Does Anyone Know.......
Saturday, June 12, 2004 by MGiff | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Does anyone know what this is? I know the translation but I can't determine the what, when, where or why of it.
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TYBSP
Reply #23 Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:34 PM
Reply #23 Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:34 PM
Got me there... Maybe a German rivet gun?????????? From Germany????????? or from a German from Germany?????????? 
Jafo
Reply #24 Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:35 PM
Reply #24 Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:35 PM
Why not German? They were a highly industrialized country pre WW2 with a lot of heavy industry...eg Krupps Engineering, etc.
OK, so these days the typical tool comes from Asia...but not back then...
yrag
Reply #25 Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:37 PM
...OK...let's try this one more time.............
Reply #25 Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:37 PM
| #7 by yrag - 6/12/2004 5:45:39 PM It's a Manufacturer's tag for a gear |
...OK...let's try this one more time.............
yrag
Reply #28 Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:58 PM
Reply #28 Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:58 PM
Because, even today German parts come with a tag and a wire seal attached to parts. Hirth, while making two stroke engines, was known early on for their wheel gear assemblies...
Ande
Reply #29 Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:18 AM
Reply #29 Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:18 AM
Mgiff, A very logical explanation I agree with. Now ask Yrag where your grandmother could have obtained it and why would she would keep it. 
yrag
Reply #30 Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:24 AM
Reply #30 Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:24 AM
It would have come off any part that was being used to rebuild a wheel assembly ....you just cut it off.....as to way she kept it would be a question for the ages......far above my mere mortal ablities...
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Ande
Reply #31 Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:32 AM
Reply #31 Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:32 AM
Not bad Yrag 
. Now lets get to the bottom on this. MGiff, did your Grandmother keep the tag in a little tin memento box? 
. Now lets get to the bottom on this. MGiff, did your Grandmother keep the tag in a little tin memento box? 
MGiff
Reply #33 Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:01 AM
Reply #33 Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:01 AM
It was in a cardboard box with some pictures, letters and french coins from the 1930's. I have to admit, we are a packratting family, a quality passed down through the ages. I'm beginning to think that maybe she cut it off a part in the factory where she worked and saved it, perhaps as a momento from that time in her life. I was a bit confused about the German part but I think that's been cleared up, it would not have been odd to see that back then, I don't guess. Thanks everyone for your input and,
yrag, whatcha mean about big bucks?? I've found several old tins!
yrag, whatcha mean about big bucks?? I've found several old tins!
yrag
Reply #34 Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:35 PM
Reply #34 Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:35 PM
Some 'Tins' (and some weren't even tin) where 'special runs' for certain product distribution. There would have been a limited amount made at the time and, of course, would be very rare today. Thus it's value. A good example would be when Milton Hershey started his Chocolate business, he sold some of his candy in Hand painted 'Decanters' Today, they are both extremely rare and valuable. If it's just a Tin can...well then that's all it is...a tin can. If, however, it's from a company and it appears to be a limited run (and no. there is no easy way to know)....turn it over and on the bottom will be the company's name and address and date. Check it out before you toss it or throw it in another storage bin..
IPlural
Reply #35 Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:31 PM
Reply #35 Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:31 PM
Jafo and Yrag pretty much hit the head
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MGiff
Reply #36 Sunday, June 13, 2004 6:14 PM
Reply #36 Sunday, June 13, 2004 6:14 PM
Yes they did and I appreciate it! Both of you have answered my question splendidly! 
Shut Up
Reply #37 Monday, June 14, 2004 2:35 PM
Reply #37 Monday, June 14, 2004 2:35 PM
some telephone poles have little "dog tags" on them. Mabye Germany does too?
MGiff
Reply #38 Monday, June 14, 2004 5:02 PM
Reply #38 Monday, June 14, 2004 5:02 PM
I didn't think of those! I don't think Hirth made telephone poles though!
Shameless Designs
Reply #39 Monday, June 14, 2004 6:06 PM
Reply #39 Monday, June 14, 2004 6:06 PM
The German word 'Werkzeug' translates to 'tool' in English. Tags like this are found quite commonly on tools made for industry, such as molds for injection molding or stamping dies for forming metal. The tags are usually attached to the tools because the tools are normally the property of the customer who is receiving the products made from the tool rather than the property of the factory who is using the tool to produce the part. Modern tags usually have a bit more information on them such as the date the tool was manufactured, a part number or product code for the part producd by the tool, the name of the toolmaker, etc. But the principle is the same in that the tag identifies who owns the tool and a number for accountability. Quite a few companies in the US made components for Hirth here in the US before and after WWII because it was cheaper to produce the parts in the US than to produce them in Germany and ship them over. I can't state for certain that this is the source of the tag, but that would be my best guess.
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Reply #21 Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:26 PM