HG_Eliminator / Turtle Soup 2
Sunday, August 15, 2004 by Csurfside | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
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Reply #142 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 6:40 AM
Question: I was thinking about purchasing the Object Desktop suite this afternoon, will it be cheaper for me because I have already purchased three things?
Also I was wondering about what would happen if I get it and then it does'nt work...'
And last but not least, If I do get it does it come with a version of IconX that has the bugs worked out yet, i've read some other posts that say it is buggy...
Also I noticed with it you can have mutiple monitors 'seperate desktops' like in Litestep.
One more thing. If I download Object Desktop is it one installer that installs all the programs?
Does it include everything (Program wise)on the site, like Widgets, ect.
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Reply #143 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 6:52 AM
csurfside: now that you got everything working great, create a restore point in XP's System Restore (Start/Programs/Accessories/System Tools/System Restore). That way you can still play around LiteStep or whatever you wish and if your system goes haywire instread of formating again for the Nth time, just do a system restore. 
Why don't you just purchase Object Desktop (50$ the first year, 35$/year after that) instead of buying every software seperatly. The only thing that does NOT come with Object Desktop is Cursor XP and Object Dock Plus. Window Blinds, Icon X, Desktop X, Object Bar, and over a dozen more programs are included. If you just purchased one of the above and would wish to change your purchase to the whole Object Desktop suite, maybe you can contact Stardock sales (sales @ Stardock.com) and maybe they would just make you pay the difference. You never know. Note that when you subscribe to Object Desktop, you have access to all the alpha and beta versions, so you always have the latest up to date version of every program.
Reply #144 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 7:39 AM
The problem with the Litestep was that I lost my desktop all together and then was unable to reboot and recover it or get any keyboard functions to respond so I dont see how a restore point would,ve helped me, but thanx for your advise.
I dont believe that a retore point is worth having. I keep it turned off to save space even though I have a 120 gig hard drive. Plus, it allows for spyware and viruses to embed themselves. I love learning new things, so if there is something that would be more effective please feel free to share.
Also, I usually just use norton ghost disk to copy my hard drive to another for a back up.
As for the Object Desktop, I have already purchased the window blinds, I dont think I would mind paying the full fee up front. I dont understand why you have to pay an extra fee every year. Im supposing that is if people want to keep getting the latest updates.
Are all the bugs worked out of IconX yet?
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Reply #145 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 7:52 AM
If you have Norton Ghost, I guess that is a good alternative to System Restore.
As for Object Desktop, it's a yearly subscrition that gives you access to all the Object Desktop software for a full year, instead of only buying a one time software. Every version of every software there will be available to you. If you don't renew your subscription, you still gte to keep the software you have of course. You're not renting the software, you're given the opportunity to download and install everything. For example, if you purchased Windowsblinds 4, you only purchased the version 4 of Windowblinds. But if you're an Object Desktop subscriber, and Windowblinds 5 is released during your subscription, it's yours. Not to mention that Windowblinds is 20$, IconPackager is 20$, DesktopX is 20$, Windows FX is 20$, Icon X is 10$. But you get all these and many more goodies for only 50$ with Object Desktop (furthermore renewal is only 35$). Well worth it if you ask me.
Reply #147 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 8:01 AM
Reply #148 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 8:14 AM
sales @ stardock.com
As for IconX I have no idea, I don't use (don't like it, personnally).
Reply #149 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 8:19 AM
Contrary to popular mis-information, LiteSTEP will never 'require' you to reformat, or to reinstall Windows.
It is a simple executable much like notepad.exe except it provides module-loading capacity to create an alternate GUI functionality to that of Explorer.exe [yet another simple executable].
In XP life is dead simple, as the OS kernel is directly accessible via the task manager enabling the stopping of any errant process, or the starting of such as regedit or, better still, an alternate Shell management proggy for those who might need more hand-holding.
XP can happily run shell-less and therefore GUI-less....though it gets a bit tedious working via Task Manager, it's not impossible at all.
I used to load a shell manager to assist in switching between them but now I can't be bothered...I just kill one process or another.
Sure, you can load a dud theme and end up without a GUI....but that's a minor glitch, not a reason to abandon ship and swear off shells for all eternity.
You should NEVER 'need' System Restore to recover from a bad shell load....talk about overkill...
System Restore is for those who delete their System32 folder or some such in an attempt to save space......and wonder why the comp is only half there.....
In all my themes I include the line in my 'ReadmeFirst.txt'....
Remember....Litestep doesn't kill computers....people kill computers....
Reply #150 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 8:32 AM
How do I get back into explorer shell after I install a lite step theme and it crashes the desktop?
I tried to use the task manager but it would not display....
If you know a secret then please share it with me...
Reply #151 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 9:06 AM
Ctrl/Shift/Esc.....kill litestep.exe in 'processes'...load c:\windows\explorer.exe in 'applications'.
That'll do it....
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Reply #155 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 12:02 PM
Has LS ever crashed so bad that it did'nt let you use the Control-Shift-Escape to open task manager. Cause I believe that was my case.
If I purchase Object Desktop I wont use LS. I just like the multiple desktop feature alot.
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Reply #158 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 5:38 PM
What if I had desktopX then could I do it.
Reply #159 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 6:12 PM
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Reply #160 Wednesday, September 8, 2004 6:16 PM
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Reply #141 Monday, September 6, 2004 2:35 PM
Ok, the object dock plus problem was my mistake. I simply fixed it from the options screen. "Unchecked show in task bar" Im surprised no one knew to tell me this IE.Jafo...lol
The problem I was having with IconX is stardocks problem!
Simply found from reading other threads.
The SPA 2 problem I was having is Microsoft's problem. Their update site will sometimes post updates that you already have, then when you try to reinstall an update, it says it failed, only it did'nt fail, you just already have it. I found that information while browsing Microsoft's update trouble shooter.
As for LS well im to scared to try it now that things are running smoothly again. Now im off to finish reinstalling my software.
Geez, I should have left well enough alone. Atleast now three days after trying to reformat my PC and use SPA2 I finally have my answers and am back on track. Time to see whats new in the downloads section of wincustomize.
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