp3000 chip runnning @ 2.4ghz, but when it gets replaced this year im after a dual core 64bit athlon.
Reply #34 Friday, October 28, 2005 10:17 AM
Actually the pentium chips run hotter than the AMD chips now, i have an xp3000 chip runnning @ 2.4ghz, but when it gets replaced this year im after a dual core 64bit athlon.
scorpio-logic
Reply #35 Monday, October 31, 2005 1:06 AM
Reply #35 Monday, October 31, 2005 1:06 AM
Okay, so I am new in posting around here...but I agree with Himangshu, go AMD on an ASUS mobo. Nowadays, board makers are making the mobos so that you have to have a good fan going (plugged in the board) or they won't run...you just get a nice series of beeps. The only reason an AMD might cook through your motherboard is if you are crazy enough to OC the cpu to a point that it is no longer stable AND you forgot to put a fan on it. If you do go AMD, nVidia chipsets seems to like it better than others. My opinion has been formed by trial and error, error being a melted board and a few warped cpu dies.
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Reply #21 Sunday, September 4, 2005 12:53 PM
They need big fans to keep cool