Ridiculous Gas prices? I'll thank Bush.

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 by ToolWraith | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk



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Essencay
Reply #101 Monday, May 24, 2004 7:28 PM
Where do you put two adults, two kids and three 70-80lb dogs, when you need to take them somewhere?

Jafo
Reply #102 Monday, May 24, 2004 7:47 PM
On a train...

kona0197
Reply #103 Monday, May 24, 2004 8:25 PM
Just don''t understand what the need is for "bigger" when "average" does the job.
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Jafo
Reply #104 Monday, May 24, 2004 8:44 PM
Without 'bigger', average would be smaller.....it's just one of those math things...

kona0197
Reply #105 Monday, May 24, 2004 8:53 PM
No, it's one of those "My car is bigger than yours" things.

Jafo
Reply #106 Monday, May 24, 2004 9:01 PM
Yet one of my fave cars....one I'd like to own is an A-Class Merc....about as little as they get....just happens to be a good design [once they got over the Moose-test issue]...

XX
Reply #107 Monday, May 24, 2004 9:42 PM
How about ZERO pollution?

http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/aircar18_20040318.htm

Bit more info: http://www.theaircar.com/howitworks.html
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kona0197
Reply #108 Monday, May 24, 2004 10:04 PM
That will never happen. To many oil billionaires run the world.
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_footsie_
Reply #109 Tuesday, May 25, 2004 8:07 AM
Being a lil ole country gal I have to drive quite a ways to get anywhere...I have a jeep...hubby drives a mini van *uck ack I won't drive it haha...anyway...hmmm geeze I need more coffee...oh yeah...last week I paid $2.07 and did my once a week trip to town to pay bills and get groceries...I hear it's gone up again to around $2.20 or so...there are only 2 gas stations in town...I can't get very much gas...usually enough to get me home and have enough to get to town again next week...cripe...all the jobs are at least 40 miles away....and the pay scale they pay women up here is something from the dark ages....my lawnmower is thirsty....I gotta get a cow or something this is crazy

KarmaGirl
Reply #110 Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:59 AM

#107 by XX - 5/24/2004 9:42:47 PM
How about ZERO pollution?

Did you read the whole article?  For real use, it needs an air compressor which will require a motor which is run on fuel.  They somehow must be morons because they ended up only getting 94mpg with it in "real" world testing.

DesignCaddy, where do you live that you get a tax break for getting a hybrid?  Right now, the only practical hybrid (I say that because most people need more than two seats) is the Honda Civic.  But, for the cost, you only gain about 10mpg.  You would have to drive the car about 5 years before you break even on the extra cost of it. 

I think you will see a whole lot more hybrids in the next 4 years.  That and more diesel options.  The government gave funding to the car companies about 7 years ago, and they are putting pressure on them to show results.

I have this same discussion going over at JoeUser.com at: https://www.joeuser.com/forums.asp?MID=2&CMID=2&AID=16144#58872


paxx
Reply #111 Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:30 AM

Here in Canada, there are a couple of choices of hybrid cars, one of which is by Honda indeed (not the Civic, the one they sell here is called the Insight).  But they sell for about $10,000 more. I calculated once that I would have to own the car for 10 years to make my money back in gas savings.  But a few more hybrids are coming out this year (even a minivan), and more every year.  The prices will drop eventually.

As it has been said, don't blame the US economy for the price of oil in the US right now. The price increase is worldwide. It has nothing to do with Bush's poor performance within the US internally.  It may on the other hand have a lot to do with Bush's international policies - like, oh, I dunno, the war in Irak maybe...
Anyway, I'm not gonna go too much there. Let it just be said that I said over a year ago that the post-war would be very ugly.  I'm no Nostradamus, it was very predictable to anybody who has a little common sense. And it's only just started.  Expect oil prices to go up even more. Maybe double what it is today.


KarmaGirl
Reply #112 Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:42 AM

Paxx, we have the insight, too, but also have a Civic with a hybrid in it.  Luckily, the hybrid in the Civic doesn't make unreasonable priced.  But, it also doesn't get as good of mileage as the Insight.

 


XX
Reply #113 Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:20 PM
Yeah. They also have a pure air-powered car too. I want that pure air-powered car, since I never go very far anywhere anyway, just enough to get to college and back.

kona0197
Reply #114 Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:23 PM
They also have cars that run off of Laundry Soap. So go figure....

DesignCaddy
Reply #115 Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:38 AM
karma, around here (pennsylvania) i''ve only seen a few hybrids, but someone in my office has one and mentioned she is taxed less from the us gov on the car, as a clean air tax break or something of that sort for going with the hybrid car, to help offset the cost of investing in the new technology and as a reward for being enviromentally friendly. i''ve been told the same is true in california where said cars are much more abundant.

now something that really ticks me off.. adversely, you are supposed to be taxed extra when you buy a large vehicle like an suv or truck with bad gas milage, as a penalty.. but hummers, excursions, navigators, are EXEMPT from that penalty. so what the hell is the point of having the tax to begin with, if the worst milaged vehicles are worse then the ones they are taxing?

money talks, not the enviroment. but this girl''s told me wonderful things about her little car. has good pickup, and you don''t even hear the thing run. we found out it''s even softball resistant..


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ToolWraith
Reply #116 Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:54 PM
Anyone hear about the up and coming Hydrogen Feul Cell Cars? 0 pollution and over 100 miles to the gallon!! only draw back? no more sweet roaring of your roadster...or in my case, an 11 yr old Honda Civic with about 200,000 miles on it.

IPlural
Reply #117 Thursday, May 27, 2004 7:55 PM
200k ?

That ain't roaring, thats collapsed lifters!

I won't get rid of my truck and it is not an SUV, there is nothing sporty about a 4x4 Saburban...

I've a 280 zx, a Camry also, but would love to have a Hybrid and also a GSXR 750

Jafo
Reply #118 Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:14 PM

DC...if the US taxing is anything like the moronic Oz regulations then these over-size 'Toorak Tractors' [we call the 4WDs] are classified as commercial vehicles and have discounted registration as they not 'passenger vehicles - private'.

It stinks because their truck tyres also do more damage to the road surface, other cars, and pedestrians and should be penalized for that alone, irrespective of their gas-guzzling prowess...

 

BTW...'Toorak Tractor'.....Toorak is an upper class twit suburb of Melbourne...and the Range Rovers there are for mum to pick up the kids from the Private schools 500 yards away.....they NEVER venture onto unsealed roads....EVER.


DesignCaddy
Reply #119 Friday, May 28, 2004 3:03 PM
classified as commercial vehicles.. that would be the loophole.. and like everything else, they aren't used for their stated purpose. i've never seen an suv commercial where they show little chicks driving haphazardly around tiny city streets and taking up two parking slots in garages.. they're all offroading and 4x4ing.

XtecaX
Reply #120 Sunday, May 30, 2004 5:03 PM
From Baghdad, you can think or say what you want,especially if you live in a free country. Regardless of the opinions of the politicians and that includes my Commander in Chief, the people of Iraq needed to be freed from the tyrant Saadam. Imagine how life for you would be if you had to live in a garbage dump while the tyrant builds palaces all around you, the children running around in pools of waste without shoes, the men seem to have forgotten what it is to have a soul and I could keep this up for days about being born a female here. No, if all you have to worry about is the rising price of gasoline, consider yourself lucky.



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