Why Build With No Trees?
Monday, August 22, 2005 by joeKnowledge | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Richard Patterson for The New York Times
WHY???
I posted this on my blog as a responce to other posts:
And yet they keep on biulding them like this.
I understand part of the reason... trees roots grow in sewer lines... they break up sidewalks... they can also do other things that can be home owner nightmares (like falling on your house, getting fined for not taking care of the tree or distroying it)
There has to be a balance between the picture above and having some trees. I mean come on! With the housing market at its peak now, almost anyone can afford to add more sidewalk or more street (maybe even an island in the middle of the street for trees)
Face it: The best nieghborhoods to grow up in have trees. Period.
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So what do you think? Why does America make these blank statements of urban sprawl? I an't imagine being a kid growing up in that? No shade, no tag bases, no climbing, no nothing!!!!!
Its crazy! I am tired of it. I think I wanted to become an architect just to stop this crap.
One day, I am going to go back to school for Architecture (like when I am 55 or 60) and live my other dream once upon a time ago...
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TheSkinsFactory
Reply #22 Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:37 PM
Reply #22 Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:37 PM
Most new developments start with younger trees...
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Reply #23 Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:00 PM
Reply #23 Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:00 PM
That is a very nice offer. Yes, I have thought about living in Florida, I would love to live there, but there are too many hurricanes. We deal with enough already here in NC, but there is more land between us and the water than there would be in Florida. One is going on right now!! Our daughter, her 3 kids and husband are here too. We want to be part of their lives. We don't have a payroll or overhead as I am the only employee. I operate the Instrument. We planned and worked hard to start our business debt free. He has been using alot of GPS lately as I was injured on the job and can not work right now. He is also partnered up more or less with our past boss (before we started the business) Have you considered living in NC? It is horrible trying to find people that know how to survey anymore. Most of them are drug addicts or people who are there to get a paycheck, and couldn't tell the difference between a prism pole and the gun!! When my husband got started 25 years ago, they were still pulling chains. A person had to work their way up the ranks. Now it is so desperate around here, anybody is hired to fill in, and you must know what that is like. Not good!!! 
Lantec
Reply #24 Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:22 PM
Reply #24 Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:22 PM
I'm a Florida Native. Here that's 1 out of every 10 people you meet. From what I hear, in the Carolina's is where you'll find the other nine Floridians. I believe we're as loved there as New Yorkers are here. 
I still have a plumb-bob and a brass level I use as "decoration" If I dig around in the garage I can probably find a 100' metal tape and a few pk nails. Your right about the availability of good crew personnel. It's the same with Engineers. They all go for Transportation nowadays because it's easier. When you do find one with Development experience they prefer to work on the Government side where it's a 2 hour work day with 6 hours of breaks.
I stopped surveying for health reasons. I cut my kneecap in half with a machete in 1986 and haven't been able to kneel very well since. I started doing drainage design after that to stay out of the heat.
I was actually pushed into starting my own business by my co-workers. My last employer was more interested in his Social Position in town than taking care of the people feeding him. You may know the type....built a new home just off the beach, bought himself a 28ft offshore fishing boat and bought his wife a Jag for X-mas and then told us no one would be getting bonuses because it was a bad year. That was 1990, and I never regretted my decision even though it took me eight years to pay off the debt I incurred in the first two.
Stay safe. Stay inside during the storm. Most of the injuries and deaths occur during the clean-up (recent events being the exception).
I still have a plumb-bob and a brass level I use as "decoration" If I dig around in the garage I can probably find a 100' metal tape and a few pk nails. Your right about the availability of good crew personnel. It's the same with Engineers. They all go for Transportation nowadays because it's easier. When you do find one with Development experience they prefer to work on the Government side where it's a 2 hour work day with 6 hours of breaks.
I stopped surveying for health reasons. I cut my kneecap in half with a machete in 1986 and haven't been able to kneel very well since. I started doing drainage design after that to stay out of the heat.
I was actually pushed into starting my own business by my co-workers. My last employer was more interested in his Social Position in town than taking care of the people feeding him. You may know the type....built a new home just off the beach, bought himself a 28ft offshore fishing boat and bought his wife a Jag for X-mas and then told us no one would be getting bonuses because it was a bad year. That was 1990, and I never regretted my decision even though it took me eight years to pay off the debt I incurred in the first two.
Stay safe. Stay inside during the storm. Most of the injuries and deaths occur during the clean-up (recent events being the exception).
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Reply #25 Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:35 PM
Reply #25 Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:35 PM
Man, you did get hurt! I'm so sorry. That must have hurt like hell.I know the type you're talking about. That is so pathetic. Makes ya wonder how they sleep at night. Our old boss, now partner was the best man at our wedding. He is good people.
I fell down the hill of rocks on the railroad tracks and hurt my knee. I have Capsulitis in my right hip where it joins with my leg. I had quit a few stupid accidents while surveying. My right leg fell through an old rotten tree root up to the hip and that was the begining of the end for me. I only went down from the heat once. My ears started burning like they were on fire and the next thing I knew, Troy was bent over me squeezing the sweat out of his bandana on me. We were on our way out of the woods cos we had run out of water. Very scary. Took me 2 day's to get over it. We have pk nails all over the place!! Stakes, flagging and a few p-nuts too. Troy mostly does maps and design work now, occassionally GPS and some new sytem that just came out awhile back. We are getting too old to wander around the fallen trees in the woods!! There is alot of hurricane Fran destruction laying out there still. He designed alot of the streets in Raleigh as well as alot of the newer parts of the airport, strip malls and various places around the area. He loves it. I didn't love it as much as he does!!
The Engineers now a days are book smart, but when it comes to actual application and the way things really are, they are dumb as a door post. It isn't anything like it use to be. People took pride in their work. Now half of them don't even know what town they're in.
Well, I guess I have talked your ear off! I really am sorry you hurt yourself so bad. It's an easy thing to do in that job. I'm greatful I never cut myself on the few occassions I cut line or something. The guys were always pretty good to me, and always did most of the cutting. Not too many woman in the field yet and standing behind the gun all the time can get on ya after awhile. Every now and then I had to do something else. Take care.. Cindi
I fell down the hill of rocks on the railroad tracks and hurt my knee. I have Capsulitis in my right hip where it joins with my leg. I had quit a few stupid accidents while surveying. My right leg fell through an old rotten tree root up to the hip and that was the begining of the end for me. I only went down from the heat once. My ears started burning like they were on fire and the next thing I knew, Troy was bent over me squeezing the sweat out of his bandana on me. We were on our way out of the woods cos we had run out of water. Very scary. Took me 2 day's to get over it. We have pk nails all over the place!! Stakes, flagging and a few p-nuts too. Troy mostly does maps and design work now, occassionally GPS and some new sytem that just came out awhile back. We are getting too old to wander around the fallen trees in the woods!! There is alot of hurricane Fran destruction laying out there still. He designed alot of the streets in Raleigh as well as alot of the newer parts of the airport, strip malls and various places around the area. He loves it. I didn't love it as much as he does!!
The Engineers now a days are book smart, but when it comes to actual application and the way things really are, they are dumb as a door post. It isn't anything like it use to be. People took pride in their work. Now half of them don't even know what town they're in.
Well, I guess I have talked your ear off! I really am sorry you hurt yourself so bad. It's an easy thing to do in that job. I'm greatful I never cut myself on the few occassions I cut line or something. The guys were always pretty good to me, and always did most of the cutting. Not too many woman in the field yet and standing behind the gun all the time can get on ya after awhile. Every now and then I had to do something else. Take care.. Cindi
Lantec
Reply #27 Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:14 AM
Reply #27 Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:14 AM
Thanks Cindi,
You should get my response any time.
I think it's a great idea.
You should get my response any time.
I think it's a great idea.
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Reply #21 Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:21 PM