Tips for new users!
Tuesday, February 22, 2005 by Koasati | Discussion: New Users
What I hope happens in this thread is that the people I see helping others in the forums, will help me put together tips for the new folks.
This stuff can be confusing at first, and we see a lot of the same questions being asked often. So, we should be able to answer them in this thread, where they'll be easy to find.
The Problem:
Auto-installing Skin/Theme files are downloaded as zip files.
The Cause:
SP2 appears to be common factor here, but some people report no change after SP2.
What's happening is this... self installing file extension for most skinning programs are simply renamed ZIP archives. For some reason after SP2 is installed on XP, the extensions are renamed back to .zip when downloaded.
But it's easily fixed.
The Solution:
Step 1. File extension must not be hidden. If you're unsure what that means, open Control Panel > Folder Options > View tab > "Hide extensions for known file types" should be un-checked.
Step 2. Right-click the file and select Rename. Change the zip part of the name to the proper extenion. Example; skin1.zip = skin1.wba (for a WindowBlind skin)
DesktopX Themes = .dxtheme
DesktopX Objects = .dxpack
WindowBlinds = .wba
LogonStudio = .logonxp
BootSkin = .bootskin
CursorXP = .CurXPTheme
IconPackager = .ip
If you get a warning about changing the extention, click OK
Step 3. Double-click the renamed file.
Lantec pointed out that if you use Firefox (or Opera), this file extension won't be renamed when you download.
Monday, January 03, 2005
Just a note;
I was having this problem constantly until I switched browsers.
Since I started using firefox all downloads autoinstall correctly and those that don't auto install have the right extension. There are a whole bunch of other advantages, but this one item makes it worth the trouble. SP2 has been a real pain.....
Jason Carver suggested this work around......... rename the files when you download.
Saturday, February 12, 2005
Heres a shorter shortcut ( well shorter in my opinion )
First write down the file extensions listed here. Next pick something to download. In this case , ill download a Window Blind file. When you click download. It shows the save as dialog. Below it , you have two choices from a drop down menu. "Zip files" and All files. Select all files , and add .wba to the end of the file name. When its done saving , you click open and TADA! its installed.
**UPDATE**
So, you like Internet Explorer....you don't want to switch browsers?
It appears that the problem can be fixed by installing a 3rd party archive program [WinZip, ZipCentral, IZArc, etc.] The problem seems to be caused by XP's built-in zip program.
Reply #22 Monday, February 28, 2005 12:27 PM
WindowBlinds need the WindowBlinds program, CursorXP sets need the CursorXP program, and so on...... suites are collections of skins that are applied as a theme with Theme Manager.
Click the Software tab above, or use this https://www.wincustomize.com/software.aspx to access the downloads of the programs needed.
I know this is a rather simplistic explanation, but I hope it gets you started. Others more familiar with Theme Manager may be able to explain it better. (I don't use it, being more of a do it yourself kind of guy) 
Reply #23 Monday, February 28, 2005 2:33 PM
Theme Manager is a sort of component coordinator. It looks at a .suite file and communicates with all the individual programs responsible for applying the different components of a theme.
For example, the computer needs the WindowBlinds program to change the appearance of the Start Menu, Taskbar, Explorer shell (the window frame, menu bar, tool bars, toolbar icons, as well as animations (like when you download a file, you have a nice little dialog box with a progress bar or animation).
The computer also needs Icon Packager to change the system icons (folders, start menu icons, file type icons, etc.), it needs DesktopX (until gadgets get going) to display widgets on the desktop, (such as the weather, a calendar, an analog clock to name a few), it needs Cursor XP to change the cursors, and of course you may want to change the wallpaper on the desktop.
These are a few of the programs that Theme Manager can communicate with, and instead of the user having to load each program individually and select and apply a skin or package - Theme Manager handles all the loading and applying for you by looking at the suite, writing the files to their correct locations and instructing all the individual programs to apply the components of the suite.
You just load Theme Manager, select a suite, and click apply - Theme Manager handles the rest. It will also allow you to save a theme as a ".suite" file for uploading and sharing with others.
Note - as Koasati indicated, you will need the relevant programs installed on your computer because they are the softwares that actually apply the changes.
I hope this made sense, and is not too long-winded.

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Reply #26 Tuesday, March 1, 2005 8:07 PM

Reply #27 Tuesday, March 1, 2005 10:02 PM
| ok fair enough, i forgot to download the software lol whoops |

Reply #28 Wednesday, March 2, 2005 12:38 AM
They do show up under my skins submissions as well as if I or anyone else specifically searches for them by keyword, but do not show up as "new created objectdock icons" in the objectdock catagory.
The only thing I can think of for as why this occurs is that I am not at the proper member level to have my submissions show up like that. I really think that if I am doing quality (my opinion I guess) work and generally show an interest in continuing that what I submit should show up in the catagory without requiring to do a specific search for them.
If I am just missing something here or perhaps there is a really obvious answer to this then I apologize and would very much appreciate it if anyone could help me out with this.
P.S. If this is not the correct thread please move this message to the appropriate place.
Reply #30 Wednesday, March 2, 2005 8:06 AM
Thanks for any help you can give. I did get the laptop up and running following the crash. I did do a system restore (XP) but mostly I think it was just a qustion of going through safe mode and letting XP mend itself.
The splash screen is more an annoyance than anything else. it looks fine on my desktop at home and had looked ok on the laptop until my crash. The rightclick menu worked fine on both until the crash and now doesn't seem to load properly on the laptop. It could be that all of these things are somewhat unurelated, but seems suspicious.
in going to the bootskin site it mentioned two other versions of the program if there were problems. I guess I am a little gunshy about making a change if it means another sleepless night bringing my system back, but that could be the issue.
I guess I am a little unclear on how to uninstall and then reinstall DO. Will I lose the settings I have now? I have built a basick desktop now and don't realy want to start from scratch.
Hope this helps in your diagnosis.
charms
Reply #31 Wednesday, March 2, 2005 11:26 AM
| Citizen LunaHa1o - I see them just fine. |
Please go here https://www.wincustomize.com/Skins.aspx?LibID=29
and tell me if you can find any of my icons I created on any of those pages.
I created them on 2/28, 2/27, and 2/25 so they should be included in the first three pages. They are not. The only way to find my icons is to type in a search for them.
Why is this when everyone else's seem to automatically get listed by creation (updated) date in the catagory?
Reply #32 Wednesday, March 2, 2005 11:39 AM
Reply #33 Wednesday, March 2, 2005 12:11 PM
| Go to "My Account" > Preferences > "Show skins with this rating or higher:" ... adjust that setting to show All Skins, and you're set. |
This is going to sound like I have no idea what I'm doing, but I really do. If I told you I don't have an option to change that everyone would probably just think I don't know how so I included a screenshot of the preferences tab to show you.
There is no dropdown box, radio selection, checkbox, or anything else after "Show skins with this rating or higher:" as you can see by this screenshot. http://ltpn.websiteallies.com/storage/stuff/wincustomize1.jpg
The only thing I can think of is that somewhere there is a setting that is not allowing me to view my own skins, however when I tried logging out I still could not view my skins nor could I on a different computer at a different location. Please do not click my name to view my skins. Go to the ObjectDock catagory on the main page and my skins should show up within the first 3 pages since they are listed by creation / update date. I can list them by author, skin name, etc and I still can't get mine to show up there.
Reply #34 Wednesday, March 2, 2005 3:11 PM
Because my knowledge comes from personal experience and learning from friends who are network administrators, my approach is less adventurous, and more likely to attempt getting back to “ground zero”, after which I reapply programs step-by-step to avoid confusion.
When performing an “Uninstall, Reboot, Reinstall” – I always do the following:
1) Deselect any options to “start automatically when windows starts” in ObjectDock, DesktopX, and any Widgets running.
2) Unload all programs.
3) Reset the Windows GUI to the default settings (in XP use “Display Properties > Themes tab > theme drop-down list > select Windows XP > click “Apply”).
4) Set the screensaver option to “None” (found in Display Properties under Screensaver tab) - then, click “Apply”.
5) Create a folder named “Odesk_Backup” in the “My Documents” folder.
6) Inside the “Odesk_Backup” folder, I create additional folders (i.e., Windowblinds, ObjectDock_images, ObjectDock_backgrounds, ObjectDock_themes, IconPackager, Widgets, DXObjects, DXThemes, ThemeManagerSuites) – note that I included ObjectDock which is not part of the ObjectDesktop suite for completeness, not as a requirement.
7) I then go to “C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop” folder and copy the following files to their relevant folders in the “Odesk_Backup” folder: (a) All skin folders in the “WindowBlinds” folder, (
8) For completeness I do the same for ObjectDock, as follows: Go to “C:\Program Files\Stardock\ObjectDock” folder and copy the following files to their relevant folders in the “Odesk_Backup” folder – (a) all background files in the “Backgrounds” folder, (
9) Now that I have all files backed up, I use the “odnt_zapper” utility, which you can download through the link found in comment #1 of my post here: Link, I have used it before and it does a great job of uninstalling all Object Desktop components. Just download it, double-click to run, and use the "Uninstall tab to select and uninstall the programs you want to remove.
10) After completely uninstalling the programs, I reboot my computer, open “My Computer” and go to “Tools>Folder Options>View tab” and select “Show hidden files and folders”, then click “Apply”. Then I go to “C\Documents and Settings\”user name”\Local Settings\Application Data” folder (where “C” is the letter drive, and “user name” is the name on the account when logged in), I then delete any “Stardock” folder found here.
11) I go to “C:\Program Files” and delete any “Stardock” folder found here, (where “C” is the letter drive).
12) Now I reinstall Object Desktop programs either off the CD or through Stardock Central, and reboot the computer (note – if using “Stardock Central” you will want to delete any restore archives “Before” installing the Object Desktop programs. This is to prevent previous issues from possibly being reinstalled. To do this, run Stardock Central and go to “File>Restore Archive” and delete any Object Desktop restore archives – do not delete any archives for programs that you are not “uninstalling and reinstalling”).
13) I then run each program one at a time either with the default theme or by selecting a theme or package that came with the program to insure that the install procedure was successful.
14) After completing step #13, I copy my backup files back to their proper locations, and I am ready to apply any Desktop Theme I had made previous to the procedure – hopefully without any issues.
Note – when copying files back, the system will indicate whether there is already a file by that name in the destination folder – always select the option that tells the system “Not” to overwrite the file already there.
Note #2 – I have used “Bootskin” before, but I decided that I want to see my boot screen options, so I uninstalled it and therefore have little knowledge to offer concerning that program. I do however think that the “uninstall, reboot, reinstall” method is a good idea, even after a successful system restore, because it allows the OS to install the program cleanly with it’s current configuration and should therefore work well.
I have used this method myself a few times and have been successful with it, so I feel confident with the results – especially if you use the “odnt_zapper” utility mentioned in step #9.
There is also an option in the settings menu of Stardock Central which enables (acronym starting with "M" - not at my home machine so I can't check till later). Deselecting this seems to stop the Object Desktop splash screen, but I have not contacted Stardock support yet to clarify what it does, so it is currently a "Try at your own risk" comment from me. Someone posted a thread on this a few days ago "Essencay" maybe?
I know this is a long comment and apologize to anyone aggravated by it; I just wanted it to be as complete as possible.
This procedure is geared towards any situation where identifying the problem program has been difficult or seemingly impossible and allows the user to test the programs after reinstall with the default settings of each program. If the program runs correctly with a default or included theme after reinstall, the user can be confident that the program has installed and registered with the OS correctly.
I hope this helps in some way.

Reply #35 Wednesday, March 2, 2005 9:22 PM
| There is no dropdown box, radio selection, checkbox, or anything else after "Show skins with this rating or higher:" as you can see by this screenshot. |
LunaHa1o... I should have checked your User Level before I mentioned the preferences. You don't have the ability to change that setting at your level. Those that use only the free products don't have as many options as customers, and subscribers.
Reply #36 Wednesday, March 2, 2005 11:04 PM
| LunaHa1o... I should have checked your User Level before I mentioned the preferences. You don't have the ability to change that setting at your level. Those that use only the free products don't have as many options as customers, and subscribers. |
I see... I believe that this has been solved then because if I go to advanced search options and check every box (or just dock icons since that is my catagory of my icons) then mine do indeed show up in the correct spots.
Thanks for everyone who has helped me out with this issue. Hope to become a subscriber in the near future.
Perhaps someone here could answer a couple of other questions that I'm sure a lot of new members have...
How do you get your rating higher? Is it purely by the number of downloads? I do not see anywhere an option to "vote" for skins. Is that a subscriber only feature as well (to vote)? Also, under "my skins" it says my rankings for all of them are "5" but if I click on them to go to the more info page they only have 2.5 stars. Is this a known issue or am I just missing something?
Reply #37 Wednesday, March 2, 2005 11:12 PM
The old site used a 1 to 10 rating scale, and upon moving to the new site a "star" rating system was adopted. It is my understanding that the rankings under my skins will be changed in time to reflect the new system, and is a "leftover" of sorts from the transition to the new site.
At least this is my understanding, though I am currently a subscriber level.

Reply #38 Friday, March 4, 2005 9:20 AM
Printed your suggestions and will give it a shot soon.
Checked out your profile. How do I download some of your skins? I particularly like Lovelight...
Maybe I"m missing something someplace...
Let me know,
charms55

Reply #39 Friday, March 4, 2005 9:42 AM
Lovelight and some of the others are a screenshots of my desktop -most of which are others art I assembled for the shot, the components are listed in the details, and most of those are available here at WC.

The wall from that shot (which I modified slightly to fit my screen) can be found here: Link
The Zippo stuff here: Link
The Firefly icon links: Link, Link, Link, Link
Have fun.

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Reply #21 Monday, February 28, 2005 11:29 AM
What should b done to remedy tis???D file is in .suite form....
HeLp..