Yrag.....IPlural...... Anyone!!! I need computer help
Sunday, February 15, 2004 by BoXXi | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
HI Guys...... here's the story..... I just got my spare computer back from a friends house....I loaned it to him for a while.... It's apparently been working o.k., but when I got it home this is what happened: connected everything up ....no problems.... but when I turn it on, there is a little bit of disk activity, but then nothing....the monitor doesn't even come out of standby and NOTHING appears on the screen. Anybody have any idea why it isn't even attempting to boot? its a PII 233Mhz with 320mb ram matrox video card and a 3.2GB hard drive.
If any one has any ideas I would be grateful......Thank you. 
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Reply #22 Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:50 PM
Bryan....how long was it unplugged in transit?
Cmos is probably discharged if the system is old - battery old.
Does it give an audible post? If so, what beeps?
Next issue is loose components...ram being a good one to prevent things happening, as too does the vid card.
Reseat all of them.
Extreme temp and humidity fluctuations won't help either....potential for moisture, etc.
Recheck all cable connections....including possible Monitor pins bending.
Heck.....look for impact damage on the case....box could have been dropped and you now have a broken MB.....[not all that silly]...
Reply #23 Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:54 PM
BTW: you're absolutely right about using stuff from the new computer to test this one. If it's a short in the one not working it could blow out anything you put in it....including any 'borrowed' stuff.
Reply #24 Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:59 PM
| by BoXXi - 2/15/2004 2:08:17 PM but when I got it home this is what happened: connected everything up |
What do you mean by this? Did you just plug the monitor in and PS cable then fire it up? Or did you reconnect anything inside the case? No new hardware added? Usually, like yrag mentioned, the memory is the cause. Have you heard any BIOS beep codes? That would let you know if there is a hardware problem. Make sure the CPU and heatsink are seated proerly and reseat your video card; something may of came loose during the shift to your house. Take a look inside to make sure everything is in order, especially the mobo.
Reply #25 Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:59 PM
Oh, yes...as yrag said [and I forgot]...DON'T spread the potential for disaster by canabalising your 'good' comp to see if you can sort the old one.
Never do that....
Reply #27 Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:15 PM
Not sure if lightning can cause the same effect as I had but still
.I was trying to get forecasts in morse code. I connected some stuff up to my sound card and it blew it up. My soundcard was onboar on my MB and appearantly it also killed the processor with that.
Reply #28 Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:49 PM
1. what Make/Model motherboard?
2. do the CPU and PSU fans kick on as they should when you turn the power on, even older systems had safety features which tripped the PSU off at certain tempatures?
3. unplug the drive and see if it makes it past posting and actually trys to boot the OS. If so, it is a drive/interface issue of some sort.
4. have you made sure that none of the Pins on the Monitors (captive) VGA cable got bent and folded over by accident when you hooked the monitor back up? If so, you can bend it(them) back, but do it slowly by reversing each of the bends in the pin starting at the bottom inside where the pin comes out of the cable. Slowly bent it over as much as you can without pushing the top (end) of the pin into other pins or the side of the connector. Then slowly bend the top kink out so it is straight, then bend the remainder of kink out of the lower end of the pin, then make sure the pin is straight so it will seat correctly.
Really would like to know the Make/model of the motherboard as this would allow searching for the manual on the net which would allow those helping to better understand the hardware being used. Touble shooting a all in one motherboard is a little different than trouble shooting a motherboard with all the perphials on seperate cards.
Reply #29 Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:02 PM
| 4. have you made sure that none of the Pins on the Monitors (captive) VGA cable got bent and folded over by accident when you hooked the monitor back up? |
Bit slow there...
Reply #30 Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:09 PM
yeah I noticed now that you pointed it out.To many rods in the fire at this point anyway or peoples be stepping over each others feet, soooo into lurk mode for me
WOuld be interested to know if it has intergrated sound, video and drives. If is does, and the biscuit is dead or dying. Then the on-board might be initialized again even with the ATI installed which would cause soemthing like this also...
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Reply #31 Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:28 PM
| #9 by BoXXi - 2/15/2004 2:27:08 PM tried the monitor from this system..... no joy |
yrag... from this I get that he tried the monitor from the system that works on the system that is not working, the opposite of what you imply by your post in #23...
Reply #32 Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:40 PM
That actually is good news 'cause I couldn't understand why the old monitor didn't work on the new system. Be that as it may, I still think it's nothing more then a loose 'screw' somewhere and once he finds it, he'll be good to go.........and the saga continues
Reply #33 Monday, February 16, 2004 1:08 AM
Hi guys...... just got in from work...... The system doesn't make ANY beeping sounds when I turn it on. can a dead CMOS battery stop a puter from booting???!!! I have re-seated the ram, the video card, and the processor. All fans are working. I didn't see any loose wires, but I will check further when I wake up. (been working all night....6am now.....tired)
P.S. I'm CERTAIN it used to beep once when I turned it on. (oh, and the computer is around 6 or 7 years old, and never had a new battery)
Thanks for the help guys, you lot are brilliant and I really appreciate it. (there is quite a bit of stuff on this system that I don't want to lose, so I would love to see it working again)
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Reply #35 Monday, February 16, 2004 1:21 AM
. Those are not jumperless...so look (use the manual, if you have one) for any missing jumpers (I don't think that's the problem tho). That battery is well pass it's prime and if I had to guess (particularly since you're getting no beep), I would say that's the problem. When the machine was off for an extended time it would have killed what little life it had left. Replace it and when (hopefully) it boots go right in to the Bios 'cause changing the battery will clear it. BTW: one beep at boot is what you should hear. Good luck.
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Reply #21 Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:04 PM
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