Help out your friendly neighborhood Hus...
Tuesday, May 11, 2004 by Hus | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
...by pointing him in the direction of a taskbar replacement for Windows 2000. See, his XP broke, now he's on Win2k [again]...and can't stand the plain-jane taskbar. 
Anyone have any suggestions besides ObjectBar and Litestep?
Anyone have any suggestions besides ObjectBar and Litestep?
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Hus
Reply #42 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:07 PM
Reply #42 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:07 PM
Well, you''re right about it crashing with any number of programs, it''s not partial to Winamp. So, I tried what you said, but I can''t load the event viewer, tells me that the event log is corrupt. (That feature was already checked, so I just loaded the Event viewer...)
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yrag
Reply #43 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:13 PM
Reply #43 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:13 PM
Sorry, Hus....got way-laid by the 'EX'.
A corrupt 'Event Log'....uh-oh....maybe you did break XP
Is this a new install of XP?
A corrupt 'Event Log'....uh-oh....maybe you did break XP
Is this a new install of XP?
Ande
Reply #44 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:18 PM
Reply #44 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:18 PM
Yrag, serious question, how can you break XP ??
Ande following everything closely compiling his own book.
Ande following everything closely compiling his own book.
yrag
Reply #45 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:21 PM
Reply #45 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:21 PM
I don't know....Hus said in his first or second post that he had broken XP. Maybe he'll share his insight into how one does that so we can all do it... 
Hus
Reply #46 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:26 PM
Reply #46 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:26 PM
Nope, a new install is my hope for fixing this whole thing. I just wanna know a couple things though, if it''s not a bad HD, could be another piece of hardware? Else, a new HD and fresh install is the easiest cure?
If it can''t be another hardware problem, I''m just gonna buy a new drive...
Oh, and to break XP is not an easy thing ya know..., first you have to stupidly have a dual boot setup, and use XP on the D:\ drive to confuse any applications that you might install, it helps. Then you need to install Redhat Linux...just to see if you can do it and never use it, then just install, uninstall, reinstall, overwrite and a bunch of programs, download stuff you don''t need, and repeatedly experiment with beta software till you get pink boxes in SDC SmartStartup, and somehow all that breaks CursorXP after a while. Then the "I don''t care if you''re busy, the screen is going black, NOW!" crashes start to happen at random, just when you least expect it. After that, there''s no tuning back...
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If it can''t be another hardware problem, I''m just gonna buy a new drive...
Oh, and to break XP is not an easy thing ya know..., first you have to stupidly have a dual boot setup, and use XP on the D:\ drive to confuse any applications that you might install, it helps. Then you need to install Redhat Linux...just to see if you can do it and never use it, then just install, uninstall, reinstall, overwrite and a bunch of programs, download stuff you don''t need, and repeatedly experiment with beta software till you get pink boxes in SDC SmartStartup, and somehow all that breaks CursorXP after a while. Then the "I don''t care if you''re busy, the screen is going black, NOW!" crashes start to happen at random, just when you least expect it. After that, there''s no tuning back...
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yrag
Reply #48 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:37 PM
Reply #48 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:37 PM
My honest opinion is that it is not a HD problem...the one thing that would have caused a problem that you are experiencing would have been caused by corrupt drivers (thus the load of the new graphics drivers)and the fact that 'Event Viewer' is also corrupt. I don't like the part about your screen going black....so I am concerned there might be a hardware problem, but I don't think so. I would try a fresh install and I think you'll be good to go (if not,then get a new drive). Try one thing first...run 'Defrag' on the main drive and see what it does.
yrag
Reply #49 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:41 PM
...that wasn't a good thing to leave out
...although I have to admit it's a great tutorial on porkin' a 'puter
Are these separate drives or partitions?
Reply #49 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:41 PM
| Oh, and to break XP is not an easy thing ya know..., first you have to stupidly have a dual boot setup, and use XP on the D:\ drive |
...that wasn't a good thing to leave out
...although I have to admit it's a great tutorial on porkin' a 'puter
Are these separate drives or partitions?
Hus
Reply #50 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:57 PM
Reply #50 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:57 PM
I have 3 partitions, C:\ is win2k (now dead thanks to China ), D:\ is XP Pro, and Z:\ is Linux. 
Gary, I'm not gonna try and salvage this drive if I'm gonna do a fresh install. I'd rather just buy a new one, they're cheap anyways...$65 for a WD 80GB, more than I got now. I was planning on doing this from the start, I started this thread because I thought Win2k was a bit more stable to get me through until I got the new drive, and I honestly wanted a new taskbar replacement. Although that's not possible anymore...I'll just ride it out for the week, I'll order it on Friday, and go from there.
), D:\ is XP Pro, and Z:\ is Linux. 
Gary, I'm not gonna try and salvage this drive if I'm gonna do a fresh install. I'd rather just buy a new one, they're cheap anyways...$65 for a WD 80GB, more than I got now. I was planning on doing this from the start, I started this thread because I thought Win2k was a bit more stable to get me through until I got the new drive, and I honestly wanted a new taskbar replacement. Although that's not possible anymore...I'll just ride it out for the week, I'll order it on Friday, and go from there.
yrag
Reply #51 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:02 AM
...ain't that the truth
Go for the drive and for all intends and purposes you should be fine with the partition setup. I think you diagnosed your own problem when you listed everything you have done over time and I think it just (for what ever reason) went south. I know if someone did that to me, that's what I'd do
Reply #51 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:02 AM
| (now dead thanks to China |
...ain't that the truth
Go for the drive and for all intends and purposes you should be fine with the partition setup. I think you diagnosed your own problem when you listed everything you have done over time and I think it just (for what ever reason) went south. I know if someone did that to me, that's what I'd do
Hus
Reply #55 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:13 AM
Reply #55 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:13 AM
Yeah, I do this to every computer I own, after a while, they just get so bogged down, things start to break. It happened to my last computer, it happened to my work computer...so I'm pretty used to it. One of the dev guys that used to work for us, had the same problem...so atleast I know it's not just me. I personally think it's the computer industry secretly coding the drives to break after a while so you buy a new bigger and better one. IT'S A CONSPIRACY DAMN IT!!
I hope people that read this learn from my mistake. The more crap you collect...the bigger the pile of s**t you end up with...
I hope people that read this learn from my mistake. The more crap you collect...the bigger the pile of s**t you end up with...
yrag
Reply #56 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:16 AM
...Hus, I think you nailed it..
Reply #56 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:16 AM
| IT'S A CONSPIRACY DAMN IT!! |
...Hus, I think you nailed it..
Hus
Reply #57 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:21 AM
Reply #57 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:21 AM
Where is China anyways? Surely she would of been pokin' fun at us by now...
DesignCaddy
Reply #59 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:52 AM
Reply #59 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:52 AM
if it were something as simple as a bad sector, windows should crash every time you do a spacific operation, every time. since it seems to be failing over random lengths of time, if harddrive maybe its failing? but.. still, its strange..
Ande
Reply #60 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:36 AM
Oh your brave Gary
Reply #60 Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:36 AM
| ...she's probably workin' on downsizing her butt |
Oh your brave Gary
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Reply #41 Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:50 PM
It could be (although it wouldn't be the most likely source of the problem) a bad sector on the HD that when you try to access it, it crashes the system. My guess is, it just doesn't happen when you load Winamp, but happens with any number of programs. Go to Control Panel/Advanced/Startup and Recovery/System Failure. Check only 'Write an event to System Log'. Force a crash and then look in Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Event Viewer' and tell me what it says.