Tiger Unleashed
Friday, April 29, 2005 by Black Xero | Discussion: WinCustomize News
It's official—Apple Computer Inc. has released the long-awaited, much-speculated-upon OS X 10.4 Tiger operating system, an upgrade to the current OS X, complete with a smattering of bells and whistles. 
Apple says that its new OS, Mac OS X version 10.4, or Tiger, contains more than 200 new features and applications. The highlights are Spotlight, a desktop search technology; and Dashboard, a new way to access information using widgets. The OS also allows for videoconferences with other Tiger users.
Pros:
New Finder features; better interface responsiveness and overall speed, even on legacy hardware; Safari includes improved performance and RSS; QuickTime 7.0 offers higher-resolution video; new Automator allows systemwide scripting; Core Data and Core Image open up new opportunities to developers; better cross-platform compatibility.
Cons.
Most upgrades are hidden under the hood; features the average user will notice, such as Mail, clash with Apple's own user interface design; some features are unavailable on hardware older than a year or two.
Sources of the news:
CNET News: Link
eweek: Link
New Features: Link
Image: Link
Fine More Information at Apple's Site.
Apple says that its new OS, Mac OS X version 10.4, or Tiger, contains more than 200 new features and applications. The highlights are Spotlight, a desktop search technology; and Dashboard, a new way to access information using widgets. The OS also allows for videoconferences with other Tiger users.
Pros:
New Finder features; better interface responsiveness and overall speed, even on legacy hardware; Safari includes improved performance and RSS; QuickTime 7.0 offers higher-resolution video; new Automator allows systemwide scripting; Core Data and Core Image open up new opportunities to developers; better cross-platform compatibility.
Cons.
Most upgrades are hidden under the hood; features the average user will notice, such as Mail, clash with Apple's own user interface design; some features are unavailable on hardware older than a year or two.
Sources of the news:
CNET News: Link
eweek: Link
New Features: Link
Image: Link
Fine More Information at Apple's Site.
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mormegil
Reply #22 Sunday, May 1, 2005 11:42 PM
Reply #22 Sunday, May 1, 2005 11:42 PM
Upgraded to 10.2 tonight. Big waste of 129 bucks. This entire upgrade can be sumed up as "pritty but useless" Not only that they took all the i Apps out of the OS, except iTunes, so if you do a fresh install you lose them all. And have to buy iLife if you want iPhoto or iMovie. for an adtional $79 bucks....
TexasJoe
Reply #23 Monday, May 2, 2005 2:25 AM
Reply #23 Monday, May 2, 2005 2:25 AM
you got it mormegil, Tiger is nothing but a Service Pack that Apple charges you the price of a full upgrade. With Windows you get that stuff for free. I sure feel bad for y'all who use Apple's OS and have to pay big bucks for their service packs! 
Black Xero
Reply #24 Monday, May 2, 2005 3:56 AM
OSX 10.2 is really a garbage but 10.4 is Something.
Reply #24 Monday, May 2, 2005 3:56 AM
| Upgraded to 10.2 tonight. |
| Apple Computer Inc. has released the long-awaited, much-speculated-upon OS X 10.4 Tiger operating system |
OSX 10.2 is really a garbage but 10.4 is Something.
Eroticus Prime
Reply #26 Monday, May 2, 2005 6:14 AM
Because you were acting like you were right about everything, which I wanted to prove wasn't the case.
Gee, removing what was going to be an integral part of Longhorn, WinFS, isn't regressing at aaaaaall, is it?
And it's not flaming simply because he didn't attack Microsoft, he merely pointed out something he'd observed to be the case, which I also agree with.
I read it as being implied. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
Yes, it is a term. A political term, as 'twere.
TexasJoe, Essencay, whoever else, those things needed to be said. It's that simple. Maybe it wasn't the right time or place, but they did need to be said.
I beg to differ. I would say the equivalent of Microsoft's service packs would be Apple's 10.x.x releases, for example, 10.3.1 all the way to 10.3.9, which not only fix security and bugs as service packs do, but also add features, something only XP SP2 has done so far. (And Apple has released 9 since late 2003, to Microsoft's pathetic 2 since 2001.)
There's a huge amount of under the hood updates and new features in Tiger as the original news topic suggests, but having not used it yet it's not worth me getting into.
Reply #26 Monday, May 2, 2005 6:14 AM
| Why argue symantecs when you know what someone means? |
Because you were acting like you were right about everything, which I wanted to prove wasn't the case.
| Explain how that isn't flaming, because there is no shred of evidence there are any regressions. |
Gee, removing what was going to be an integral part of Longhorn, WinFS, isn't regressing at aaaaaall, is it?
And it's not flaming simply because he didn't attack Microsoft, he merely pointed out something he'd observed to be the case, which I also agree with.
| And where do you see that he said feature set anywhere? |
I read it as being implied. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
| It's a friggin' term for christ sake. |
Yes, it is a term. A political term, as 'twere.
TexasJoe, Essencay, whoever else, those things needed to be said. It's that simple. Maybe it wasn't the right time or place, but they did need to be said.
| you got it mormegil, Tiger is nothing but a Service Pack that Apple charges you the price of a full upgrade. With Windows you get that stuff for free. I sure feel bad for y'all who use Apple's OS and have to pay big bucks for their service packs! |
I beg to differ. I would say the equivalent of Microsoft's service packs would be Apple's 10.x.x releases, for example, 10.3.1 all the way to 10.3.9, which not only fix security and bugs as service packs do, but also add features, something only XP SP2 has done so far. (And Apple has released 9 since late 2003, to Microsoft's pathetic 2 since 2001.)
There's a huge amount of under the hood updates and new features in Tiger as the original news topic suggests, but having not used it yet it's not worth me getting into.
TexasJoe
Reply #27 Monday, May 2, 2005 6:22 AM
Reply #27 Monday, May 2, 2005 6:22 AM
I respectlfully disagree. Paul Thurrott who I trust to be an unbiased journalist wrote in his review: "Apple Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" is the strongest OS X release yet and a worthy competitor to Windows XP. Though it is marketed by Apple as a major release, Tiger is in fact a minor upgrade with few major new features for end users (though developers will be interested in some of the low-level work Apple has done with Core Image, Core Audio, and other technologies. That won't stop Apple fans from flocking to Apple Stores on April 29 and standing in line to buy it, even at its inflated $129 price."
WinFS, again, will ship some time later, after Longhorn is released. This is so for legitimate reasons, like to not delay Longhorn's release to public any further than Holiday 2006. I wouldn't personally want MS to announce a release some time in 2007, because then it may take another 12 months. They locked the schedule on December 2006 (as the latest). I read October 2006 on Paul Thurrott's website.
WinFS, again, will ship some time later, after Longhorn is released. This is so for legitimate reasons, like to not delay Longhorn's release to public any further than Holiday 2006. I wouldn't personally want MS to announce a release some time in 2007, because then it may take another 12 months. They locked the schedule on December 2006 (as the latest). I read October 2006 on Paul Thurrott's website.
jeffsosta
Reply #28 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 2:45 AM
Gee, sounds like a contradiction here. Maybe I was wrong in calling him a hipocrite... Seems that whenever someone gives an opinion that suits your case everything is fine, but when someone says something you don't agree with they must act "like you were right about everything."
Why do you even keep bringing this up? he said nothing about it in his comment, so why are you trying to prove me wrong about something i havn't talked about?
Reply #28 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 2:45 AM
| Because you were acting like you were right about everything, which I wanted to prove wasn't the case. |
| And it's not flaming simply because he didn't attack Microsoft, he merely pointed out something he'd observed to be the case, which I also agree with. |
Gee, sounds like a contradiction here. Maybe I was wrong in calling him a hipocrite... Seems that whenever someone gives an opinion that suits your case everything is fine, but when someone says something you don't agree with they must act "like you were right about everything."
| Gee, removing what was going to be an integral part of Longhorn, WinFS, isn't regressing at aaaaaall, is it? |
Why do you even keep bringing this up? he said nothing about it in his comment, so why are you trying to prove me wrong about something i havn't talked about?
Eroticus Prime
Reply #29 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 4:24 AM
Reply #29 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 4:24 AM
Omfg, are you a moron? I've lost all patience with you now. You said there was no evidence of regression. The removal of WinFS is a prime piece of evidence.
Jafo
Reply #30 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:08 AM
Reply #30 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:08 AM
OK, folks .... a bit more of 'argue the debate' and a bit less of 'attack the debater', thanks....
TexasJoe
Reply #31 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 11:49 AM
Reply #31 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 11:49 AM
I woudn't personally call this regression but being schedule-conscious and smart. And please quit the blasphemous swearing please.
Black Xero
Reply #32 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 11:59 AM
Was just goin to say the same .. thanks
Reply #32 Tuesday, May 3, 2005 11:59 AM
| a bit more of 'argue the debate' and a bit less of 'attack the debater', thanks.... |
Was just goin to say the same .. thanks
Vorsavhit
Reply #34 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 3:14 PM
Reply #34 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 3:14 PM
Us Mac users flocking to get Tiger at an inflated price? Well at least us Mac users love the system enough to BE dedicated...oh and how much was the last Windows upgrade anyway? That's what I thought.
Vorsavhit
Reply #35 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 3:16 PM
Reply #35 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 3:16 PM
Oh, and another thing about Tiger...Apple doesn't suggest in any way that this upgrade makes your Mac more stable...oh yeah, that's because it's like a rock as it is...every damn Winblows upgrade promises fewer crashes. My ass.
Woodbridge
Reply #37 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 3:40 PM
Reply #37 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 3:40 PM
My Windows is a rock solid stablity wise as my Mac...
Do you type Microsoft as Micro$oft ? Just out of curiosity
Do you type Microsoft as Micro$oft ? Just out of curiosity
TexasJoe
Reply #38 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 4:58 PM
Reply #38 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 4:58 PM
I honestly don't know who of MS or Apple is the greedier! There's a whole lot MS offers for free to Windows users. I take it this is not the same with Apple, stealing ideas from smaller developers and selling'em at an inflated price! Look at the iPods, their price is way overrated for what it is. Making big bugs at y'all's expense and y'all are begging for some more. Good it keeps the economy going... until the Fed'l Trade Commission makes it even with MS by filing an Antitrust lawsuit against Apple on the same grounds as MS that was allegedly hindering competitive software.
Eroticus Prime
Reply #39 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 5:50 PM
Reply #39 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 5:50 PM
Vorsavhit, I agree with everything you've said. I want a Mac so bad it hurts.. 
Vorsavhit
Reply #40 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:54 PM
Reply #40 Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:54 PM
Hmm...maybe the iPods are a whopping $50 more because they did it right...let's see a "Micro$oft" brand mp3 player and see how it takes off...right...
"Micro$oft brand mp3 player(ver.2.06)! Now guaranteed to work with Windows XP! (Service Pack 2 users will require patch easily obtainable at micro$oft.bomb)."
You go get 'em Gates. But I'm sure you're (the sheep-like masses) are right...we're the ones who are dumb for buying a product that works. Stupid me! And to think I was buying winblows products because that's just what you do...everyone has a sucky-ass computer, I better go get one too! Damn service pack 2...
Hail Mac! Ziss ist mein verking computer!!
p.s. Mr Eroticus Prime:
Do it and look back with a grin at all the rest.
p.s.s. Anyone with the actual knowledge can answer this one: Where did Gates's idea for an operating system come from again??? You're right though...it's Mac that's the great idea thief. Damn them and their functional products!!
"Micro$oft brand mp3 player(ver.2.06)! Now guaranteed to work with Windows XP! (Service Pack 2 users will require patch easily obtainable at micro$oft.bomb)."
You go get 'em Gates. But I'm sure you're (the sheep-like masses) are right...we're the ones who are dumb for buying a product that works. Stupid me! And to think I was buying winblows products because that's just what you do...everyone has a sucky-ass computer, I better go get one too! Damn service pack 2...
Hail Mac! Ziss ist mein verking computer!!
p.s. Mr Eroticus Prime:
Do it and look back with a grin at all the rest.
p.s.s. Anyone with the actual knowledge can answer this one: Where did Gates's idea for an operating system come from again??? You're right though...it's Mac that's the great idea thief. Damn them and their functional products!!
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Reply #21 Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:07 PM
You nailed it TexasJoe