Hey, does anybody know who started the 'compact start menu' thing?

Tuesday, April 6, 2004 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Thanks I am trying to write a article. Although, maybe it will be to long if I include this... I know I'll just make it a side note... but a important side note.
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joetheblow
Reply #21 Wednesday, April 7, 2004 6:01 PM
How you do that?

joetheblow goes and breaks into the skin code

Z71
Reply #22 Wednesday, April 7, 2004 6:06 PM
CJD, if there was a way to get rid of the logoff and shutdown words, and if you had a really short name, you could have a startmenu that's only 1" wide.

Also, I'm working on a way to make the startmenu for the bottom (righthand) side. And before you say it can't be done, I've done it. Just have to work out a few kinks.
It's close thought. I'm hoping to enter it in the GUIO's if I can get it figured.
Essencay
Reply #23 Wednesday, April 7, 2004 6:26 PM
sub 10Kb


Wow......

So Far I've got my SkinnyBop skin down from 258k to 49k

Essencay looks for more ways to trim that fat

CerebroJD....That's a pretty cool compact menu
CerebroJD
Reply #24 Wednesday, April 7, 2004 6:34 PM
startmenu for the bottom (righthand) side.


Ooh, I was tryin to figure that out too. Hope you succeed. I cant get it.

Thanks for the compliments guys! Feel free to check out how I did it. I just tweaked some margins and sizes.

Hint: Comments on my skins are always welcome
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Sput
Reply #25 Wednesday, April 7, 2004 7:36 PM
CerebroJD - I'd spotted that alternative compact menu of yours on the GUIO and I've been meaning to check it out, you slippery ingenious devil you. -and ASCII skins sounds like a good idea for a theme...it could be based on the look of an old green screen monitor, and use faked text characters to make up the windows etc....it's crazy, but it just might work

Like Z71, I've also been looking to find a way to get rid of the Logout/shutdown text on the start menu too as it would be nice to have complete control of how they appear.

Also...does anyone know how to force the "undock" option to appear to test things without having a suitable laptop set up to test it on?

joetheblow
Reply #26 Wednesday, April 7, 2004 8:29 PM
ASCII skins?

I don't get it.... 8 bit bitmap images?
CerebroJD
Reply #27 Wednesday, April 7, 2004 9:30 PM
Sput: I just did it because I could never remember the order of the icons on the right side, but thought the program icons were distinctive enough not to need the text. I thought I remembered seeing something somewhere about showing the Undock icon, but I dont remember where.


JtB: Using text and stuff in images to represent window borders. Y'know, like they had back in the green and orange screen days?
Sput
Reply #28 Wednesday, April 7, 2004 10:02 PM
ASCII windows, sort of like this (this will look wrong because it's not a fixed space font):

/====================\
¦.Window Title Bar..............¦
=====================
¦ Window body here..........¦
¦................................................¦
L__________________/


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Sput
Reply #29 Wednesday, April 7, 2004 10:07 PM
BTW - not that anyone would be interested, but one of my first ever jobs (after working in a soap factory) was writing a tutorial program to go with some software for a company - and a key bit of that was writing routines to draw windows using ASCII characters, including different borders and colours, and animated popping up and vanishing in various ways
Tiggz
Reply #30 Thursday, April 8, 2004 12:38 AM
When I first saw a compact menu....I said to myself...."Self, why, if there are compact menu's hasn't anyone made one with no user icon or user title?" So I did for the skin I entered in the GUIOlympics. I don't know if that has been done before or not, and I labeled it an ultra-compact menu


https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=1&SkinID=3614

NightTrainthedark
Reply #31 Thursday, April 8, 2004 5:43 AM
I uploaded a skin a while ago that had no user icon or user title. https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=1&SkinID=4036. It was rejected from the GUIO. I hope you have better sucess.
Essencay
Reply #32 Thursday, April 8, 2004 11:48 AM
Yep Tiggz....You got NightTrain and I beat on that one I've had your skin downloaded on my computer for a while...didn't think nothing of the compact menu. That's the problem with the WB Configuration Preview....it only shows the window frame, not the startmenu.

Essencay applies Tiggz' skin to see how he did it on his
Essencay
Reply #33 Thursday, April 8, 2004 11:53 AM
Tiggz....Really nice skin....easy to see why it's rated so high
Essencay
Reply #34 Thursday, April 8, 2004 11:58 AM
-500 content margin Tiggz pushes the user icon and text off into the next county
CerebroJD
Reply #35 Thursday, April 8, 2004 11:59 AM
I just figured out how to get rid of the Log Off and Shut Down buttons. Problem is, now I cant Log Off or Shut Down. I'm trying to make the text size 1 and the same colour as the area behind it, but its not workin for me.
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Essencay
Reply #36 Thursday, April 8, 2004 12:04 PM
I cant Log Off or Shut Down.


CerebroJD
Reply #37 Thursday, April 8, 2004 12:06 PM
It looks really cool though!
Essencay
Reply #38 Thursday, April 8, 2004 12:07 PM
I know you can define a font for the BottomBar, but it doesn't seem to affect the LogOff/ShutDown text....which is weird, because there is no other text on the BottomBar to change. If you can figure out how to change the font....change it to one with no characters in it and then you don't have to worry about making the text the same color.
CerebroJD
Reply #39 Thursday, April 8, 2004 12:12 PM
I can change the font colour, but not the size or actual font. So now I just have a big gap in between the buttons that says "Log Off" when I mouse over it. I can get rid of the "Shut Down" text with content margin tweaking, but I cant do it with the Log Off one. Seems to be an interesting problem.
Essencay
Reply #40 Thursday, April 8, 2004 12:17 PM
I hope you figure it out I'm off to work on my 4-bit WBSkin

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