Newb making skins has questions
Wednesday, January 26, 2005 by Will_Uknight | Discussion: Docks
Okay, i've just begin designing a few docks, and so far i've been able to 'rip' off other people dimensions to make skins. haver i do have a few questions.
1) How do i get a preview image of the dock to show up in the skin select window ? i've made 5 docks, and they're all previewless !
2) Could someone post an exclamation next to each of the dimension entries to give us newbs an idea of what they do ??
i'll start, correct me if i'm wrong.
LeftWidth = 23 - Refers to how large the image is ???
TopHeight = 8 - ditto ?
RightWidth = 12 - ditto ?
BottomHeight = 10 - ditto?
ContentBufferTop = 3 - Refers to how many pixels the icon is away from the top ?
ContentBufferBottom = 0 -ditto ?
ContentBufferLeft = 2 - ditto ?
ContentBufferRight = 2- ditto ?
OutsideBorderBottom = 29 - ??
1) How do i get a preview image of the dock to show up in the skin select window ? i've made 5 docks, and they're all previewless !
2) Could someone post an exclamation next to each of the dimension entries to give us newbs an idea of what they do ??
i'll start, correct me if i'm wrong.
LeftWidth = 23 - Refers to how large the image is ???
TopHeight = 8 - ditto ?
RightWidth = 12 - ditto ?
BottomHeight = 10 - ditto?
ContentBufferTop = 3 - Refers to how many pixels the icon is away from the top ?
ContentBufferBottom = 0 -ditto ?
ContentBufferLeft = 2 - ditto ?
ContentBufferRight = 2- ditto ?
OutsideBorderBottom = 29 - ??
CerebroJD
Reply #2 Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:42 AM I'm still tryin to figure all those out myself...will try to get back to you on this...
Have you read the "SkinningTheDock.txt" file in the OD folder on your hard-drive? It has all the skinning bits in it, and how to use them.
Reply #2 Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:42 AM
Have you read the "SkinningTheDock.txt" file in the OD folder on your hard-drive? It has all the skinning bits in it, and how to use them.
Koasati
Reply #3 Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:39 AM
Reply #3 Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:39 AM
| come on, i've got over 1000 downloads on my first skin ! surely i deserve an answer ? |
I didn't know answers were tied to download counts. 
As Cerebro points out, the answers are in the OD directory. 
Will_Uknight
Reply #4 Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:28 PM
Reply #4 Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:28 PM
well anwsers are given if people don't think that people are answering a stupid question, or are stupid themeselves. by pointing out my download count, i'm trying to reference that 
Thanks for your repies, you are right, the answeres to the second question are in the readme (don't know how i forgot that, i've skimmed it twice)
But i still don't have any idea how to make a preview image for the dock select screen??? it doesn't mention it in the read me...
Thanks for your repies, you are right, the answeres to the second question are in the readme (don't know how i forgot that, i've skimmed it twice)
But i still don't have any idea how to make a preview image for the dock select screen??? it doesn't mention it in the read me...
Koasati
Reply #5 Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:43 PM
Reply #5 Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:43 PM
The previews are generated from the images within the folder. I've noticed in some cases no preview is generated for tabbed docks, but I think that's due to a lot of transparency in the image being read. I'll investigate this later, and get back to you.
Will_Uknight
Reply #6 Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:28 PM
Reply #6 Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:28 PM
Thankyou. I've made about 5 different docks so far, but none of them have preoeview images 
Koasati
Reply #7 Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:51 PM
Reply #7 Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:51 PM
Standard docks appear to use the 'top' background for the preview, unless there's only one background image.
Tabbed docks appear to use one of the 'tab' images (in the normal state) for the preview, ignoring the background images altogther.
Tabbed docks appear to use one of the 'tab' images (in the normal state) for the preview, ignoring the background images altogther.
I downloaded your Smoke background to check, and there's no preview because your normal tab is a blank canvas. Not something I'd worry about too much.
Will_Uknight
Reply #9 Friday, January 28, 2005 5:56 PM
Reply #9 Friday, January 28, 2005 5:56 PM
heh possibly me as well.
so 1) the top background is used as the preview, but whats the difference between the normal state and the background state ? They're the same thing aren't they ?
It seemed to me like there were two parts to a skin, the Background, and the selection. The background (the tab and the tile) just 'scrolls down' to present the dock.
therefore how does the normal state and background state differ ?
Thanks alot Wizop Koasati
so 1) the top background is used as the preview, but whats the difference between the normal state and the background state ? They're the same thing aren't they ?
It seemed to me like there were two parts to a skin, the Background, and the selection. The background (the tab and the tile) just 'scrolls down' to present the dock.
therefore how does the normal state and background state differ ?
Thanks alot Wizop Koasati
Koasati
Reply #10 Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:33 AM
Reply #10 Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:33 AM
The tabbed dock previews are generated from the TABS, not the background image. Tabs can have a normal state, and a selected state. The normal state is used for the preview.
Will_Uknight
Reply #11 Monday, February 7, 2005 1:57 AM
Reply #11 Monday, February 7, 2005 1:57 AM
Ah right i see whatyou mean now. I've managed to get a preview on my 'ripped' skin 
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Now, in reference to the second question in my post,
I've had this really great idea for a dock, and i've gone ahead and made the graphics for it, however there is one problem:
I've got no idea how to adapt the ini file to match the specifications of my skin.
my skins main images are 184x98 pixels.
I can't figure out how to set the margins/offsets to encompass my skin. No matter how i look at that blasted readme, it doesn't tell me what i want to know, or at least tell me in a way i can understand !!
So what i want to know is :
1) The 'Tab' part of my dock is 38 pixels vertical. How do i set this part to be the tabs, and then roll down for the icons ??
Possibly the best way for someone to help me would be for me to post the dock iamge, but i don't want anyone taking this idea because i'm not quick enough.
Perhaps someone could co-produce this dock for me.
They do the ini (and hopefully i can figure out how they did it), and i'll provide the gfx, and when i post the dock, i'll give them credit for their assistence.
to do that for me
Don't tell me to go and read the readme, because i have, and it wasn't any help. And i can't adapt any of the other docks because they're all too small.
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Now, in reference to the second question in my post,
I've had this really great idea for a dock, and i've gone ahead and made the graphics for it, however there is one problem:
I've got no idea how to adapt the ini file to match the specifications of my skin.
my skins main images are 184x98 pixels.
I can't figure out how to set the margins/offsets to encompass my skin. No matter how i look at that blasted readme, it doesn't tell me what i want to know, or at least tell me in a way i can understand !!
So what i want to know is :
1) The 'Tab' part of my dock is 38 pixels vertical. How do i set this part to be the tabs, and then roll down for the icons ??
Possibly the best way for someone to help me would be for me to post the dock iamge, but i don't want anyone taking this idea because i'm not quick enough.
Perhaps someone could co-produce this dock for me.
They do the ini (and hopefully i can figure out how they did it), and i'll provide the gfx, and when i post the dock, i'll give them credit for their assistence.
to do that for me
Don't tell me to go and read the readme, because i have, and it wasn't any help. And i can't adapt any of the other docks because they're all too small.
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Reply #1 Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:01 AM
surely i deserve an answer ? i did serch...